Do you concede that, because the Soviets also put a retroreflector on the moon, it does not follow that retroreflectors are sufficient evidence that we put men on the moon? So far, other than that you have provided nothing but theory. You need extraordinary evidence to back up your extraordinary claim. The time to believe something is AFTER sufficient evidence has been supplied for it. You're asking me to prove a negative which is not logically possible. I'm asking you to defend your extraordinary claim. Sorry, the word of disgraced president Richard Nixon, 12 astronauts (who also claim there are aliens), and that blurry video is not enough.
Here are the absolute highest res images NASA provides of the moon landing sites. Do you really think you couldn't make these in Microsoft paint? Actually, it looks like they just put labels and arrows next to random naturally occurring craters: https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/revisited/index.html
If they have higher res images, why not share them? NaTiOnAl SeCuRiTy ReAsOnS? Furthermore, what would be the purpose of hiding them from the public until long after Photoshop is perfected?
And that's your final piece of evidence debunked. Again, it's okay to admit you were tricked. Hey man, I get it. It took me months and months to come to terms with the fact that I bought the deep state's bullshit hook, line, and sinker just like you for the first 30 years of my existence. Just like you, I fought against reality tooth and nail. But after I calmed down I accepted the fact that Nixon faked the moon landing and that's okay because he had to in order to beat communism.
PS: what do you make of the info OP posted i.e. NASA claims to no longer have the ability to go to the moon? Do you think they accidentally deleted all the design documents that led to the "crowning technological achievement of humanity" like a bunch of bumbling buffoons? Or is the more parsimonious explanation that they never had that ability to begin with? I won the lottery btw, but I lost the ticket! Can't prove that I didn't ;)
You've debunked nothing because you haven't presented anything but opinions and speculation. I'm still the only one that's posted even a fucking delta-V value in this thread...and it supported my argument.
The burden of proof is on the person making the extraordinary claim. Putting men on the moon and getting them back is such an extraordinary claim, no country not even America has come anywhere close to doing so in 50 years, despite technology getting simultaneously more advanced and cheaper. I have presented evidence; the evidence supplied by NASA itself which is insufficient for any unbiased researcher. The evidence you have supplied is even worse than that.
...and random naturally occurring footpaths, and random naturally occurring objects that just happen to look like the body plan of a Apollo LM.
Randomly naturally occuring sites that just happen to look like sketches from the Apollo records.
Oh, my sweet summer child... they sketched the pictures based on the naturally occurring sites. It didn't happen the other way around. WhOa how could they have possibly obtained the resources to pull that one off? lol that's sarcasm in case you couldn't tell.
No, they just got rid of all the smart white people and filled the org with diversity hires and climate fairies.
Now I see you're trying to deflect this into something about race? Is that really rational? Listen, you're clearly getting upset, just like I was, so I think it's best for now that I let you sit and chew on the world-shattering information I provided. I genuinely can empathize though. It took me over half a fucking year to work through this emotionally. I'll be the first to admit I behaved as irrationally as you are right now:
"ME? Wrong about something so big for so long? POPPYCOCK! It is THEY the CoNsPiRaCy ThEoRiStS who are wrong. I can solve differential equations! Can THEY? NO! Therefore I AM RIGHT!!!"
Even if it takes you a year to admit that you don't have a good reason to believe the US government put men on the moon in 1969, that's still better than most people. You never have to explicitly concede defeat to me, but going forward remember that there is no real need for you to maintain the lie to everyone else. Perhaps you could try doing some investigating on your own instead of relying on youtube videos, hm?
Do you concede that, because the Soviets also put a retroreflector on the moon, it does not follow that retroreflectors are sufficient evidence that we put men on the moon? So far, other than that you have provided nothing but theory. You need extraordinary evidence to back up your extraordinary claim. The time to believe something is AFTER sufficient evidence has been supplied for it. You're asking me to prove a negative which is not logically possible. I'm asking you to defend your extraordinary claim. Sorry, the word of disgraced president Richard Nixon, 12 astronauts (who also claim there are aliens), and that blurry video is not enough.
Here are the absolute highest res images NASA provides of the moon landing sites. Do you really think you couldn't make these in Microsoft paint? Actually, it looks like they just put labels and arrows next to random naturally occurring craters: https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/revisited/index.html
If they have higher res images, why not share them? NaTiOnAl SeCuRiTy ReAsOnS? Furthermore, what would be the purpose of hiding them from the public until long after Photoshop is perfected?
And that's your final piece of evidence debunked. Again, it's okay to admit you were tricked. Hey man, I get it. It took me months and months to come to terms with the fact that I bought the deep state's bullshit hook, line, and sinker just like you for the first 30 years of my existence. Just like you, I fought against reality tooth and nail. But after I calmed down I accepted the fact that Nixon faked the moon landing and that's okay because he had to in order to beat communism.
PS: what do you make of the info OP posted i.e. NASA claims to no longer have the ability to go to the moon? Do you think they accidentally deleted all the design documents that led to the "crowning technological achievement of humanity" like a bunch of bumbling buffoons? Or is the more parsimonious explanation that they never had that ability to begin with? I won the lottery btw, but I lost the ticket! Can't prove that I didn't ;)
The burden of proof is on the person making the extraordinary claim. Putting men on the moon and getting them back is such an extraordinary claim, no country not even America has come anywhere close to doing so in 50 years, despite technology getting simultaneously more advanced and cheaper. I have presented evidence; the evidence supplied by NASA itself which is insufficient for any unbiased researcher. The evidence you have supplied is even worse than that.
Is this evidence that there is a man's face on the surface of Mars? https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2107/MartianFace_Viking_960.jpg No? But it looks exactly like a face!
Oh, my sweet summer child... they sketched the pictures based on the naturally occurring sites. It didn't happen the other way around. WhOa how could they have possibly obtained the resources to pull that one off? lol that's sarcasm in case you couldn't tell.
Now I see you're trying to deflect this into something about race? Is that really rational? Listen, you're clearly getting upset, just like I was, so I think it's best for now that I let you sit and chew on the world-shattering information I provided. I genuinely can empathize though. It took me over half a fucking year to work through this emotionally. I'll be the first to admit I behaved as irrationally as you are right now:
Even if it takes you a year to admit that you don't have a good reason to believe the US government put men on the moon in 1969, that's still better than most people. You never have to explicitly concede defeat to me, but going forward remember that there is no real need for you to maintain the lie to everyone else. Perhaps you could try doing some investigating on your own instead of relying on youtube videos, hm?