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Are communists welcome here?
posted 4 years ago by sp3k 4 years ago by sp3k +5 / -4

I’m very conspiracy minded however i’m also a pretty hardcore Marxist/Leninist. That cool with y’all?

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– Scooby 6 points 4 years ago +7 / -1

You're allowed here because we aren't a communist nation. How ironic.

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– iouybiy 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Communism is technically banned in the united states by law. It is never enforced though.

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– sp3k [S] -1 points 4 years ago +2 / -3

When you recognize the reality of modern capitalism, you too will realize that America does in fact censor people like me just the same as the Trump crowd.

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– sp3k [S] -1 points 4 years ago +1 / -2

Yes, we are essentially controlled completely by corporations and the obscenely wealthy. However I remain skeptical that “pure” capitalism is a viable option given that capitalisms stated end goal is the extraction of value from resources until no more value can be extracted. That system will have disastrous consequences for our country and the world (and has).

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– sp3k [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

In short: by routing goods and services based on demonstrated need rather than by maximizing profit, you actually end up using far less resources and making sustainable production far easier. Check out Wage, Labor and Capital by Marx/Engels there’s a lot more info there.

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– Chuj 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

Communism breeds slackers. See USSR

'nuff said

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– BasedChad 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I can only agree with you that neoliberal capitalism is literal cancer, but only because it has inevitably developed communist characteristics. The original communism seems like little more than a pipe dream by this point.

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– sp3k [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Neoliberalism is AIDS yeah. I think that neoliberalism is actually an inevitable outcome of capitalism, I think in practice neolibs and socialists are the 2 most diametrically opposed ideologies in the US right now.

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– Scooby 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

Why would you want to be governed over like China?

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– sp3k [S] -1 points 4 years ago +1 / -2

Short answer: I don’t. China is a capitalist oligarchy masquerading as communist, but they are 100% still completely beholden to capital.

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– Nomen 4 points 4 years ago +5 / -1

Anyone is allowed

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– ScutFarkus 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I hope this kind of welcoming attitude is the norm and not the exception. We need to have multiple points of view in order to get to the truth. Otherwise this is just an echo chamber that reinforces its own bias. There are other places for that. Time will tell.

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– ScutFarkus 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Also, lol @ “anyone is allowed” being posted by “nomen”

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– Nomen 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Its Latin? Is Latin names not allowed?

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– iouybiy 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Since the meme retort of every commie is that 'that wasnt true communism' after every communist society fails, what in your opinion was the best or closest of all the failed attempts?

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– sp3k [S] 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

I truly believe the soviets of the pre-Stalin era had it right. They took an agrarian peasant economy with a literal monarchy and in 10 years were matching the production, education, and housing quality of the west, which took far longer to arrive there under mostly pure capitalism. Of course Stalin was a disaster.

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– iouybiy 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

It always takes less time for the second guy than the first mover.

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– iouybiy 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

So from 1918-1924, pretty good run, lol. And the Cheka operated all during this time.

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– 19841776 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I welcome people with different viewpoints from my own. Be respectful, be civil, and be honest, and I think you’ll find we are a tolerant bunch. But there are assholes everywhere.

I am unlikely to agree with you on many topics, but I think you’re entitled to believe what you want as long as you don’t encroach on the liberties of others. Ultimately, I believe that your choice of political philosophy is fundamentally flawed, impossible to manifest in it’s intended form, and has horrible consequences for those who try/tried.

P.S. China is asshoe

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– AbdulAlhikma 1 point 4 years ago +3 / -2

Wanted to ask the same.

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