Yes, that bit i was uncareful in writing. Thank you for pointing out.
What i meant though is that even while Arthur (yeah i didn't know him personally, but it's handier than "Schopenhauer"!) understood the will as something beyond material, he himself states that that which is beyond the veil of maya, which he considers to be pure will, is made of primordial forces that are unknowable.
So while indeed he points out the fact that matter is only a representation of something else, he proceeds to think of our world as our usual deterministic aspect. He know there is something else, but beyond knowing the representation is a false ( i mean derived, secondary reality) aspect, he can only explain the representation in the end, the materialist aspect, through his principles of reason.
Effectively, it seems the great pain of his philosophy was that he didn't care at all for what he could explain so easily (his thought is actually the foundation of all psychology, Freud being mainly a parroter of his and secondarily of Nietzsche), but that the only thing he could care to know he determined to be unknowable.
Nietzsche on the other hand is bolder and simply skip the whole metaphysical aspect as he sought to have mankind stop wasting this precious life elaborating and postulating and educating about something they could never know for real.
Yes, in the end both recognized something beyond the materialistic, but Arthur couldn't explain it, and Nietzsche didn't care about it.
This thing we call spirit or spiritual level was never a variable of their philosophies, if not as a psychological one... Imo. Could be wrong of course!
Yes, that bit i was uncareful in writing. Thank you for pointing out.
What i meant though is that even while Arthur (yeah i didn't know him personally, but it's handier than "Schopenhauer"!) understood the will as something beyond material, he himself states that that which is beyond the veil of maya, which he considers to be pure will, is made of primordial forces that are unknowable.
So while indeed he points out the fact that matter is only a representation of something else, he proceeds to think of our world as our usual deterministic aspect. He know there is something else, but beyond knowing the representation is a false ( i mean derived, secondary reality) aspect, he can only explain the representation in the end, the materialist aspect, through his principles of reason.
Effectively, it seems the great pain of his philosophy was that he didn't care at all for what he could explain so easily (his thought is actually the foundation of all psychology, Freud being mainly a parroter of his and secondarily of Nietzsche), but that the only thing he could care to know he determined to be unknowable.
Nietzsche on the other hand is bolder and simply skip the whole metaphysical aspect as he sought to have mankind stop wasting this precious life elaborating and postulating and educating about something they could never know for real.
Yes, in the end both recognized something beyond the materialistic, but Arthur couldn't explain it, and Nietzsche didn't care about it.
This thing we call spirit or spiritual level was never a variable of their philosophies, if not as a psychological one... Imo. Could be wrong of course!