Initially I rolled my eyes at all of your posts.
Curiously, I didn't see people disputing your points... just saying stuff like "it's a sphere and that's just a fact." It seemed like a cop out to make such statements on a conspiracy forum.
Still, the brainwashing was so deeply ingrained that I still ignored what you were posting. I assumed flat earth was just a psyop to discredit actual legit conspiracies.
Then I learned about the moon landing, the Mars missions, the ISS footage, and everything else.
Furthermore, it seemed strange that flat earth was mocked to the same degree as the moon landing was. And the moon landing is a real conspiracy...
So I watched an interview that you posted in one of your threads out of curiosity.
And the guy made some good points.
So I started looking into it more.
Fast forward a couple weeks and I've come to the conclusion that AS WE PERCEIVE IT AS INHABITANTS OF THE PLANET, the earth is undoubtedly flat.
I don't pretend to have the full picture but you've indirectly convinced me.
This is the final red pill, you're right. And it links into esoteric knowledge perfectly.
Like always, the truth is so blatant once you start looking into it that it's borderline insulting.
Thanks for posting.
I think I can take a break from conspiracies for a while after this one.
The generic comments I get go something to this tune: "You are either an idiot or a shill, you must not have no understanding to basic math and physics you retard. Hissss.. it's been proven for hundreds and thousands of years that the earth is a globe.". They have no proof though. Just rhetorical statements I don't think they realize are rhetoric.
Proof: Star trails show a clockwise spin in one area and a counter-clockwise spin in another area.
Many FEs claim Australia does not exist, so I am not saying Australia.
Yeah... And? "Proof" lol. You need to dig deeper
I have evidence anyone can do with a camera....unless you think your own camera is cgi and lying.
Explain the process or make a youtube/Bitchute video.
Have camera...program the camera for extended exposure...go to North pole...use camera
Have a camera....program the camera for extended exposure....go to South pole...use camera
Compare the star trail pictures
I've already posted about this, but go to the equator and do the same thing. You will see stars moving in opposite directions. Not possible to have in the same frame on a globe.
Why is that not possible on a globe earth, but possible on a flat earth?
Are you making another claim of not being able to go to the South Pole?
I will acknowledge that the moon landings were likely faked, but I have yet to see a good argument for flat earth and have seen plenty of people try to make the case. Faking the moon landing doesn't change the laws of physics - it makes more sense that going to the moon would have been too difficult 50 years ago if you have a good understanding of physics. Flat earth does not make sense under the known and provable laws of physics. Basically every large celestial body we can see is ball shaped because gravity makes large objects become rounder over time. Gravity would be expected to do the same to Earth.
I hadn't seen a good argument either until I started digging. The video I linked to in the first comment I made - youtube DOT com/watch?v=U_bJYXS9p4A - will do a much better job explaining the grand theory than I possibly can. If you're genuinely interested, check it out.
In case you need a push, I will leave you with a thought that may pique your curiosity:
The initial thing that got me interested was curvature math. You can go to sea level on Google Earth right now and see things in the distance that should not mathematically possible if the earth is shaped as it is said to be shaped. These things should be hidden behind the horizon. Period. Full stop. I'm not talking about lighthouses - I'm talking about islands and such. They should be hidden from view. These are simple calculations that anyone can make - and test for themselves. Countless examples of this phenomenon exist.
This doesn't prove the earth is flat, necessarily - but it does prove that the estimates of the circumference of the so-called sphere are faulty at the very least. Like I said in the OP, I don't pretend to have the full picture, but things like this cannot be ignored.
Also: How have we "proven" that gravity makes large objects become round over time? I'm not aware of any such experiments that we have conducted that have proven that. You mention the provable laws of physics, but I see no such proof in your post. I don't mean to be hostile here, just looking at it from an objective standpoint.
Looks like you haven't been here in 10 months but just letting you know there is a flatearthresearch community now
You just joined the high IQ club and officially left the ACTUAL matrix.
"The True Man Show" is a documentary.
Welcome.
High chromosome club
I want to call into question the phenomenon that makes people literally angry about it.
This is the same phenomena people get with TDS.
Like it really makes people break emotionally and react at least to some degree even though... I mean in the day to day I don't think it matters.
I am going to begin to study more deeply the process in which people get so upset when their current reality beliefs get refuted. It's like if you deprogram or you attempt to deprogram others people really have a physiological response. It is deep.
Like you can get someone talking time travel, different spiritual planes, meditation, telepathy experiments etc But if you say godamn flat earth they can't take it.
Why is that the line? Why do people feel as if they know for sure then get angry when they realize they dont? But then again we're totally open to the possibility of time travel. Where is the line that makes people get upset - it doesn't make sense.
I think it's because it's a true insult to your intelligence. To have been running around for your entire life thinking you are living on a sphere, when in actuality you've been walking across a flat plane... is somewhat unnerving. This is the only conspiracy that made me really stop in my tracks. I've been genuinely contemplating the fact that I am going to have to live my life knowing that the earth is flat. No other conspiracy has hit me this hard.
Flat earthers are also generally associated with stupid people, which forms a subconscious connection - "I'm not stupid, therefore I won't even consider the fact that the earth might be flat."
For what you mentioned about time travel and such, I think those topics are easier to broach (less resistance) because people usually don't have strong opinions on them one way or another. No one is taught to believe "NO! Time travel IS NOT POSSIBLE!" - in fact, mainstream is full of stuff talking about time travel. Whereas they are certainly taught "NO! The earth is a SPHERE, not FLAT!"
The lack of easily-discernible purpose for the flat earth lie is also a big thing that prevents people from looking into it, I think. "Why would NASA lie?" has a clear answer - money. "Why would people lie about a flat earth?" is harder to answer, and the answer makes the uninitiated roll their eyes.
Lastly, flat earth also has a bunch of supporting lies (e.g. gravity) that need to be untangled before the concept can be fully understood.
Some of us refer to it as the Agent Smith Effect, like in the matrix.
Inception also does a good job of depicting the effect, when the dreams turn against the main characters.
For anyone curious, this is the best video that summarizes the concepts that I've found: youtube DOT com/watch?v=U_bJYXS9p4A
And this is also good for more in-depth research (I think it's made by the same guy): atlanteanconspiracy DOT com
Not hyperlinking to avoid spam filter. Been lurking on here for months but decided to make an account to share this.
Legit question from an earth-shape agnostic:
In the southern hemisphere the moon and constellations appear 'upside down' from their orientation in the northern hemisphere.
E.g. I flew from Texas to Sydney and the moon appeared exactly 180° upside down from the orientation in N.America (it was extremely creepy to witness, not that the moon isn't creepy enough).
The flat earth maps that show the moon would seem to have. N.Am and Australia more like 135° from one another. And other Northern hemisphere are also at some angular distance from one another, but the moon seems to stay in the same orientation by latitude. Is there a model that explains this?
(I'm agnostic on the subject, open to different ideas, but not sure if I will ever fully know one way or another.)
Perspective.
If the Earth was flat you would always see the sun. Go ahead make a model with a GoPro camera and a big circle on the floor and a light bulb. Try to make the light disappear and duplicate the observed data that we see for the time and heading of the sunrise for any position on Earth.
Science is not done by watching YouTube videos from people trying to sell you books. If you can set up an experiment that is always superior to questionable data from an unknown source. If your experiment fails then it means your theory is wrong.
Perspective and distance. If the earth was round, you would not see the big dipper in Australia, but they can on the north half.
If the Earth was flet, the people on the southern area of Australia would be able to see the big dipper with a telescopic lens.
The honest deniers/skeptics of the truth are the ones needing the information. All arguments against the truth have too many holes. There's too many cgi and NASA cartoons. Actually no real photos of objects in space from space. You just need look at literally anything NASA shows with new eyes and it is not hard to see.
The new Chinese videos are so bad they make me laugh.
Goddamnit man...
You motherfuckers are making yourselves look really stupid...leave your fucking houses and take a flight from where the fuck ever it is you live and fly west towards the setting sun...get up on a goddamn mountain...get off the computer...stop watching fucking retards that make videos on YouTube....for fucks sake...
Going up on a mountain, in a plane, and significantly higher than mountains and planes, even
Would be the exact examples I would suggest you to do the same
Spend ten minutes and watch some of the videos and stop disparaging that which you evidently know nothing about
If you stare at the flat horizon from 75,000 feet and still don’t see anything wrong with that, then no video I can point to will change your mind at this time
You know nothing faggot. Prove anything you say bitch
Okay I’ll just make my own balloon rocket then and strap a go pro to it and away I go? I’m not sure how I can quickly prove to you that the earth isn’t a spinning globe, personally
I’m new to this, too, fren
I would maybe start with the sphere geometry mathematics and do some calculations for myself but that’s already been done a thousand times as shown in many popular “flat earth” videos
Did you watch any of the videos OP has been sharing lately?
Eric Dubay on Bitchute has plenty of material, in case you want to have a proper discussion about it
Plenty of amateur videos, etc
You’re right, I don’t know anything. How could I when I’ve been lied to my whole life and the only sources I can obtain are on the internet
There’s plenty of misinformation out there
Just gotta go with your gut and trust your senses. Best I can do with the information I’m working with
Flat or round, won’t change my day to day anyways
Godspeed, fren
Then why would you even want to? Seriously. If I didn't understand something why would I be an asshole who condescendingly tells people to watch 400 hours of the most garbage videos ever produced (including spiderman elsa fecal impregnation spam) or say "go out in your yard with a flashlight"
Well, what the fuck does a flashlight prove? That you're retarded. That's all.
I'm not watching a single second of what theses disinfo punks say until one of them tells me what a flashlight on a beach proves.
So keep making alts generations, xavier, whatever gay shit you wanna name yourself. Whatever government program spawned you people can lick my asshole. Fucking weasels
No alt accounts
A decent private investigator or any moderator of the win community could probably confirm this for you
I actually didn’t mean to be condescending, I’m not sure where that’s coming from
You opened our conversation with bitch and faggot so I can only assume at this point you are a classic internet troll and/or one of the many shills to frequent the win communities
“Im not watching anything these disinformation punks say until someone tells me how a flashlight on a beach works” How about the sphere geometry math I suggested? Or taking a view of the amateur videos shot at high altitudes, showing a flat horizion
“Whatever government program spawned you...” we can agree here at least. Bad actors subverting the truth and good intentions can absolutely lick your asshole, but I’m not one of them.
I think we’re on the same side, fren
Keep looking for the truth
Stop being so hateful, imo
Our brains don’t retain data well when stressed and being toxic isn’t helping that
Need you at your best, truth seeker
Godspeed
And that's going to be done how, exactly? By saying the earth is flat with no evidence?
Facts over feels
How can a plane fly south to north in a straightline if it is being drug along with gravity?
Thrust overcomes gravity...it’s called physics
Gravity is pulling it sideways while it is flying 90 degrees from the spin of the earth and yet the pilot doesn't have to adjust at all? Meanwhile a little bee or humingbird can overcome that force pulling the jumbo jet?
No dude....gravity is pulling toward the center of the earth....a thrust ratio that overcomes the weight of almost anything...it becomes airborne...it’s called physics
Gravity pulls relatively down buddy...a fucking bee is creating a vortex underneath the fucking wing to create the lift to keep the bee in the air
Pulling straight down while spinning?
No man no....it’s pulling towards the center of the earth....at an equal force until you get away from the mass that is earth...more mass a body has more gravity it creates
Anything is flat if you go fast enough. In all seriousness, the earth is neither spherical, nor flat. It is shape like a very squashed egg.
Also can’t believe u/ghost_of_aswartz hasn’t been by either...
You're a faggot
Incoming shill comments ?
There may be shills on the forum. But when it comes to flat earth, I think even conspiracy people are skeptical of it because the trickery seems to serve no clear physical purpose.
For example...
Federal reserve? Self-explanatory. Money.
Something like WTC7 could be linked to finances, war, politics, etc.
Even something like NASA could be seen as an institution meant to extract money from the taxpayers or something along those lines.
But flat earth seems to benefit no one. It seems like too big of a con for no apparent purpose.
"Who" it benefits only becomes clear with esoteric knowledge at your disposal. And you cannot simply state esoteric knowledge to the uninitiated; the individual must seek it himself. In my eyes, this is the major roadblock that prevents people from doing research on the topic. (Not counting how difficult it is to find good info on it due to repression and such.)
Just my 2c.
Thanks again.
Those are all good points. Hopefully see some posts from you here about esoteric to see where you're coming from.
We already see your alts, faggot
u/questionable
(Sorry for the ping i think the joke was worth it though)