On reddit I always read that he actually increased it, but that he passed some kind of law/rule that the reporting on this is looser. Can anyone confirm?
My understanding is that Trump undid an order Obama made on his way out of office requiring the US to report on bystanders killed by drone strikes.
Also, Obama changed the rules to say that any man that was of military age was a combatant, and not a bystander.
So, honestly, who the fuck knows. It's all just spin at this point!
In an executive order, Mr. Trump revoked a disclosure requirement that President Barack Obama imposed in July 2016. The change was the latest in a series of ways that Mr. Trump has dismantled the architecture that Mr. Obama built over time to constrain the use of drone strikes and commando raids targeting Islamist militants in places like tribal Pakistan and rural Yemen.
But Mr. Trump’s executive order noted that since 2016, Congress has enacted a law that separately requires the Pentagon to issue annual reports about bystander deaths from all of its operations, including in conventional war zones like Afghanistan and Syria.
Citing that law, the National Security Council said in a statement that the Obama-era rule amounted to “superfluous reporting requirements, requirements that do not improve government transparency, but rather distract our intelligence professionals from their primary mission.”
Still, the law requiring disclosure of bystander deaths covers only the Defense Department’s operations. It does not extend to airstrikes by the C.I.A., which has carried out its own drone campaign targeting terrorism suspects in countries such as Pakistan and Yemen.
It's because he stopped reporting them. Literally. He's dropped more bombs and drone strikes already than any other president, increased the military budget, sells arms to Saudis so they can murder Yemen. Real good guy.
Here. There's plenty of sources if that isn't good enough for you. Hard for those numbers to go up when you don't report them and you give the CIA full control to do their own airstrikes.
The notion that the Obama Administration has carried out drone strikes only when there is “near-certainty of no collateral damage” is easily disproved propaganda. America hasn’t killed a handful of innocents or a few dozen in the last 8 years. Credible, independent attempts to determine how many civilians the Obama administration has killed arrived at numbers in the hundreds or low thousands. And there is good reason to believe that they undercount the civilians killed.
Since 2017, the US has admitted to killing between 4 to 12 civilians, although the real number could be as high as 154 — and 86, at a minimum — according to a new report, "Eroding Transparency," from the monitoring group Airwars. A disproportionate number of those killed died as a result of on-the-ground raids ordered by the Trump administration, the group found: despite accounting for less than 3% of US actions documented by Airwars, such attacks accounted for some 40% of all civilian casualties.
You say a lot of words but all I hear is "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE talking points bad REEEEEEEEEEEE" and nothing else coming out of your vapid shit mouth.
Fact: Increased military budget.
Fact: Stopped reporting civilian deaths.
Fact: Gave CIA full control of drone strikes. Obama used to sign off on each and every one, Trump said fuck it do what you want not my prob.
Fact: People arguing in defense of someone who took away transparency is FUCKING PATHETIC.
I got a fact for you! Trump cut the civilian casualties of drone strikes in half since obamas time
On reddit I always read that he actually increased it, but that he passed some kind of law/rule that the reporting on this is looser. Can anyone confirm?
My understanding is that Trump undid an order Obama made on his way out of office requiring the US to report on bystanders killed by drone strikes.
Also, Obama changed the rules to say that any man that was of military age was a combatant, and not a bystander.
So, honestly, who the fuck knows. It's all just spin at this point!
In an executive order, Mr. Trump revoked a disclosure requirement that President Barack Obama imposed in July 2016. The change was the latest in a series of ways that Mr. Trump has dismantled the architecture that Mr. Obama built over time to constrain the use of drone strikes and commando raids targeting Islamist militants in places like tribal Pakistan and rural Yemen.
But Mr. Trump’s executive order noted that since 2016, Congress has enacted a law that separately requires the Pentagon to issue annual reports about bystander deaths from all of its operations, including in conventional war zones like Afghanistan and Syria.
Citing that law, the National Security Council said in a statement that the Obama-era rule amounted to “superfluous reporting requirements, requirements that do not improve government transparency, but rather distract our intelligence professionals from their primary mission.”
Still, the law requiring disclosure of bystander deaths covers only the Defense Department’s operations. It does not extend to airstrikes by the C.I.A., which has carried out its own drone campaign targeting terrorism suspects in countries such as Pakistan and Yemen.
If they don’t want drone strikes than Europe can shed the blood of their sons/daughters. I’m done with it.
It's because he stopped reporting them. Literally. He's dropped more bombs and drone strikes already than any other president, increased the military budget, sells arms to Saudis so they can murder Yemen. Real good guy.
Who, Trump? If so I need a source please.
Here. There's plenty of sources if that isn't good enough for you. Hard for those numbers to go up when you don't report them and you give the CIA full control to do their own airstrikes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-gave-cia-power-to-launch-drone-strikes-1489444374
Which led to:
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/raqqa-victory-means-trump-defeated-isis-in-months-after-years-of-excuses-from-obama/
A quick search shows Obama's estimates in the low thousands and Trumps "as high as 154"
Do you have different numbers?
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/the-obama-administrations-drone-strike-dissembling/473541/
The notion that the Obama Administration has carried out drone strikes only when there is “near-certainty of no collateral damage” is easily disproved propaganda. America hasn’t killed a handful of innocents or a few dozen in the last 8 years. Credible, independent attempts to determine how many civilians the Obama administration has killed arrived at numbers in the hundreds or low thousands. And there is good reason to believe that they undercount the civilians killed.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-have-bombed-yemen-more-than-bush-and-obama-combined-2020-10
Since 2017, the US has admitted to killing between 4 to 12 civilians, although the real number could be as high as 154 — and 86, at a minimum — according to a new report, "Eroding Transparency," from the monitoring group Airwars. A disproportionate number of those killed died as a result of on-the-ground raids ordered by the Trump administration, the group found: despite accounting for less than 3% of US actions documented by Airwars, such attacks accounted for some 40% of all civilian casualties.
You say a lot of words but all I hear is "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE talking points bad REEEEEEEEEEEE" and nothing else coming out of your vapid shit mouth.
Fact: Increased military budget.
Fact: Stopped reporting civilian deaths.
Fact: Gave CIA full control of drone strikes. Obama used to sign off on each and every one, Trump said fuck it do what you want not my prob.
Fact: People arguing in defense of someone who took away transparency is FUCKING PATHETIC.