On reddit I always read that he actually increased it, but that he passed some kind of law/rule that the reporting on this is looser. Can anyone confirm?
My understanding is that Trump undid an order Obama made on his way out of office requiring the US to report on bystanders killed by drone strikes.
Also, Obama changed the rules to say that any man that was of military age was a combatant, and not a bystander.
So, honestly, who the fuck knows. It's all just spin at this point!
In an executive order, Mr. Trump revoked a disclosure requirement that President Barack Obama imposed in July 2016. The change was the latest in a series of ways that Mr. Trump has dismantled the architecture that Mr. Obama built over time to constrain the use of drone strikes and commando raids targeting Islamist militants in places like tribal Pakistan and rural Yemen.
But Mr. Trump’s executive order noted that since 2016, Congress has enacted a law that separately requires the Pentagon to issue annual reports about bystander deaths from all of its operations, including in conventional war zones like Afghanistan and Syria.
Citing that law, the National Security Council said in a statement that the Obama-era rule amounted to “superfluous reporting requirements, requirements that do not improve government transparency, but rather distract our intelligence professionals from their primary mission.”
Still, the law requiring disclosure of bystander deaths covers only the Defense Department’s operations. It does not extend to airstrikes by the C.I.A., which has carried out its own drone campaign targeting terrorism suspects in countries such as Pakistan and Yemen.
It's because he stopped reporting them. Literally. He's dropped more bombs and drone strikes already than any other president, increased the military budget, sells arms to Saudis so they can murder Yemen. Real good guy.
Here. There's plenty of sources if that isn't good enough for you. Hard for those numbers to go up when you don't report them and you give the CIA full control to do their own airstrikes.
The notion that the Obama Administration has carried out drone strikes only when there is “near-certainty of no collateral damage” is easily disproved propaganda. America hasn’t killed a handful of innocents or a few dozen in the last 8 years. Credible, independent attempts to determine how many civilians the Obama administration has killed arrived at numbers in the hundreds or low thousands. And there is good reason to believe that they undercount the civilians killed.
Since 2017, the US has admitted to killing between 4 to 12 civilians, although the real number could be as high as 154 — and 86, at a minimum — according to a new report, "Eroding Transparency," from the monitoring group Airwars. A disproportionate number of those killed died as a result of on-the-ground raids ordered by the Trump administration, the group found: despite accounting for less than 3% of US actions documented by Airwars, such attacks accounted for some 40% of all civilian casualties.
I think you missed the part about them not reporting the casualties anymore.
Here's just one outlook on it, you can believe it or not, up to you, just presenting a view.
You say a lot of words but all I hear is "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE talking points bad REEEEEEEEEEEE" and nothing else coming out of your vapid shit mouth.
Fact: Increased military budget.
Fact: Stopped reporting civilian deaths.
Fact: Gave CIA full control of drone strikes. Obama used to sign off on each and every one, Trump said fuck it do what you want not my prob.
Fact: People arguing in defense of someone who took away transparency is FUCKING PATHETIC.
preaching to the choir my brother really is astounding.. but its hard for us to imagine, some people literally are lazy stupid pieces of shit and some their is no turning back. they literally want everything for free and dont care how, they literally dont want to work or do anything. those people exist, in droves, in America. .. Thiers way more of us though..and we ready
Or it was trumps retarded behavior calling everything fake news because it makes him look bad. Trump was the literal definition of a demagogue. You just feel for his bullshit.
Truly is a clown world, eh?
I got a fact for you! Trump cut the civilian casualties of drone strikes in half since obamas time
On reddit I always read that he actually increased it, but that he passed some kind of law/rule that the reporting on this is looser. Can anyone confirm?
My understanding is that Trump undid an order Obama made on his way out of office requiring the US to report on bystanders killed by drone strikes.
Also, Obama changed the rules to say that any man that was of military age was a combatant, and not a bystander.
So, honestly, who the fuck knows. It's all just spin at this point!
In an executive order, Mr. Trump revoked a disclosure requirement that President Barack Obama imposed in July 2016. The change was the latest in a series of ways that Mr. Trump has dismantled the architecture that Mr. Obama built over time to constrain the use of drone strikes and commando raids targeting Islamist militants in places like tribal Pakistan and rural Yemen.
But Mr. Trump’s executive order noted that since 2016, Congress has enacted a law that separately requires the Pentagon to issue annual reports about bystander deaths from all of its operations, including in conventional war zones like Afghanistan and Syria.
Citing that law, the National Security Council said in a statement that the Obama-era rule amounted to “superfluous reporting requirements, requirements that do not improve government transparency, but rather distract our intelligence professionals from their primary mission.”
Still, the law requiring disclosure of bystander deaths covers only the Defense Department’s operations. It does not extend to airstrikes by the C.I.A., which has carried out its own drone campaign targeting terrorism suspects in countries such as Pakistan and Yemen.
If they don’t want drone strikes than Europe can shed the blood of their sons/daughters. I’m done with it.
It's because he stopped reporting them. Literally. He's dropped more bombs and drone strikes already than any other president, increased the military budget, sells arms to Saudis so they can murder Yemen. Real good guy.
Who, Trump? If so I need a source please.
Here. There's plenty of sources if that isn't good enough for you. Hard for those numbers to go up when you don't report them and you give the CIA full control to do their own airstrikes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-gave-cia-power-to-launch-drone-strikes-1489444374
Which led to:
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/raqqa-victory-means-trump-defeated-isis-in-months-after-years-of-excuses-from-obama/
A quick search shows Obama's estimates in the low thousands and Trumps "as high as 154"
Do you have different numbers?
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/the-obama-administrations-drone-strike-dissembling/473541/
The notion that the Obama Administration has carried out drone strikes only when there is “near-certainty of no collateral damage” is easily disproved propaganda. America hasn’t killed a handful of innocents or a few dozen in the last 8 years. Credible, independent attempts to determine how many civilians the Obama administration has killed arrived at numbers in the hundreds or low thousands. And there is good reason to believe that they undercount the civilians killed.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-have-bombed-yemen-more-than-bush-and-obama-combined-2020-10
Since 2017, the US has admitted to killing between 4 to 12 civilians, although the real number could be as high as 154 — and 86, at a minimum — according to a new report, "Eroding Transparency," from the monitoring group Airwars. A disproportionate number of those killed died as a result of on-the-ground raids ordered by the Trump administration, the group found: despite accounting for less than 3% of US actions documented by Airwars, such attacks accounted for some 40% of all civilian casualties.
I think you missed the part about them not reporting the casualties anymore. Here's just one outlook on it, you can believe it or not, up to you, just presenting a view.
https://theintercept.com/2019/10/02/trump-impeachment-civilian-casualties-war/
https://www.khaama.com/330-of-civilian-casualties-blamed-on-trump-administration-report-8979879/
https://time.com/5879354/civilian-deaths-airstrikes-somalia/
You say a lot of words but all I hear is "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE talking points bad REEEEEEEEEEEE" and nothing else coming out of your vapid shit mouth.
Fact: Increased military budget.
Fact: Stopped reporting civilian deaths.
Fact: Gave CIA full control of drone strikes. Obama used to sign off on each and every one, Trump said fuck it do what you want not my prob.
Fact: People arguing in defense of someone who took away transparency is FUCKING PATHETIC.
Haha. You're hilarious. Fuck I missed interacting with idiots like you.
I wake up in disbelief every fucking day
I like the rage WITH The machine memes. Antifa protestors with corporate logo jerseys
Rage on Behalf of the Machine
Glad I’m out of the military; my body is broken from deploying 5 times ughhh
We were also told that Hillary and friends would be in Jail.
I think we're all retarded.
preaching to the choir my brother really is astounding.. but its hard for us to imagine, some people literally are lazy stupid pieces of shit and some their is no turning back. they literally want everything for free and dont care how, they literally dont want to work or do anything. those people exist, in droves, in America. .. Thiers way more of us though..and we ready
I wish we would just pull out. Stupid politicians refuse to. If you want war go over and fight yourselves.
Why would 4 years of no new wars be unacceptable?
You were one of the biggest trump shills on Reddit.
Shilling for Trump on Reddit? ROFLMAO
Faggot Owl Faggot G
Keep playing dumb you little bitch lmao
Don’t worry you can just delete this and post it again lmao. You are a brainwashed clown.
What are you talking about? How fucking stupid are you? The mods of conspiracy are just as big of shills as you.
Lol
Let’s not forget he hid drone strike numbers!
You are a shill bro
Says the shill
ROFLMAO
You are a fucking brainwashed retard.
Are you like 12? That would explain how gullible and retarded you are.
Or it was trumps retarded behavior calling everything fake news because it makes him look bad. Trump was the literal definition of a demagogue. You just feel for his bullshit.
As you sucks trumps sick lmao
You are a clown ?