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posted 4 years ago by BarronTimeTraveler 4 years ago by BarronTimeTraveler +8 / -4
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– Allas8 6 points 4 years ago +7 / -1

Should be called blimp force, as it is made up off balloons and drones.

Satellite TV and GPS are both ground base for any one wondering.

You can actually bounce radio signals off the firmament, as it seem like it is reflective, like water. You lose a lot of signal strenghet if you do though.

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– Geek-the-Mage -1 points 4 years ago +2 / -3

The international space station has been photographed "flying" in front of the moon at incredible speed by amateur photographers. How does it keep circling up there and never run out of fuel? Spherical Earthers can explain it with gravitation.

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– FortheGenerations 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

Never heard of the lasers that can project light/images into the sodium layer? It's called a sodium layer laser guide star adaptive optics system. This system was created in 1997. ISS "launched" in 1998.. it's an artificial projected image into the sodium layer

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– Geek-the-Mage 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I understand that, but someone who believes in flat earth wouldn't believe it's orbiting a sphere, but flying in a circle around the sky, which would take fuel. They defeated me, though... by saying it's a hologram.

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– esperhunter 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I like to also ask them their thoughts on satellites

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– FortheGenerations 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Shooting stars are an electrical phenomenon.

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– GodAndGlory 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I dk where I stand.

But they don't say the firmament is a hard shell. They suspect it's more a field of charged particles (the Van Allen radiation belt). Possibly in relation to earth's magnetic torus field.

Side note: every person has a small magnetic field around them, a torus field. That's why we have a torso. Some people can see this, it's what creates our aura. The earth has its own magnetic field as well, hence why it has its auroras

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– FortheGenerations 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It's called LORAN. There's absolutely no way this system can function on anything but a flat earth either. https://youtu.be/up_TQor_yuk

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– mvrak 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

Prequel for a staged invasion? Still says nothing about the earth.

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– Tyrant597 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

If they had any genuine thoughts, they wouldn't be flat earthers.

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– Gaunt -2 points 4 years ago +1 / -3

Or, you know, just explain sunsets and time zones. Together they form pretty absolute proof of a sphere.

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– GodAndGlory 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Hey mate, you haven't researched the flat earth model because they definitely have an explanation.

The sun moves in a circle around the north pole. For sunsets it is disappearing from our vision (optical horizon, atmosphere blockage, etc)

Their rebuttal question would be: Why are there so many videos where the sun gets smaller as it sets? Is that possible on a globe?

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– Gaunt -2 points 4 years ago +1 / -3

Except the sun DOESNT ‘disappear from our vision’. It visibly sets below the horizon. You can watch it do so every night.

It doesn’t fade and gets smaller and feed her and then disappear in the distance, it sets below the horizon.

Now combine that fact with time zones. I can FaceTime a friend of mine further west and see that for him the sun is still up and has not yet set below the horizon while for me it has.

Obviously, demonstrably a sphere.

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– Poopybuttboy 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

This is not an example of something that debunks the flat earth model. The same scenario you described would happen in their model also.

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– GodAndGlory 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Brother, your examples will happen on a flat and globe earth model. You're arguing with what you "see", without understanding a basic principles of distance, that as something gets further and further away it merges into the horizon (in our 2D field of view)

  1. Just because something "visibly" does something doesn't mean that it does. As things get further and further away, all things converge towards the horizon, until our eyes cannot see anymore. Look down a long street, the tops of houses will converge into the horizon, as well as the bases of lamp posts.

Pro-Tip: A powerful telescope would bring those houses back into view, even the ones that should be hidden by the "curvature of the earth".

  1. Again time zones work in a flat earth model. The sun is just at a location where it is now closer to your friend than you.
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– Gaunt -1 points 4 years ago +1 / -2

Time zones were created to represent the fact that the further west you go the later the sunsets, exactly as it would on a sphere.

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– Allas8 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Except in the north, where there is no sunset during summer, so they had to make up a tilt to the spinning space ball. The same thing is supposed to happen on the southern hemisphere in winter, if you yourself try and go on one of these "Antarctic" cruise in December you might notice that the it gets dark outside during night, so no midnight sun, no tilt.

There is also Solar Analemma. If you start tracking the sun position on the sky at the same time of day every day, you might notice that the spinning space ball make no sense, so they had to make up a wobble, apparently the earth wobbles, as that is how they explain the Solar Analemma.

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– WindyJibbz 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Even in northern Canada at night during the summer you can watch the glow in the sky from the sun after it sets travel northward and by 3am the glow gets strong to the North East and starts to rise from the north east back for the day.

You can learn so much about the world by watching it, sadly no one really seems to do that anymore, there is probably a YT video of a sunsrise instead.

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