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Where can I find a reliable source to learn about history?
posted 4 years ago by GodblessKYLE 4 years ago by GodblessKYLE +10 / -0

Please explain how the source is reliable.

Pre-2020 I knew a source was reliable because there was a method of verification such as licensure etc. Now doctors lie, news lies, teachers lie, pastors lie etc

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– clemaneuverers 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The book "Forbidden Archeology" contains a lot of neglected evidence of human history. Probably more ancient than you mean, but a very valuable resource all the same.

PDF source here:

http://libgen.rs/search.php?req=forbidden+archeology&lg_topic=libgen&open=0&view=simple&res=25&phrase=1&column=def

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– GodblessKYLE [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

great thank you!

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– MediaMadeMe 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I started acquiring old encyclopedias from eBay. Quite interesting stuff. One I am excited about is arriving tomorrow, will probably make a post.

Look for original pre-1890 prints. According to what Quigley says about the last iteration of their plans, they started then.

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– KiloRomeo 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It’s worth mentioning the difference between history and archeology. Archaeology is the evidence itself. History is the most likely, internally constant narrative given the evidence (at least imo).

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– jack4455667788 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Please explain how the source is reliable.

Lol. The cursed mantra of the historian (or reporter, or student) - or it would be, if they were doing it right!

Pre-2020 I knew a source was reliable because there was a method of verification

Nothing has changed. Abject appeal to authority, credential worship and the general belief in the mere possibility of "trustworthy" sources that never require validation are every bit as anti-intellectual and embarrassing now as they ever were before. They are the hallmarks of poor/incompetent students, typically created through conditioning by rote under the guise of education. I know because teacher told me so.

The methods of validation haven't changed much either, and the most reliable dating tools in archeology (for instance) continue to be coinage (often has the date printed on it :) and pottery, going on more than a century now.

History is tricky business, and the one thing we can be certain of is - it's doctored. My view is that the best history comes from first hand accounts, preferably from someone you know and have good reason to trust, and who was making thorough recordings at the time of the historical event (diaries, dated letters, wax cylinders!!! etc.). That is about as good as history CAN ever get, in terms of "verification".

Beyond "the most reliable" history mentioned above, you are in the world of unverified/unverifiable anecdote - typically state/nation/kingdom sanctioned (and most often penned as well) - and generally designed to inform and place implicit philosophical bounds upon the "reasonable" hopes and expectations for the future within a "society" of the consuming citizen.

History, when done properly, is largely a compilation of crimes/atrocities. However, most of the criminals and tyrants wish to be remembered/immortalized as heroes/gods/kings. One of the best ways to determine who committed the crimes, is to determine who most benefited (cui bono)... 9 times out of 10 it is those criminals and tyrants whom history remembers as kings and heroes.

My advice when dealing with unverified/unverifiable anecdote (largely, history) is to treat it as a story and to try and read between the lines. The truth can't usually be entirely buried, and evidence of those crimes still remain to be found if you are diligent and demand validation (aka being skeptical).

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

History is tricky business, and the one thing we can be certain of is - it's doctored.

Completely agree with everything. There are no any reliable history sources. Even compilation of first hand accounts could be a complete mess.

You could occasionally find a grains of truth, but you hardly will get complete picture you could name "history".

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– SmahtPoloc 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

If you're looking for American history, Hillsdale college offers a lot of free online courses that are well done.

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– DZP1 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

I am a professor of symbology at Harvard, and I attest it is tough to get in. However, I had the help of Jesus's daughter.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0
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– DZP1 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Some dumb thing called the Holy Grail. But it was just a French chick. Also there was an albino killer monk.

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– Tychonaut 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Also there was an albino killer monk.

Seems like a strange specialty. Did he just really dislike albinos?

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– DZP1 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Now that is an interplanetary question, which I believe came from Uranus.

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– jack4455667788 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Jesus's daughter.

You mean the legendary run-around sue?!

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– DZP1 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Well, a good start for general framework is the Durants' The Story of Civilization, a multi-volume series done by era. It is out of copyright and the volumes are here: https://archive.org/details/TheStoryOfCivilizationcomplete

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– California00 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you 💙

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– KrakenWakin4JoeBacon 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Too often, not even evidence can be trusted. How to go about learning actual history… it’s quite a predicament.

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– BladesLastBottle -1 points 4 years ago +1 / -2

iv been digging into ancient history 13 000BC type of thing, but as far as more recent history im not sure. how far back are you looking for?

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– GodblessKYLE [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I’m thinking start of the church because from my view of the world there is really only two groups of people in any given conflict.

why 13,000 BC?

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– BladesLastBottle 0 points 4 years ago +2 / -2

right around 15 000 years ago we had a global event that melted the northern glaciers and increased the sea level by 120-140 meters. its called the Bølling-Allerød warming. theres alot of things about this time that make me think this was a monumental historic event for humans and its not really explored by main stream science

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