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sonofpromise 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’ll be honest man, the phrasing of your post is difficult for me to respond to and a bit out of my intellectual field. I’ll respond to what I can, which is the subject of denominations springing from Christianity as an issue- it is.

Christianity, at least as we see it today, is not the original intention of either God or Jesus Christ. There’s nowhere in his teachings that he says “we’re going to start a new religion, everyone!”. All the denominations stem from a disagreement on either some guys writings about the Bible or church, or some argument over the interpretation/application of a handful of verses. Few people along the way stopped to think if the whole thing was out of sorts and we’re playing dominos when we should have been playing jacks, so to speak.

The major separation from “truth of purpose to corruption of purpose” was during the major persecution of the early believers and the following councils that placated to pagan practices with a newly established Christian flavour. I’d point back to early councils eradicating the commandments of God as a starting point, the Catholic Church upholding the abolition of Gods Sabbath (as an example) in favour for something they call the Lords day, and an influx of false teachings that made it so that, even today, most Christian’s read the Bible through a faulty lens that creates a misunderstanding.

Just as an example, most people say something like “when God led the Jews out of Egypt…” in reference to the Exodus story, when in truth there were no specific people group called “Jews” or “Jewish” until the Babylonian exile when the House of Judah/Jew-dah was exiled from Israel. It’s a minor deviation, but it establishes the groundwork for misconception that snowballs into what we have today. Take that concept, multiple it by 1000 and make EVERY Christian university teach that, or a slightly altered version of it. What we end up with is 30,000 different denominations arguing over ideas like transubstantiation, methods of church liturgy, baptism, or other more spiritual ideas all the while they have barely grasped the essential foundations of the faith.

I don’t disagree that religious leaders have exploited and manipulated their followers, even in Christianity. I agree whole heartedly that the manipulation of any person on the grounds of religion, my own or someone else’s, is a gross injustice. I cast blame on those who used Christianity for gain, and those who manipulated the true teachings of Christ for the establishment of religion and government. To take it further, I’m insulted by the modern Republicans and Democrats who both twist the Bible to advance their political agendas, and I’m equally insulted by the churches that use smoke and lights and elaborate performances to evoke emotional responses in church goes in the name of worship services.

But I don’t believe the answer is to throw out the baby with the bath water. I think we can see past everywhere that man had his hands and twisted the religion for his gain and boil it down to the basic elements of the faith, the teachings of the Bible, that in their proper context most Christian’s today would actually reject.

Just to reiterate and summarize my point: the false image and teachings of Jesus represented by the church, distorted through man made traditions, gross human moral failings, denominational preferences, pagan and satanic rituals/holidays and influence as well as political usurpations are just that- false images. They are not the true faith taught by the Bible or by Christ and they are just as dangerous as they are misleading.

All that being said, as a thought experiment:

if I’m right and the false brand of Christianity that we’ve been sold is a Psy-op, we should wonder why work that hard to deface the truth and to what end have the perpetrators been working towards. Those are the areas of study I’ve been devoting myself to lately anyways.

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sonofpromise 1 point ago +2 / -1

The man made religion of Christianity is largely a psy-op but not in the way you’d think. It isn’t a government “religion is the opiate of the masses” type of psy-op most suggest, but it has been used that way for sure.

I’d contend that there is a true expression of the faith that the Bible teaches, and that Jesus taught, that’s been covered up by those in power, whether that means intentionally by your deep state/royal families and hardcore zionists or laymen, pastors and scholars who unknowingly stuff the truth in a sack for the sake of man made religious traditions and teachings.

Either way, when “we” reflect on Christianity, I come to the conclusion that the majority of people who touch a Bible only get half the truth because of false religion that supersedes what the Bible itself says. So much so that while I’ve been around Christian’s for most of my life, I’ve only found a few that actually took the Bible at face value, examined the actual historical context of the letters, including their place in the whole biblical narrative and the significance of the original languages, and would not allow man made traditions and theological doctrine and interpreters bias decide what’s true and what isn’t.

Id probably contend that your understanding of Christianity being a psy-op is closer to the truth then most Christian’s want to admit, but that doesn’t mean that’s the end of the discussion. Modern day Christianity, in particular Catholicism but also a major portion of Protestantism, is essentially a straw man in comparison to the true faith taught by the Messiah.

  • there’s too much archaeological and historic evidence for the biblical story to simply brush it aside if you’re studying the subject sincerely. They found pharaohs golden chariots on an under water land bridge in the Red Sea, the found Noah’s ark in the mountains of Ararat, they found sodom and Gomorrah destroyed and confirmed the balls of fire through scientific inquiry, they found the ark of the covenant with blood that is still living with the DNA matching what we’d expect of the Messiah and the virgin birth story, this was found under the place Jesus was crucified where the scriptures report the earth splitting, where the ark was buried. They’ve come up with evidence suggesting the biblical creation and following flood story is supported not just through other cultures worldwide but by the geography of our planet itself. None of this is common knowledge, but the evidence itself all supports the biblical narrative, just not the resulting religion that men decided should precede the teachings of Christ.

  • there’s too much intentional watering down of “Bible truth” with pagan idolatry celebrated by satanists the world over to be a coincidence. When every other pagan or satanic holiday takes root in the people that are supposed to oppose paganism and satanism, they should probably wonder who pissed in their corn flakes but no, “insert out of context Bible verse of church tradition here” is enough to justify dancing with the devil.

None of this of course is going to, or is meant to, get you to come down to the altar. Just hopefully provide enough of an argument to say “yeah, there’s more going on here then meets the eye”. In the interest of “conspiracies”, this one meets all the criteria.

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sonofpromise 1 point ago +1 / -0

You’ve been telling me to look forward to cannablism and starvation for 2-3 years. Your takes are so weak and watered down, you’ll be munching your own child’s leg with lemon pepper seasoning while the rest of us go to the grocery store like normal people. Holy shit get your eyes off the internet for 5 minutes and go live your life.

Xoxo

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sonofpromise 0 points ago +1 / -1

I should add that we often spend less because we have the freezer full of meat. Getting the fresh beef gives us a ton of variety (roast, steak, stew) and our regular grocery trips just amount to produce, butter, sauces, cheese, etc.

You can also often find things like honey in bulk from a local bee farm for cheaper then the store bought stuff.

All this little stuff adds up and I recommend pursuing it. We were getting fresh milk every week from our neighbours while their cows were producing and that stuff was the business. Fresh milk=butter, cream, and cheese.

Oh and also looking into the local berry farms in picking season, or learning how to harvest plants for tea and medicine will go a long way. We have friends that bring us freshly made rose-hip cough syrup, or freshly made apples from a guys orchard.

Basically, get yourself out of the big city and into a small town. Or make the connections and you will not regret it.

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sonofpromise 0 points ago +1 / -1

We live in Canada and spend on average around $200 per week on groceries for a family of 4 with a bit extra for pets and preps. I haven't seen $15 bologna, and where I live (small town, rural) our grocery stores prices have dropped back to 3-5 dollars for 3 heads of lettuce and $8 for fresh store made beef salami.

I was pretty concerned about things before, especially last year with all the "supply chain/economy is collapsing tomorrow" stuff, but store shelves are well stocked, prices are affordable and sales come and go as usual. I'm not seeing as much to be concerned about on the ground at the consumer level as I was last year. Idk if that's a good thing or not, or what else I'm missing. I suppose it could be the calm before the storm.

Connect with your local farmers and get a freezer full of fresh beef (4-600$ for about 6 months worth for our family) and eggs ($3 a dozen from a friend). Find some local guys that do their own gardening and canning and sell it on subscription, I think that could be worth it too. I'm looking into that since we arent ready to start gardening beyond a few cucumbers and tomatos this year.