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Can we now be both pro-trump and anti-vaccination at the same time?
posted 4 years ago by ScutFarkus 4 years ago by ScutFarkus +34 / -7

Trump has been pushing this vaccine agenda HARD.. kind of making me feel uneasy. What do you think? Is the vaccine legit? Is trump shilling for big pharma and Bill Gates? Wtf is going on?

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– ScutFarkus [S] -1 points 4 years ago +1 / -2

This is for outside interference in our election. If democrats couldn’t prove it in 2016 with the entire deep state behind them, Trump has absolutely, positively no chance in hell. The Hail Mary was the Texas lawsuit. We saw who the SCOTUS is siding with. You have to know when to hold em, and when to fold em.

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– Secretyrussianspy 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The democrats, who are owned by China and Israel were trying to expose Russia and found nothing.

This time the Patriots are exposing China and eventually Israel.

If you think these situations are similar, well, your head needs to get checked out.

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– ScutFarkus [S] -2 points 4 years ago +1 / -3

Tell me how two elections with alleged foreign interference that neither have proven in a court of law have nothing in common. Please.

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– Secretyrussianspy 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

One had literally zero evidence so (((their))) controlled judges couldn't prosecute. The other has literally mountains of evidence, so (((their))) controlled judges won't prosecute.

There are safe guards in place if the courts are too corrupt that the dems couldn't use because they didn't have a leg to stand on, but all this evidence that the Patriots have that the dems didn't means those safeguards can be utilized because the Patriots have thousands of legs to stand on.

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– ScutFarkus [S] -2 points 4 years ago +1 / -3

A lot of my family are liberal/progressive and they think that side also has mountains of evidence as well. They’ve asked to see the un-redacted muller report every time we talk about Russiagate. I’m just saying everyone thinks they’re right. We have to trust the court’s judgement, especially when they lean 6-3 conservative.

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– RandomPhD10 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

There is no fold, because there is no nation otherwise. Maybe you are comfortable living in a false reality (ironic for someone on a conspiracy forum) but what percentage of Trump supporters won't take it? 0.5%? That is an army of 400k.

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– ScutFarkus [S] -2 points 4 years ago +1 / -3

Implying I’m living in a false reality while simultaneously stating “here’s how trump can still win...”

Ok bud.

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– RandomPhD10 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

Shrug. I guess we will see. Good luck.

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– ScutFarkus [S] 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

I’m glad this can end without bloodshed. That’s a good sign for this place. I’m trying to accept reality myself because I’ve felt strung along this whole time. Nothing has worked out. I’m not a nihilist, there are just zero indications that Trump can pull this off. I’ll leave room for a freak curveball, but other than a miracle or Biden croaking before January 20th (which, let’s be honest, isn’t too crazy) I just don’t see trump getting another term. 2024 is an entirely different story.

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– dwcdwc 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I’m not a nihilist, there are just zero indications that Trump can pull this off.

Please point out where you stated “here’s how trump can still win...”

I would like to see your whole argument, but I'm not finding that part. EDIT: Did you mean 2024? Because that would be arguing two different things - we're talking fraud in the 2020 election.

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– ScutFarkus [S] 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

I’m not arguing that trump can still win. I would have argued that before the SCOTUS yeeted the Texas case out of court. As far as I’m concerned it’s a wrap for 2020. Yes, 2024 is a different argument.

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– RandomPhD10 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

And how many people do you think will lay their life on the line for Biden? Trump supporters believe they are fighting for this country and the constitution. They are not fighting for themselves. It doesn't take much.

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– ScutFarkus [S] 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

I think you’re making a mistake confusing “for Biden” and “against trump.” Th general consensus is democrats were never head over heels for Biden. And how could you be, he’s a corpse. But the hatred of trump on the left is very real and not to be underestimated. Think what you will of BLM and antifa, I sure have my own opinions. But they have at least shown they aren’t afraid to get their hands dirty. Democrats underestimated trump in 2016. The same mistake can’t be made about the left. There may not be as many soldiers on the left, but as far as sheer numbers are concerned, they outnumber the right something like 3 to 2.

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– RandomPhD10 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

Whenever they actually face push back they fold like a house of cards. They are the left, the anti 2A group. A 17 year old kid killed one, crippled another. They will be crushed.

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– hereticpatriot 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Agree. Warp Speed is a cover.

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– ScutFarkus [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Are you viewing military occupation of American cities as a good thing?

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– RandomPhD10 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

The military will keep the resulting riots in check and make the necessary arrests of CCP operatives. That is assuming the supreme court punts again. All of this can still be settled peacefully, but it appears to me that the corrupt politicians don't realize every chance they've been given to make things right is not a chance for us, but a chance for them to save themselves.

The reality is we are already under foreign occupation by China which has bought and compromised prominent left leaning politicians. Next step will be seizure of foreign assets and military tribunals for traitors.

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– ScutFarkus [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I’ve seen the theory of POTUS declaring martial law floating around. Is this something you would be open to, or do you think it would be setting us up for a precedent of less freedom and more restrictions with future administrations?

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– RandomPhD10 4 points 4 years ago +5 / -1

It happened with Lincoln, so I am open to it. At this point, over 50% of the country knows there was election fraud, and the system is failing us. They are refusing to look at the evidence or telling us the evidence is "deboooonked" even when it hasn't been. There is no other course of action imo. I think the 2 million CCP spy leak is to prep normies for the fact that a large portion of the government has been compromised by the CCP and this is the only remaining course of action.

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– ScutFarkus [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I’m genuinely not trying to argue with you here, it’s just that “over 50%” amount is pretty off. Zero democrats think there is fraud, and if they do, they think it came from trumps campaign. The majority of republicans think there was fraud, but there’s still somewhere around 20-30% that haven’t gotten on board with it. Not to mention the not-insignificant group of Americans who have a “who gives a fuck” approach to politics. Basically, the true majority of Americans wouldn’t be on board with panzers rolling down Main Street. And when the democrats DO get back into power, which they will, they won’t forget and will absolutely up the stakes. Then we all lose even more. Just my $.02. It would be pretty tough to un-involve the military too and who knows where that would end. Trump can only live but so long.

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– RandomPhD10 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

If the presidency of the US can be stolen, then the entire country is a lie. Some people refuse to live in the matrix. Martial law will be very short. It will just be enough time to round up highly connected politicians linked to the CCP. The 2 million CCP spy drop is to prepare the normies for the idea that highly connected politicians are compromised. The lefties will be allowed to save face. CNN will be used to tell them they were manipulated by the evil CCP. The country will be united around an external enemy and we will enter a new cold war. It won't last long as with the natural disasters that took place in China last year, the starving population will overthrow the CCP internally and we will resume relations.

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– ScutFarkus [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Did you ever think you’d be advocating for martial law on a conspiracy site?

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– dwcdwc 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Did you intentionally link the Trump administration to the Nazi Germany dictatorship with the word "panzers" there?

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– ScutFarkus [S] 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

No.

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– RandomPhD10 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/11/19/whoa-nearly-a-third-of-democrats-believe-the-election-was-stolen-from-trump-n1160882

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– RandomPhD10 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-arrest-and-imprisonment-irresponsible-newspaper-reporters-and-editors

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– checkoutthisusername 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I have thought this as well. There is a theory that we are in the midst of information war with china and the medical industry is in China’s pockets just like the politicians. To expose them you need to let them do the deed (same reason the election fraud wasn’t exposed prior to the election). Most importantly you need to be set up to record the fraud. The theory is he is currently recording the meddling with china and will expose it after the vaccines release. Give it whatever credibility you think it deserves, but that is A theory. Time will tell.

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– ScutFarkus [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

My concern is the safety of the vaccine and the involvement of bad actors in its development. If it’s safe, then we shouldn’t worry. If it isn’t safe, why isn’t trump trying to stop it instead of moving at “warp speed”, ya know?

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– iouybiy 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I like Trump, but sad that he never downplayed this bullshit virus and vaccine. I guess some things you have to go along with politically. I am not taking that vaccine.

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– how_could 4 points 4 years ago +5 / -1

Trump has also historically been vaccine cautious. I would bet he will never make a vaccine mandatory. The whole nation is pushing for a vaccine it's nothing he can ignore openly.

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– GreatHate2022 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Thats a media lie. nobody wants the vaccine. 99.97 survival rate for a weak virus

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– how_could 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

You're right that nobody wants the vaccine but the entire world is pushing for it from the media hype. Regardless if the hype was warranted it had an affect, there's no politically safe way to distance yourself from Corona madness, enough people bought into the hype that it had to be addressed. Personally I don't think it's shit, until recent years Corona Viruses were commonly known to be a common cold just like Rinovirus. The manipulation of the flu numbers and media focus on "positivity rates" vs death rates is obvious. I'm certainly not being any radical test subject.

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– hereticpatriot 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Yes. But I also have a sneaking suspicion that operation warp speed is not what we think it is.

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– TemporaryAccount16 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Being ANTIVAX Makes you more PRO Trump than ever. Hes ALWAYS pushed Therapeutics but if he didn't develop a vaccine he would have been eaten alive by the media.

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– ScutFarkus [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

So then will you be taking the vaccine that he has been heavily promoting?

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– TemporaryAccount16 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

45 is a man of comms. There are several comms discovered in tons of his vaccine talk. Think of who's distributing the vaccine, the National Guard. That requires troop movement to make that happen. How do you infiltrate and occupy major cities to quell social issues without making your presence seen in a negative light? Under the guise of the vaccine.

He is doing his job as President to offer Americans the option of the vaccine, he simply cannot shut it out because He and his administration think its terrible, to some people, a vaccine is what they have been indoctrinated to expect from the medical community.

Look deeper into the situation as a whole. The US is currently a Bridge board, and introductory moves are being made. The war has started, friend.

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– IPreferDiamonds 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I'm pro-Trump and will not take the vaccine.

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– Luthien13 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I think the vax is just being pushed for people who are afraid. If they want to get the vax they can. Trump has never said it will be mandated. He needs the people who are asleep to not be so afraid. He needs to take power away from the tyrants. If there's a vax then there's no reason businesses can't reopen ---> life can go back to normal; instead of this Great Reset new normal they're trying so hard to implement. I don't think he truly believes in the vax. I think it's more an optics play than anything else.

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– ScutFarkus [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What’s the goal with manipulating the optics though? Regardless of if he won or didn’t, there won’t be another election.

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– Luthien13 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

He's acting like he's preparing for a second term. Optics are everything. If he gets that second term he needs to open up the country and take power away from these domestic tyrants. The vehicle for their power grab is the fear of Covid 1984. If there's no reason to be afraid, there's no reason to grab power. People are already pissed about the lockdowns. They want to go back to normal. The vax is the answer for the people who are so afraid. It's their cure.

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I didn’t know that. That doesn’t help what I’m feeling lol.

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– CJGodley1776 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Time will tell.

Sometimes he baits and switches.

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– CJGodley1776 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

St. Robert Bellarmine wrote a book on the Antichrist in the 1500s. You should check it out!

The historical position on the antichrist is that he will come from the tribe of Dan.

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– ScutFarkus [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

So then do you think the vaccine is safe?

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– iyskreem 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Hell yes, we can. I am. Card-carrying MAGAtard who rejects the vaccine. I can't think of a single person on earth I agree with on every single point, so it doesn't bother me to have objections

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– Armitage 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFEofDrTv40 Listen to what he is really saying. First 2 times he is saying FISA and that he was hoping it would turn out this way and it did.

Third time he says PFIZER is 95% defective.

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– GreatHate2022 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Most of us are. Very pro Trump and I will NOT COMPLY WITH THE DEATH CHICOM VACCINE. TRUMP NEVER SAID ITS MANDATORY. MY BODY MY CHOICE

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– ScutFarkus [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

So then the vaccine isn’t anything to worry about? Just a lib pacifier?

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– CJGodley1776 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

Yes.

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– ScutFarkus [S] 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

Your entire comment reads like the male equivalent of “live, laugh, love.” Be more interesting.

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Still melting down, huh. You can end your suffering anytime.

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I’m actually flattered that you’ve shown me this much attention. Guess you see something you like, huh.

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Anyway, you keep on just....well, being miserable and when you want to end your suffering, just let me know.

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