Is this relevant? The command to vaccinate was issued two days ago. how could all these numbers have accumulated? Is she talking about other mRNA vaccines?

You are misinterpreting "listen".

Apparently. "Listening" was the word you used. I thought it meant you knew what he was saying when you vouched for the value of what he said. I guess not.

I can't see much point in carrying this on given you're willing to value someone's input while claiming you didn't actually know what they said.

Last word to you, if you want it.

As if you knew.

So you haven't listened to him but you vouch for him. I think you're making my argument for me.

You certainly don't have any information and admittedly zero expertise.

That appears to be your gold standard according to all the information you've provided on the subject.

"little"

He said, possibly under the impression there were sources that had none.

You may want to review your understanding of "takes one to know one"

Who said I listened to them?

This you?

Xaviermgk 1 point 5 days ago +1 / -0

He certainly worth listening to more than you, that's for sure.

I think that's a roundabout way of telling me that you don't have much information about Dr. David Martin's expertise in infectious diseases or public health.

My country is in this list:

"Here are the 10 countries viewed to have the most well-developed public health care systems. The U.S. ranks No. 22, falling seven spots on the list compared to 2020." (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/countries-with-the-most-well-developed-public-health-care-system)

But it's not #22.

Wait till people find out about the treasonous behavior at Reuters.

Well, they're acknowledged to have little bias. What do you think will happen to them?

glad you agreed to shilling

And I'm glad you agree Alex Jones is doing it.

Nah, Caesar doesn't own the life of the people.

That's right, for sure, but where I live he runs the health care system.

you literally have no justification or qualifications for the things that you say

But you're willing to listen to all those other people with no qualifications.

Why on Earth would anyone share anything of value with you?

Because they wanted to indicate that they had more than the voices in their head to go on.

Takes one to know one.

At least we agree that he is one.

Malone

He fits into the credentialed but discredited category {https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaccine-safe-idUSL2N2NX1J6)

Jesus

Matthew 22:21

I'd say Public Health is Caesar's.

"Malone clarified that he was not discouraging the use of the vaccine but was providing people with as much fair information as he could about their risks."

https://news.yahoo.com/single-most-qualified-mrna-expert-173600060.html

Malone's argument is about informed consent, not the vaccine.

As for Yeadon I think the failure of his dreams for Ziarco last year knocked a screw loose. He made a pile when he sold the company but Novartis was supposed to bring his baby to market. Instead they wound it down and lost hundreds of millions. Yeadon still had his money but that's around the time he went from being a supporter on Twitter ("Covid 19 is not going away. Until we have a vaccine or herd immunity all that can be done is to slow its spread.”) and (“A vaccine might be along towards the end of 2021, if we’re really lucky.”) to taking his new position. I don't know why he's taking it out on Pfizer.

Don't forget he predicted the death toll in the UK wouldn't reach 40,000. It's now at 130,000. For a n expert his grip is a little shaky.

Dr. David Martin?

1. He's selling his books.

2. His credentials seem to be impressive but largely financial. If you know of something related to infectious diseases or public health please let me know.

So if anyone still has an open mind about this remember that the people who are promoting vaccination and the other public health measures are trained and experienced, know what they are talking about, and number in the millions globally.

The people who are feeding on and promoting the fear generated by a global pandemic are either selling something and/or working for for foreign governments. They are almost invariably completely untrained in the science, and discredited if they do have any remotely legitimate credentials.

Did you even watch the video?

I watched the longer non-doctored video, the one where a bunch of scientists talk about how they're going to approach this new virus. Not the super short one that was cut to make them look like they were baffled.

many years of history speaks way louder

Yep. Especially when they're talking about smallpox, polio, diphtheria,...

HCQ, ivermectin, zinc

What's your personal experience with them?

Recorded call to moderna

Everyone knows it's an emergency approval. Because, well, it's an emergency. If this is even a real call. Can't tell from that link.

Israel, Iceland

If almost all of the citizens are vaccinated then of course almost all of the people who are ill will have been vaccinated. The relevant information would be how hammered the hospitals are but that information is not given. The interview with the Israeli doctor does not actually include "We are opening more and more COVID wards." That appears to have been added by the tweeter Ran Israeli.

So I repeat: it would be a problem if the hospitals were stressed but the only hint that that might be the case turns out to have been added by someone we've never heard of.

This is typical of Infowars stuff: slanted reporting and lies.

And did you notice the big banner ad for Infowars merch at the top? Jones has been reported to have bragged about making $60 million a year from that. (https://www.npr.org/2021/03/24/979362593/alex-jones-still-sells-supplements-on-amazon-despite-bans-from-other-platforms) He makes a good buck dishing up the baloney. Like Mike Adams.

why subject yourself to known killers while in the process

Because statistically your odds of getting injured are way less with the vaccine than without it. It's a global pandemic after all, and everyone's at risk. It's just a question of managing that risk.

Have you seen the leaked WHO vaccine summit video

The one about the live-streamed - that is to say, NOT leaked - conference that anyone who cared to could watch at any time? The one from 20 months ago? From before the vaccine trials were finished? The one with a lot of cherry-picked, out-of-context quotes from people who were describing the questions they were facing in dealing with the virus?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/GA2mHSbta6cn/

As well as being 20 months old: your linked page has another link that shows the conference's live stream. According to one of the conference attendees who has seen the 9 minute "shocking footage" that short version leaves out a lot.

"The meeting footage is being used to manufacture new misinformation. In many examples I have seen on Twitter and other platforms, a statement by a scientist that highlights something that is not yet understood is used to imply therefore there is nothing understood."

https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2020/01/16/who-vaccine-safety-summit.html

Funny how you didn't vet every journalist from those links you churn out

Unlike Mr. Dicks they have a track record in their field. He has nothing.

You aren't here to talk about conspiracies

Sure I am. What's the rationale for listening to one that comes from Mr. Dicks, who's not qualified to put one forward?