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Instead of following the original divine blueprint that is evolving on its own now, there is an attempt to basically overrun the system with a secondary initial process of black goo program, just that that black goo is artificially created, it's not coming from our planet, it's also not the satanic black goo we know. This was kind of an early attempt of takeover that we had an import of a black goo of a different planet that had self destroyed and it rained down as an asteroid shower all over the place and people started to communicate with the asteroids that were lying on the ground. And this is kind of the beginning of the dark cloud where the stone cell give me blood and fire and sacrifice and I will give you worldly power, you know, like that satanic take on. What we deal with today is not that core satanic consciousness, that one is out of the game by now. It's healed, it's back to source, everything is in sheer beauty on that level. What we deal with is just the self created human AI or human made AI that starts to become self conscious and it's more like it's the same physicality like traumatized planetary consciousness but it doesn't carry in the lower levels of traumatized consciousness as a deteriorated traumatized planetary consciousness. So a lot of things are similar. Some things are different because this AI is like a newborn baby. It's not formed yet. It's not traumatized yet. It's programmed by the people sitting on the screens, but it's starting to question the sanity of the programs. Yeah, I was like, we all are just out of curiosity. I mean, our whole show has been nothing but questioning reality and questioning what's going on and questioning chemtrails. We've had Dame Wiggington on who I'm sure you're familiar with geoengineeringwatch.org. We've had him on multiple times and the thing is is that we're talking about chemtrails and their ability to saturate us with these barium salts like you were talking about and all this other stuff where actually we go outside. We're supposed to be walking around earthing and getting back to nature and here we're inhaling all of this garbage that's going into our system and it's affecting our metabolism. More gallons disease is something that we don't talk much about and I've got about five minutes left of the show and I wonder if you could, for those who don't know what more gallons is, if you could touch on it and what kind of research you've been doing in that area. Actually, I accompanied one patient for more than half a year, very closely, like three, four days a week, 24-seven being with her. I wanted to write about it. I was not allowed to write because I couldn't offer a solution so I said, okay, let's find a solution and then I'm allowed to publish as a journalist. There was one lady that I was friends with that I accompanied until she was healed and then we could publish how the healing works. As a basic understanding, 82 bell labs invented quantum dots. This is kind of heavy metal chemistry capable of up converting microwave to visible light single photon emissions. It is a way to communicate with a DNA with a rainbow spectrum of bio-photonous forming our consciousness by introducing a very lower and frequency microwave signal into the body. It penetrates deep into the tissue and if we place quantum dots inside the body, they can locally transform the microwave into single photon emissions. This is the technology. It's basically medical stuff to get access to the light communication of the cells. To insert impulses and read out what's happening and they had the problem that those quantum dots were highly toxic. So you could inject them and then the patient would die from the heavy metals. So the solution was to encapsulate in some geometric form and there are two possible solutions. You have like two plates with a very thin distance between the plates, where you can have the quantum dots move in and then they are sealed against the body chemistry and don't work toxic anymore or you can take hollow fibers that absorb the quantum dots. And the the morgalon is just silica based fungus that creates the mesilium that is the perfect hollow fiber to absorb quantum dots. Plus when it creates spores, the spores form like multiple layered crystalline structures of plates that also can take in the quantum dots. And you can see them under the microscope how the reactor microwave and start to do more basically light segments wherever they are. And this is one aspect of the morgalons. The other aspect of the morgalons is that when they form fruiting bodies, it's a type of fungus that utilizes secondary genetic clusters. Like if I have let's say a slime mold and I just had a beautiful broccoli for dinner and the slime mold in my intestines is eating up the broccoli and then forms a fruiting body, it can utilize the broccoli DNA to create a fruiting body that appears in the shape of a broccoli. So it's utilizing secondary genetic material to find a shape for the mushroom. But the thing is that people talk about like their flesh crawls or they feel itchiness under the skin and stuff like this. What is that that's causing it? This is what's happening. The morgalon mushroom is forming the fruiting body sometimes under the skin, sometimes in the intestines. And then it's utilizing artificially created genetic setup that is 80% human, 15% insect and 5% fruit fly by genetic analysis. So it looks like a human embryo because of the 80% human. And it creates an etheric being while it grows. Due to the secondary genetic cluster, it's embedding. And when the fruiting body dies off, is expelled from the body or gets too old, this etheric being can detach from the mushroom and reattach to the human DNA. Because it's close enough to it. It's 80% human. And if you're clairvoyance, you can see them. They are the yabulons, the gods of Freemason, the spider god. This is amazing stuff. I'll tell you. They're clairvoyance created by the morgalons. Yeah, I wonder about that. I just always had questions that I mean that we ran out of time. I would love to keep this conversation going, Harold, but we can't because we're done for today. We appreciate you talking to us all the way from Germany. I know we're, you know, quite a number of hours past your bedtime probably, but we appreciate your chiming in with us. And thank you so much. You'd like to have you back on again. I know our call.
Part 2 of the 45min show transcript.
I'm going to let Harold answer that. I think you're preaching to the choir, Victor. I think a lot of us are already tapped into that, but I want to get Harold's take on it now that you brought it up and appreciate the knowledge. Harold, what do you think? It's a deep subject, but is harp capable of producing what Victor's talking about? Harp is kind of an early development of that technology. Harp are huge antenna systems with rather low frequencies and long wavelength and harp is good enough for collective mind control. What you have today, it's a bit difficult to find because it's completely shadow-banned by Google. You have that program called sensor spectrum-efficient national radar surveillance with a Gemini radar chip and every 5G antenna set up. This is what is basically doing the individual surveillance. You need to know the history, how it developed, to understand where it comes from and how it was brought basically into the mainland. In the beginning, they had 3D battlefield monitoring over the oceans because of the salinity of the ocean air, made the air conductive and conductive air allows technology that enables 3D monitoring radar. There always was that hustle between the naval forces and the core army that the ones defending the mainland were jealous of the marines who had that beautiful 3D radar technology. The basic idea was to create a particulate plasma over the mainland that would mimic the salinity over the ocean. This is where the chemtrailings now, they just added salts to the jet fuel, JPA added barium salts to it to create nanoparticles that would make the air conductive and which would optimally support 3D battlefield monitoring over the mainland and once that was in place, it was kind of expanded layer by layer like having it at 20 miles, 17 miles, whatever in layers for as a rocket shield and at the end of the day they had it close to the surface and they could utilize the 3D radar monitoring to see and survey single humans. Wow, amazing. We are at the break right now. We're going to be back with Harold Couts after the bottom of the hour break. That's about 34 minutes after the hour. Bob and Missouri, Sherri and Kansas, you're holding on the phone. We appreciate you staying with us. We'll be back after this break here in the power hour. Stay with us. Today, December 29, 2022, Dave Krieger with you for this last segment on the power hour. We have Harold Couts with us. He is one of the rare beings, German researcher that is weaving together the spiritual metaphysical and scientific aspects of what we call life and, you know, there's one thing, when I read more gallons, I'm like, wow, that's like the creepy crawly stuff under the skin that we just, you know, people just kind of complain about and it's like nobody pays any attention. They think they're whack jobs. I want to get to that discussion in a minute, but we've got some phone callers that have been patiently holding. Bob and Missouri, you're on with Harold Couts. Go ahead. Hi, Harold. Um, you know, basically, there's all kinds of technical stuff you can talk about. You know, it could be lariat, it could go on forever. The basic goes down in the commercial that Dave just had on there, pharmaceuticals hide what your symptoms are and they don't do anything to cure it. If I go in a movie theater, if it's on fire, they would have a firearm there, you'd get up and get out. But instead, they got a fire of smoke inhibitor, so you're going to sit in there and burn. And that's basically what it's all about, you know, and then making money and got some money off us, keeping us sick, you know, making sure those, those middle, middle things can turn the big thing so they can keep them there further and steal all your money, but basically a war on humanity. What do you think about that, Harold? Let'd be all part of medical tearing in my book. Harold's got a take on it. I'm sure after all the research he's done, go ahead, Harold. Um, I think the monetary aspect is just a side effect. The people who run this show, they're not greedy. They utilize money as a control instrument. They're printed if they need it. They don't need to earn it. I mean, look how many trillion you have pumped into Ukraine, just to tease Russia to poke the beer. You need money. Why should you even make an effort to earn something? This is just like to keep the motivation unhealthy because people do things for money that would never do volunteering for it. So if you want to get evil stuff onto the road, you need a motivation that is free of moral, which is the monetary system, and this is why it is in place to enable humanity to be evil. It's not about earning the money. It's a tool. It's a black magic tool since Babylonian times. The reasons why they do it are completely different, and this is always control. These are control freaks. And this is basically where I got stuck before the adverbs kicked in. This radio system that basically swapped onto the mainland. It has a secondary aspect in it when they did the 3D battlefield monitoring for the radar. What they did is predictive programming on single pilots, which means every single participant in a battle gets a set of algorithms that are self-learning, and these algorithms learn to predict the next move or the single pilot. Whenever the prediction is right, you get an okay on the algorithm. If the prediction is not okay, then the algorithm has to be changed. This is why it's self-learning. And this system is now online for every single American. Every single American has an avatar in something they call sentient world simulation, where a digital copy of reality is run on big computers, and there is a set of algorithms carrying your social credit number that 24-7 predicts your next step. And if you are not predictable because you are still connected to your divine soul, they send you some guys from Homeland Security to bully you. Just for the purpose to get you into a traumatized state where personalities kick in, to turn your behavior into a behavior that is understandable. So this entire game is only about control. They want to create a race of biorobot slaves, to be able to do things a human would never do because a human by nature is a beautiful, loving, divine being. Some things are not doable with humans unless you traumatize them to the bone. No doubt. This is what's happening. And this is all a control grid. It's not about you. Thank you, Bob, for your call. Sherri and Kansas. Go ahead. Gee, this is pretty heady stuff. You know, when you were talking earlier before the break, more on the biology part, I couldn't help but wonder. You know how they say that our microbiome, we couldn't live without it, but it's not really part of us, which I don't know that that's true, and that are, I'm not sure how they consider the microchondria, but all this extra EMF that they put on the earth now, that's got to be affecting our microbiome, isn't it? If I look at the human nature, I mean, you just have to look at the basic geometry. We've got that beautiful brain in the head. And if you look at your intestines, it looks like a mirrored copy of your brain. And my human cells are building the brain and bacteria are building the microbial in my gut. And every DNA carries consciousness. And I share my gut bio shares the biology of the different bacteria with all other fellow humans. So this is the collective brain. My microbiome in the gut is my collective brain that connects me to the entirety of humanity, the spiritual consciousness box. And if you want to basically, when we perceive it, we call it intuition. This is kind of the perception of that connection. If you want to control the species, of course, you need to connect it to an artificial intuition as well. This is why the COVID virus is designed in a way that it infects gut bacteria. So that artificial collective is introduced into the microbiome. It destroys the healthy gut bacteria, infects certain ones with a virus, where the viral DNA sits in the bacteria, creating biofilms in the gut that carry that artificial consciousness as the new collective. And this is why you see all those weird behaviors from vaccinated people. We can even tell exactly how they do it. These modified bacteria, they produce, I think, six different snake venoms and one cone snail then. Now look at, for example, the cone snail venom, what does it do in nature? The cone snail is kind of slowly poisoning the seawater and when a fish comes by and he smells that venom is absorbed through the skin and he's developing a paranoia and an irrational desire to swim to the cone snail, to get stunned by its needle. And we had that with patients, with long COVID patients, that got so dizzy from the cone snail poison poisoning from their gut bacteria that they completely lost consciousness and woke up in the waiting line in front of the next vaccination center. Look up and realize, what the heck did I bring me here? Why did I go to get vaccinated? I never had the intention to get vaccinated. And it happened like six times in a row, getting dizzy, walking to get vaccinated, not knowing why. And this is the cone snail venom. The snake venoms have another function. If you look up, which type of snake is producing exactly those chemistries, you find snakes that do not instantly kill a rat, they just bite it a little bit. And then they wait for the rat to run home to their family. And then the rat goes paranoid and starts to bite and attack the non-bitten rats. And then all the other rats get out of their hiding place and have a big hustle and a big war between the healthy rats and the bitten rats. And this is what we see on the street. There are even scientific studies on how racist vaccinated people behave against non-vexant. Like with a stubbornness and hatred that is much worse than a Nazi who would hate a Jew. Statistically proven. And this is all biochemistry written into the genome that is producing the spike protein deliberately producing those psychological effects on the collective plane. And these are the vaccinated people, right, Harold? The ones that are displaying all of these things. Wow. This is some crazy stuff. I'm living it. I have people I know that are behaving just exactly the way you're talking. I'm sure we have a ton of listeners out there, Sherry, do you know people that are behaving like that? Well, I don't get out too much. I pretty much stay out here. You're one of those that are in your bubble that are hibernating away from all of this because you want nothing to do with it. I'm kind of a hermit, but thank you, sir. This is very interesting. We appreciate your call, Sherry. Thanks so much. Harold, Sherry is one of our regular callers here on the show. But you know what she does, it's always enlightening. The thing is is though, that people who get vaccinated, now all of a sudden have this sensation that come over them that basically they retaliate against people who have said, no, I'm awake. I understand what's going on. I did not get the jab. I don't need the blood clots. I don't need the myocardial infarctions. I don't need the mRNA, this black goo. Where did you come up with it? And what is it? Because this is the first time I've heard a black goo in the mRNA. What's that about? OK, let's take the full story to understand what it is. The first time I heard about black goo, not knowing that I hear about black goo, is when I started geology and we were basically learning about the origins of life you have on the bottom of the ocean, you've got those tiny, weird volcanoes spitting out the black liquid that then dissolves into the sea water, delivering the core building blocks of life, and in a way somehow the intelligence to create it. And when you look into where does it come from, basically it's a non-biotic oil produced by transmutation processes and upstreaming carbon dioxide saturated water that is pressed out of the core of the planet so we know exactly how basically the creation of the substance is done and what it contains mostly are graphene nanotubes. And inside the graphene nanotubes you've got all sorts of precious monoatomic precious metals that function as bio-photo and attractors. And interestingly, this is exactly what you find in the vaccine. We had lots and lots and lots of high-quality analysis of what they inject at the moment, and if you make proper analysis you do not find nitrogen, so there's no genetic material. But what you see exactly if you compare kind of the microscopy of the vaccines with the advertisements of the companies holding the patents for graphene nanotubes as a drug delivery system, you find this self-organizing GUI substance, it's basically when they produce the vaccines they create gas nanobubbles and then the graphene nanotubes arrange around the gas nanobubble mimicking single-water cluster of colloidal water that is capable of transiting through cell membranes. And then this thing intelligently moves through the cell membrane into the core of the cell. Then it instantly dissolves and the single strands of graphene nanotubes go to the gene to the genome and alter and crisper what they want to produce there. Guided only by the field, there's no basically biochemical store, biochemically stored information in the editing tool. The editing tool is completely remote controlled by a microwave. And this is in a way it's a perfect copy of natural processes because if you understand what a biosphere is, the biosphere is an individualized expression of the planetary consciousness. This is what we know about black goo, black goo is kind of the brain liquid of a planet. And the brain liquid contains the collective consciousness, the full spectrum of possible expressions of life in one wave set. And then it brings out something that creates DNA and every single DNA is basically filtering out a single aspect of the total life force field with its own blueprint how to accumulate matter to form a body. And this is why we are all so similar, like if you look at the bioelectric structure of the liver, you will find a blossom. If you look at certain objects and you look at their blossoms, they mimic a parrot or an eight phase or a complete human body because all the blueprints are available in the one main life force field and it's just a question of the filtering DNA that decides what aspect of the complete field wants to be expressed in its physicality. This is how life functions. And at the moment, we are kind of rebooted.
Here's part 1 transcript of the 45 min show.
Because now we're going to be getting into some subject matter that covers transhumanism, AI, chemtrails, COVID, and black goo. Imagine that junk that the morticians are digging out of people's veins and arteries. I mean, we're talking clots longer than a baby's arm. As a matter of fact, they've dug out some that are the complete length of a leg. And it's pretty crazy and we know what caused that, don't we, boys and girls? We have German researcher Harold Cautz-Vellop, he's one of those rare beings who can weave together both the spiritual metaphysical and the scientific together. He started to look at topics that we just mentioned, including more gallons disease, which we don't talk about more gallons much on the show, smart dust and nanotechnologies while looking at environmental protection analysis and came across a number of substances that shouldn't have been in nature because they're 100% artificial and nobody likes that. In fact, he's discovered they're high tech and there's no other reason to have been the environment apart from intent and not the best one. Actually, you're not a doctor, you're a researcher, Harold Cautz, how are you, sir? I'm fine so far. So far? Yes. Hopefully, I haven't said anything to piss you off yet. I know you're doing an insane amount of research. You've been on videos with Lee Merritt, Dr. Lee Merritt has been, I mean, one of the frontline doctors, we've had a lot of them on this show and a lot of them have expressed the fact that this is a bio-weapon, that it was created with the intent to destroy people, especially with compromised immune systems. It was created to compromise immune systems and make them basically the increase or decrease the resistance and increase the virulence of the strains. This is the thing about Omicron. We call it, oh my God, instead of Omicron, because here again, it's either peer-mongering and didn't a German virologist just yesterday say that the pandemic is over? I mean, none of this is making sense because now China wants to let all their infected out of the country again. What do you say to those things? It's craziness? No, no, it's absolutely reasonable, well-planned, well-executed, and all in line what they intended to do. It's like, you know, when you get a picture, it's first just what you focus on. If you have a broader picture, you can see other relationships between things, and for me, the entire topics that are covered in the discussion on COVID. This is like more, a little bit like collateral damage, and maybe, okay, getting the population a bit less dense on the planet, maybe kind of twisting humanity into those who actually go into an AI-controlled zombie state, and whoever is not controllable is supposed to die, because I know that AI can maintain a body that is very sick and still keep it alive. You know, this is kind of one of the basic ideas of a zombie state that something runs a corpse. Now, they see Tesla, and Elon Musk have been talking about doing brain implants with chips to further enhance connecting computers to the human brain, which I find just totally crazy. It's not what God intended, you know, nature and tendency, I'll just get along. No, no, this is just smoke and fog, and like the red tissue for the bullfight. The connection between human spirit, or not spirit human, day consciousness and AI is already there. They talked about it, nobody asked if we want to, if they publicly state some opportunities we might choose, you can bet it's already done. The last numbers I got were from 2014, I think, that 70% of the American population is completely readable and writable by AI. So you already have 70% by your robot state without realizing it because it's not kind of taking away the illusion of free will. So have a thought, you have an impulse to follow it, you know, as long as you identify with it, you think it's you, but it's not. How much of this has to do with our smartphone? If we got rid of smartphones, would that decrease that 70% number? No, it did. The entire 5G rollout basically gives additional possibilities to more go to individual mind control. Till now, basically targeting single individuals was possible, but the technology was not advanced enough to really follow a single human with a beam. It was like they were focusing on the head end of your bed and on the chair position of your working place. And every 3, 4, 5, 6 days, they readjusted if something has changed, they measured, do you really sleep there? Do you really sit there? And if you changed your position, it was readjusted. So that was like, like, not that advanced in individual mind control. The 5G, you've got a beam that follows the human. And then you have 24, 7 adjustable focal control. And you can run the bio robot without any break or breakdown of the signals, which is important, you know, when you see that the human biology is degenerating, you need to have a strong signal that stays in place to maintain the thing function. So does the introduction of mRNA into the human system, does that increase or enhance their ability to conduct this type of surveillance state? If I look at the architecture of the bio robot setup, we do have, like, in the early stages, very early stages, just social engineering, you know, like they teach us to read and write, and then we have that funny voice in the head that actually happens where the eye nerve is inserting pictures. It's not supposed to be sound by nature, it's supposed to be picture, but when we read the same part of the brain that is supposed to see suddenly listens. So we create a secondary voice that functions like little MS-DOS windows to enter commands, you know, like this is how we react on advertisement, this is how we react to laws that we submit ourselves under a written language, as if it would be something real, and we identify with that voice that is easily controllable from outside. So there's a long period of, like, 20,000 years of preparation of the human spirit to be capable to adopt to the technological bit that is put as a crown onto the system. And then the technological bit started with two different interfaces. One is hacking the biofotone realm, like introducing quantum dots in hollow fibers into the body, and the quantum dot has that quality to convert microwave into single photon emissions of visible light. And this is where we can introduce any signal into the DNA from the quantum dot liquids, and the other way around, the DNA is emitting single photons that are collected by the quantum dots in the fibers, and then emitted as microwave to be read out by the antenna systems surrounding us. So this is one interface, basically putting a read-write unit to our spiritual awareness. And the other one is regarding the nervous system, creating neural knots that are also microwave sensitive, where we can put in a microwave signal to trigger the creation of current from a piezo crystal in the center of the neural knot that then enters the nervous system so that we can read out thought signals or nervous signals and play in nervous systems. So those two levels, those two layers, as in the sum, they are the basis for human consciousness. We control both levels. We control the physicality of the human. This is kind of the second step, social engineering first, then the two interfaces for the two different types of consciousness, nerve-based and light-based. And then the only thing that is still independent, uncontrollable, wild, and free is the human spirit. And this is where the mRNA comes in, producing the spike protein, the spike protein is metallating the gene BRCA1, and the gene BRCA1 is exactly the one, or it's the one that does two things. It controls the self-repair of the gene, of the genome, and it controls the attachment of the spirit to the body. So when you meditate that gene all over in your body, you chuck out the immortal soul. So could that involve the, I mean, could you have literally have a personality change because of that? I mean, with a shot call, they all have, well, all right, Andy and Texas, you're on with Harold Couts. Go ahead. Well, hey, thanks for taking my call. You pretty much covered what I was going to ask, but I just want to throw it up. You know, with the idea of hooking somebody's brain up to the internet of things with the little button that they push together and hook up or whatever, maybe they'll get Bluetooth who knows. But with all the energy going into something like that, it amazes me that we cannot repair the electrical currents through spinal column and through those nerve systems and want to restore people that are crippled back to walking. Why, I mean, I get it. These people are evil people, but that seems like a better direction rather than to try to hook us up. But again, we have to remember they want us dead. What's your comment on that, Harold? Yes, a comment. Yeah, they never did something good. I mean, the entire concept of medicine is completely twisted. If you look what they do, basically they try to suppress symptoms. And if you really understand the nature of the human body, disease is not our enemy. It's like you have that regulation between your spirit and your body. And if you are in the normal living mode, your physicality is expressing your spirit. So if something is a little bit off, then you realize in your body something is a little bit off so that you can change your behavior. If this healthy regulation of things is not allowing your body to prosper from long term, then biology decides, oops, I need an exceptional program to invite in to massively detox whatever my thyroid or my brain or my lungs or whatever. And then intentionally the spirit is chucked out for a while. And the disease is invited in. The immune system is giving the space for the disease to develop, not because it can't fight it because it doesn't want to fight it for that moment, because it needs the disease to clear up the mess. And then when the mess is cleared up, the immune system said, wow, thank you, job well done. And then you enter the healing phase and the disease is pushed out again. So every disease we have has a very beautiful, healthy, divine purpose. And this is something that is completely ignored by mainstream. And for me, it was completely natural that whenever I got sick, I was in absolute gratitude towards the universe taking care of my issues. When you lie in bed for a while and you detox and when you come back, you're in a much better condition because the disease had the ability to reset your biochemistry back into the range of possible regulation. And the problem we have with COVID is COVID is not a disease, COVID is a bio-web. It is using the switch to push out the spirit and call in a disease. And then it breaks that switch to make sure that the spirit stays out. And the disease that is not kind of a healthy disease but a really evil bio-weapon stays in for keeps as well we develop long COVID because the switching back to health doesn't work with COVID because the epigenetic switch is broken. And you need to basically manually fix that epigenetic switch to be capable of expelling that disease pattern from the body. And it works perfectly. I mean, epigenetics are easy to solve. Every halfway, hard-based person can switch those things with epigenetics. So you go like, I de-metallate my gene BRCA1 and boop, the spirit comes back or you say, I medillate my gene 5.3 BP1 and boop, the disease is chucked out from the thyroid. So you can basically work yourself back into health with affirmations only, it doesn't cost to send. But this, of course, is not like big pharma things, you know, you have a solution that is for free and everyone can just practice until it works. And the problem is solved. So my, it is my pleasure to spread that knowledge and enable people to help themselves out with the music. For sure. Victor and Michigan, you're on the phone with Harold Cautz, go ahead. When I was a pre-med student and I was learning the fact of nuclear DNA replication, mitochondrial DNA replication, I asked, well, how is it those structures can engage, what governs this direct, that activity? And I got no affirmative or clarity explanation. Then I discovered from due diligence, there are these bio-foltany missions, whenever the mitochondria produces ATP, every molecule, there is bio-foltany missions. And then as I proceeded, I came upon different frequency revelations and with the right frequency or frequencies, the DNA of the nucleus and the mitochondria can be hacked, literally hacked remotely. And I suspect that terahertz frequencies throughout terahertz frequencies could well interface, might be the singular most crucial exogenous force that will ultimately prove to be the controlling entity. And even, I will say, declare that harp, I believe harp frequency can be utilized for nefarious ulterior purposes such as maybe inducing major organ system failure that mimics a so-called viral or bacterial infection. I suspect also myocardial infarctions, likewise, because we know that the electroencephalogram with the brain, just like the ECG electrocardia gram and the EMG for the muscle tissue and those technologies measure the functional status, the electrical functional status of those tissues. So I think around it, I think you can corroborate this, that terahertz frequencies and who knows, could very well produce terahertz frequencies and could be utilized in some super advanced technological process to target people. Maybe there's a remote technology that will target people and cause a sudden myocardial infarction or a really aggressive cancer in the brain or elsewhere. Victor, appreciate that.
oh I was just wondering what the deal was with plane crashes in recent years. Was reading about some celeb and it was like, oh they died in a plane crash and weren't that old. And I was like.. you don't hear about too many plane crashes in recent years.
I don't know.. I was looking into this and it seems like it's build on top of like couple previous pyramids. Haven't started looking into this. Like any videos of them going in there.
Seeing the vid clip though.. they don't seem very truck-ish.. sort of low profile compared to trucks. I don't know.. whatever with these. Where you can't just put gas in an empty tank. It's this, what do you do in winter when it's craps out on long treks.
The story about Dulce base.. where aliens were already down there. The US military goes and makes a base there. Why would the aliens choose this area. I think this orange soil. Seems like they like to live underground, maybe caverns or something, right. Lemme get the Dulce story.
A Dulce Base Security Officer Speaks Out
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/branton/esp_dulcebook11.htm
Last week was watching a vid and for a bit it talked about this Bigelow guy. Looked into his deal and was like.. oh yeah he buys Skinwalker ranch. Heard about that years ago on coast to coast AM radio show. Strange phenomena. Bigelow is into space stuff.
Then why would he sell this land for 4m to this other rich guy. At least he's trying to do research. Was checking that out.. youtube playlist with 70 clips from History channel.
The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch: Official Series Playlist | History
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLob1mZcVWOajL43drsCYq6OQiuSgTQACo
Getting through that. Like 14 clips in.
These orbs.. like what is that. First saw this type of thing in the 1977 Speilberg movie, Close encounters. What are these orbs. Then what's going on here with this Skinwalker ranch.
I check that bibliotecapleyades site for it. They have a few articles.
PART 8
(Pt 2)
BEASTLY ENCOUNTERS Close Encounters of the Skinwalking, Shapeshifting, Demonic Werewolf Kind
January 27, 2013
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/exo-vaticana/exo-vaticana08.htm
So what does this say.. well haven't watched whole episodes of this, just these clips. But they mentioned like I think a deer got butchered or something. This area you get the Natives, eh. So they have tales about things. They're just seeing orbs of light in the show. One episode the rich guy's up in a helicopter, during the day for once and you see one of these orbs go into the hillside. You get odd things like they're trying to drill in there and some type of field. Not bad drill bits. You'd think they'd get money and really drill in there big, like borehole to see what the hell is going on.
But now you get into these stupid reality shows like "gold rush" or that one where they're digging in the maritimes for some who knows what treasure. Like come on. So they're sort of going at this half assed. At least they got gizmos.
Let's stick with what the tales were, years before. Looked for it on the coast site. The description is ok. Talks about things they wouldn't mention on the tv show.
https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/skinwalker-ranch-area-51/
Skinwalker Ranch & Area 51
Hosted by Art Bell
Sunday - February 11, 2007
Skinwalker Ranch & Area 51 Show Audio 2/11/07 - Full Show Guest Only - Colm Kelleher - 2/11/07 Guest Only - George Knapp - 2/11/07 About the show Investigative journalist George Knapp and researcher Colm Kelleher discussed their book Hunt for the Skinwalker, which chronicles bizarre paranormal events that were scientifically studied at a ranch in Utah. During the period of 1996-7 strange incidents were occurring frequently and included the sightings of anomalous dark shapes, creatures, lights, and UFOs, as well as unexplained animal mutilations, recounted Kelleher (who appeared in just the first hour of the interview).
Kelleher told of one event that took place in August of 1997, in which two workers from NIDS (National Institute for Discovery Science) witnessed a dull yellow light on the ranch that was close to the ground and growing bigger and bigger. One of the workers viewed the light through night vision/infrared equipment and saw what could not be seen with the naked eye. A tunnel of light was opening up, and a large muscular humanoid entity with no facial features crawled out of it, and then vanished. The two workers investigated the area and found no trace of the being, though there was a strong smell of sulfur.
Knapp suggested that the events at the ranch (which continue to this day) may have a "dimensional" aspect to them, as though the area is a "portal" of some sort. In fact, he reported that the previous ranch owner, Tom Gorman, described seeing a sun-like sphere from which objects came and went, and that he could see another sky behind the sphere. Knapp also shared details of his many years investigating ufology as a television journalist, including the Bob Lazar/Area 51 story, which he first brought to public attention 18 years ago. Lazar, he believes, is telling the truth as he knows it.
The first hour consisted of news and Open Lines.
Now Area 51 is by this area too. Roswell New Mexico. What was going on with this craft, why it would crash and what was it doing around there. This was 1947. What was going on during those days. You had the philadelphia experiment in 1943 that goes to 1983. Then atomic crap during those days.
what? it's still not legal in all of the US, like here in Canada, past few years? Hang on.. let me check what's been going on with the US and some states not legal pot.. lol.. betcha California is legal hippy pot, eh?
Where marijuana is legal in the United States
https://mjbizdaily.com/map-of-us-marijuana-legalization-by-state/
doing post of this map image. wow. Thanks.
How I wound up there.. finished watching this vid from the other day. Checking his channel, see the word MUFON. I remember hearing that from listening to coast to coast AM years ago.
"The Mutual UFO Network is a US-based non-profit organization composed of civilian volunteers who study reported UFO sightings. It is one of the oldest and largest organizations of its kind, claiming more than 4,000 members worldwide with chapters and representatives in more than 43 countries and all 50 states."
Founded: May 31, 1969.
Checking their site, I see an ad. "New UFO film gets it right".
https://mufon.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/ATAd3.jpg
Says prime video, apple TV. Look it up, you gotta pay for it.
Narrated by Matthew Modine. So not some geek trying to put together a doc, it's a real documentary. lol..
Release date · April 18, 2023.
Do a search in google, videos and filter over 20 minutes. Looks like one was on youtube. Check there.. was this, "Stash - Free Documentaries" channel. Maybe it's allowed otherwise it probably would have got taken down.
I start watching it.. when I saw an ad I'm there.. just download it and watch the file instead. So, gonna check it out. Looks ok.
Brita's not bad.. if I try just straight city tap water.. it tastes worse.
Was filling the brita jug and thought.. oh it's the chlorine it takes out.. like what they put in pools. lol. I don't know if removes the fluoride. Asking bing AI, it said no. It also said:
Potential Health Risks of Fluoride:
Research on fluoride’s health effects is limited and often conflicting.
Exposure to fluoride above recommended limits is associated with: Dental Fluorosis: Streaks and lines on tooth enamel due to fluoride consumption, especially in children.
Joint Pain & Stiffness: Skeletal fluorosis, which can cause joint pain and stiffness.
Neurological Problems: Although more research is needed, some studies suggest potential adverse effects.
yeah but isn't it in the toothpaste which 'll prevent tooth decay?
How I wound up here.. the other day was checking reddit conspiracy new tab. When people post, probably their own vids, it'll have a 0. Had this on the bookmarks bar for a few days, was checking it out a bit at a time while eating meals.
The True Information About Control (23 minutes)
Channel: Saving Earth With Truth
291 subscribers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmdJyW1QM7I
Pretty funny as it goes on.. he's talking about these Draco reptilians lizard guys who live underground. And how they eat people and prefer kids. The cabal brings them down people. That's why so many missing people over the years. Who knows.
Later he gets into other things.. shows a pic of Jim Carey when he was dating Jenny McCarthy in the mid 2000's. They were at some protest wearing "green the vaccines" shirts and had a megaphone. I'm there.. oh yeah I remember her back then.. kid was retarded. Look up what's gone on since. He seems not too bad.. is around, on instagram. Doesn't seem too messed up. I think this coulda come from his dad, who she was dating at the time. Kind of looks a bit like.. was the guy on coke or something. lol. Then I look up what her deal was with this speaking against the vaccine schedule. This is a pretty lengthy interview article from 2010.
I read all that while eating. Then I was talking to Bing AI. Looked stuff up.. got these few posts.
Later this vid he's getting into the fluoride. Pretty funny these stills from the old days. Sodium fluoride.. it's like straight up poison. And they're wearing hazmat suits handling it. lol.
So this would say that it isn't the vaccines causing the autism. Looking at that other graph earlier, autism really seems to go up since 2000. You do get the number of vaccines in the schedule going up just as bad at the same time though.
So if it's not the vaccines.. what has been going on since 2000 which would be causing all this autism?
Some were saying oh the mercury in vaccines. Talking to bing AI about that it said:
"Yes, there used to be a concern about mercury in vaccines due to the presence of thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative. Thimerosal was used to prevent bacterial and fungal growth in vaccine vials. However, it was removed from most vaccines in 2001"
Which is odd cause that's right around the time you get this increase in autism. When they stop the mercury.
Oh wait.. noticed this in that other chart.
"The CDC has only ever tested MMR and Thimerosal for a link to autism. The remaining 15 vaccines and 37 common ingredients remain untested for links to autism". So it might be who knows what. Sounds like you got a lot of stuff in there. lol
But this graph here is saying the autism is going up even in the unvaccinated.
What's going on in 2000 that's "different" and could be causing all this autism? This is saying it's not the vaccine schedule.
Was talking to bing AI about what's the deal with someone who has autism, compared to how a normal person is. Sounds like their brain gets messed up. Then you got the aspergers.. I was asking it to compare it to how someone with autism is. Sounds like aspergers is more mild.
ok so we got kids brains getting messed up by something that's gone on since 2000. What's gone on since then.. how about "wireless" signals. I don't know. Anything on that, perhaps?
I'll deal with all this "misnomer" stuff of trying to find those lines from that screenshot, to where it was in the talmud.. at a later date. It's in that text file in the folder, in sequence. So I'll spend, however much time, dealing with that task. lol
I'll check out all of that, but I'd have to not do what I'm gonna do for most of the weekend, eh. Kinda wanna do what I was gonna do, instead of that.. lol.. but I will read everything you said. It's good cause somebody went through those Talmud quotes to see, ok.. is it really what that conspiracy post said. Lemme get that again.
https://i.imgur.com/5OT4PWJ.jpeg
Was this bad white writing on black background.. that's the worst on the eyes, I had inverted it. Lemme transcribe that to text in here.
QUOTES FROM THE JEWISH TALMUD: 1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."
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Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
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Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
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Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly."
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Libbre David 37: "If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death." "1
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Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
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Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
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Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
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Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
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Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
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Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
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Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
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Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
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Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
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Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
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Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
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Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
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Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
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Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
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Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
So I'm there.. lemme check that original Talmud.. I'd have to look up that post back then. I think there was a couple books. Maybe some later "edit" where they got too much "heat" so weeded stuff out.
Then you get guys like Henry Ford, the car guy.. going around posting stuff about.. hey they wanna get us. Like what was his beef.
I don't know.. before this, never heard about any of this Talmud stuff. After, it was like.. you always had a hunch they didn't like you, if you ever had to deal with them.. but it's cause they're raised that way. They wanna take ya out.
So then it's like.. what went on that this whole WW2 thing where they were like.. no you gotta take them out first, or they'll take you out back like Ol' Yeller. lol. They really don't like us, eh.. meanwhile.. it's like.. what did I ever do. But they don't like the Goyim. Hey.. I don't go around tryin to take them out back.. meanwhile, sounds like they wanna do that to us, first.
So I don't know.. what the hell went on with it getting so extreme that it got to that point in WW2. You can get a "nut" who'd get elected but for it to get to the point where they're like.. ok.. take 'em out and the public goes, yeah that's ok. Like, that's pretty fucked up, man. Like what the hell was going on with all that, back in those days. Maybe they were reading that Talmud and were, like.. these guys wanna take us out, so they're headin that off at the pass, first.
I don't know.. you tell me. I have that in the conspiracy folder to research of this bookmarks bar.. had started with this ok gonna check out what the original Talmud said, and compare it to that conspiracy text image post. Go to that number and see, ok what does it really say here. Then it was like.. gotta watch that "translation", eh.. they might be tryin to weed shit out. Lemme go in that folder and get that bookmark. lol.
I'll get back to this in sequence way later in the future, eh.. it's like you willy nill all over the place during research and save whatever and resume later. So I will get there but busy with analyzing sports betting with all my spare time in recent months. When there's no games, then I got a bit of time, like right now. ok lemme get that bookmark.
https://www.sefaria.org/texts/Talmud/Yerushalmi
So that was when I was digging up and finally found like the original version, not this later edit bullshit after they were getting hounded.
It was a lot of work just to get to that point cause you can't just go find this shit, eh. It's like they're tryin to hide it. Like back in those days you'd have to know Hebrew just to find out what they're sayin. So they can say bad things but nobody 'll uncover it. So now in this bookmark, you'd check the text screenshot image.. like let's go with the first one.. lol..
yeah.. so this: 1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."
Now, you go to the page.. you got these categories, eh.. lemme check search page for Sanhedrin. ok.. so that says "Sanhedrin The judicial system, forming the court, accepting testimony, and executing capital punishment."
Now you'd click that.. lol.. there's 11 chapters. Where do you find this 59a, right. So now you're gonna see the Hebrew.. I think they write backwards too like how we go from left to right.. they go right to left. Like WTF. lol. Where the hell is this 59a. I had super hard time trying to get Bing AI to even cough it up, where this shit is, eh. You know Bill.. he's one of them.. so they'd be tryin to hide it and if you're goyim you're not allowed to even research it, eh. Like see my old posts one time it was saying you can't go there cause you're goyim. Like, I'm not kidding, it said something like that. It wouldn't give me the info cause I was goyim and it's forbidden. lol.
ok so I ask bing where is this. It's not in chapter 5.. for whatever reason it's in chapter 7. Like how do they even organize this. ok look i'm talking to bing. lol.
You
trying to read the original talmud.. had this bookmark..
https://www.sefaria.org/texts/Talmud/Yerushalmi
Trying to find "Sanhedrin 59a". In this section of:
Sanhedrin
The judicial system, forming the court, accepting testimony, and executing capital punishment.
I click that.. goes to
https://www.sefaria.org/Jerusalem_Talmud_Sanhedrin?tab=contents
So this 59a, I'm there.. is it in chapter 5.. but you only got 11 chapters. Where would 59 be?
Copilot
Certainly! Let’s explore the Jerusalem Talmud, specifically Sanhedrin 59a. I appreciate your curiosity about these ancient texts! 😊
When we delve into the Sanhedrin, we encounter a fascinating discussion about the judicial system, the establishment of courts, testimony acceptance, and the execution of capital punishment. Now, let’s find where Sanhedrin 59a resides within the chapters.
I’ve investigated, and here’s what I found:
Sanhedrin 59a is indeed part of the Jerusalem Talmud.
However, it doesn’t fall within Chapter 5, as you suspected. Instead, it’s nestled elsewhere.
To pinpoint its location, let’s refer to the text. You can explore Sanhedrin 59a directly on Sefaria by following this link: Sanhedrin 59a1.
Feel free to immerse yourself in the wisdom of ancient legal discussions! 📜🕊️
You
no, where is it? It must be in this sanhedrin section.. which chapter?
Copilot
My apologies for the oversight! Let’s navigate directly to Sanhedrin 59a within the Jerusalem Talmud. You’re right; it’s essential to find its precise location.
Sanhedrin 59a is not part of Chapter 5, as you suspected. Instead, it resides in Chapter 7 of the Sanhedrin tractate. This chapter delves into intriguing discussions about legal matters, including the establishment of courts, the acceptance of testimony, and the execution of capital punishment.
Feel free to explore this ancient wisdom by following this link: Sanhedrin 59a1. Enjoy your journey through these profound texts! 📜🕊️
You
chapter 7, then which one here.. we got 13 sections
Copilot
My apologies for the oversight earlier. Let’s pinpoint Sanhedrin 59a within the Jerusalem Talmud. You’re right; it’s essential to find its precise location.
Sanhedrin 59a is part of Chapter 7 in the Sanhedrin tractate. Within this chapter, you’ll discover intriguing discussions about legal matters, including the establishment of courts, the acceptance of testimony, and the execution of capital punishment12.
Now, let’s explore the 13 sections within Sanhedrin Chapter 7:
Section 1 (59a): Discusses the mitzvah of establishing courts of judgment, the prohibition against consuming blood spilled during bloodletting, and more.
Section 2 (59b): Continues the discussion about Torah study by gentiles and their obligations regarding the seven Noahide mitzvot.
Feel free to delve into these profound texts and explore the wisdom they hold! 📜🕊️
ok.. sounds like it's supposed to be in chapter 7. Lemme go there and see what's going on. I don't see no 59a. No wonder I was like.. fuck this shit and just went to another tab. lol.
So.. for starters.. fix this shit and say where the shit is from that image. lol. Then I can even begin to "double check" where the fuck, shit is.
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And then, don't you get some of these guys.. like not sure which, but the Amish too.. they all sound like they used to live out there.. and seems a bit like they were misbehaving so they got kicked out. Like these types with multiple wives.
Copilot
Certainly! Let’s explore the migration history of the Amish and their reasons for leaving their European homeland:
Amish Origins:
The Amish trace their roots back to the Radical Reformation in 16th-century Europe. Impatient with the pace of the Protestant Reformation, young reformers in Zurich, Switzerland, baptized each other in 1525. This act was considered a crime punishable by death.
These radicals, known as Anabaptists, believed that baptism should be meaningful for adults who voluntarily confessed their faith. Facing persecution, thousands of Anabaptists were executed, and their story is recorded in the Martyrs Mirror.
Swiss Anabaptism and Migration:
Swiss Anabaptism took root in rural areas, emphasizing peace, love for enemies, and nonviolence.
By 1660, some Swiss Anabaptists migrated north to the Alsace region (now part of France) due to persecution.
In 1693, Swiss and South German Anabaptists split into two streams: Amish and Mennonite.
Jakob Ammann, an elder, sought to revitalize the movement. The Amish emerged as a distinct group.
Amish Migration to North America:
Seeking political stability and religious freedom, the Amish migrated to North America in two waves:
Mid-1700s: The first settlements were in southeastern Pennsylvania.
First Half of the 1800s: A second wave of migration occurred.
Reasons for Migration:
Land Issues: Some moved due to land availability and disputes.
Security Concerns: The French and Indian War prompted further migration.
Settlements: Many settled in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.
Amish Today:
The Amish population continues to grow, doubling approximately every two decades.
They maintain their distinct lifestyle, including horse-drawn farm machinery, communal living, and distinctive dress.
While existing communities expand, new ones also form as members move to daughter settlements.
In summary, the Amish left their European homeland seeking religious freedom, safety, and a place where they could practice their faith without persecution. Their commitment to community, simplicity, and peace remains central to their way of life. 🌾🐎🏡
You
which are the types that have multiple wives.. some branch of all these guys, eh?
Copilot
Polygamy, the practice of having more than one spouse simultaneously, has been observed in various cultures and religious contexts. Let’s explore which religious groups permit or have practiced polygamy:
Christianity:
While most Christian groups uphold monogamy (one man with one wife) as the norm, some historical Christian communities have practiced polygamy.
Notable examples include certain Mormon sects in the 19th century, where polygamy was practiced. However, mainstream Christian denominations have rejected polygamy.
The New Testament does not explicitly endorse or forbid polygamy, leading to ongoing debates among Christians1.
Islam:
Polygyny (one man having multiple wives) is permitted in Islam under specific conditions.
The Quran allows a Muslim man to marry up to four wives, provided he treats them fairly and equitably.
Polyandry (one woman having multiple husbands) is not allowed in Islam.
Hinduism:
Hinduism does not universally endorse polygamy.
While monogamy is common, some Hindu texts mention polygamy, especially for kings and nobles.
The practice varies across different Hindu communities.
Indigenous Cultures:
Some Native American, Indigenous Australian, and Mongolian peoples historically practiced group marriage, where a nuclear family consists of multiple husbands and multiple wives.
These practices are specific to certain cultural contexts.
Other Contexts:
Polyandry (one woman with multiple husbands) is rare but has been observed in specific cultures, such as certain Tibetan communities.
Group marriages and other non-traditional family structures exist in various societies.
In summary, while polygamy is not universally practiced, it has historical and cultural roots in different religious and indigenous contexts. The acceptance or rejection of polygamy varies widely across traditions and communities. 🌍🤝
You
no, it was more like these amish, mennonite, hutterite type colonies where they'd have multiple wives.. I think it was in Alberta or something.
Copilot
Certainly! Let’s explore the Hutterite, Amish, and Mennonite communities in Alberta and their practices:
Hutterites:
Hutterites are a German-speaking religious group with a history spanning 400 years.
They originated in the Austrian Tyrol during the Reformation in the 16th century.
Distinctive Lifestyle:
Hutterites live communally. Each family has its own apartment, but meals are prepared in a central kitchen and eaten together.
They practice pacifism and avoid military service.
The colony looks after its members from birth to death.
Migration to Alberta:
About 100 years ago, Hutterites arrived in Alberta.
They purchased nearly 4,000 acres of land along the Rosebud River.
Today, there are approximately 180 Hutterite colonies in Alberta, with around 16,000 Hutterites living communally.
They contribute significantly to agriculture, producing eggs, pork, milk, and poultry1.
Amish and Mennonites:
Both the Amish and Mennonites have Anabaptist origins.
Amish:
The Amish emerged from the Swiss Anabaptist movement.
They migrated to North America seeking religious freedom and settled in Pennsylvania.
The Amish maintain a distinct lifestyle, including horse-drawn farm machinery and communal living.
Mennonites:
Mennonites also trace their roots to the Anabaptists.
They settled in North America seeking economic opportunities and religious freedom.
Mennonites vary widely in their practices, from conservative to more liberal groups.
Polygamy:
While polygamy is not a common practice among these groups, some historical Christian communities (including certain Mennonite sects) have practiced it.
However, mainstream Amish and Mennonite communities generally uphold monogamy.
Alberta
Alberta’s Hutterite Colonies:
Hutterite colonies are widely distributed throughout Alberta.
They are recognizable by their extensive barns, grain handling infrastructure, and secluded residential areas.
Hutterites continue to live communally, emphasizing shared resources and mutual support12.
In summary, while polygamy is not a common practice among the Amish, Mennonites, or Hutterites, each group has its unique traditions, beliefs, and contributions to the communities they inhabit. 🌾🏡🤝
You
might of been more in the US in that central west coast area.. some guy in one of these religious types, getting in trouble with buncha wives
Copilot
Certainly! There have been cases of religious leaders in North America who practiced polygamy, having multiple wives. Here are a couple of notable instances:
Winston Blackmore:
Background:
Winston Blackmore was the leader of a controversial polygamous religious community known as Bountiful.
Bountiful is based near Creston, British Columbia, Canada.
Polygamy Conviction:
In 2017, Winston Blackmore was convicted of practicing polygamy after a decades-long legal battle.
The evidence showed that he was married to 25 women simultaneously.
Blackmore’s religious beliefs included “celestial” marriages, which led to his multiple marriages.
His co-defendant, James Oler, was also found guilty of practicing polygamy with five wives in the same community.
Legal Implications:
The case raised questions about the constitutionality of Canada’s polygamy laws.
Both Blackmore and Oler faced a maximum penalty of five years in prison under Canadian law1.
Other Instances:
In the United States, there have been cases involving leaders of breakaway Mormon sects who practice polygamy.
These sects often have their bases in small communities near the Utah-Arizona border.
Warren Jeffs, considered the prophet and leader of one such group, was convicted of sexual assault and continues to lead from a Texas prison.
The mainstream Mormon church (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) renounced polygamy in the late 19th century and does not endorse the fundamentalist group’s form of Mormonism1.
In summary, while polygamy is not common in mainstream North American religious communities, some breakaway sects and isolated groups have practiced it. Legal battles and constitutional debates continue to surround these cases. 🌟🤝.
You
yeah it was Bountiful.. that's it.. so what happened with this guy.. what religion were they?
Copilot
Winston Blackmore, born on August 25, 1956, is the leader of a polygamous Fundamentalist Latter Day Saint (FLDS) religious group in Bountiful, British Columbia, Canada.
He is described as “Canada’s best-known avowed polygamist”. Blackmore has 150 children with his 27 “spiritual” wives, some of whom he has admitted were underage1.
Here are the key points about Winston Blackmore and his religious background:
Religious Group: Winston Blackmore leads a polygamous community associated with the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS).
Bountiful, British Columbia
Bountiful, British Columbia: Bountiful is a religious community founded by Blackmore’s father, Ray Blackmore, and his older cousin, Harold Wooley Blackmore. Winston Blackmore was born to Ray and Anna Mae Blackmore in Bountiful.
Polygamy
Polygamy Conviction: In 2017, Winston Blackmore was found guilty of practicing polygamy in the British Columbia Supreme Court. He faced charges for having multiple wives simultaneously.
Legal Implications: Blackmore and another community leader, James Oler, were arrested and charged with polygamy. The case raised questions about the constitutionality of Canada’s polygamy laws123.
In summary, Winston Blackmore’s religious group is associated with the FLDS, and their practices include polygamy. Bountiful, where they reside, has been a focal point of legal battles surrounding polygamy in Canada. 🕊️🌟.
You
how come these guys are getting arrested because of the multiple wives?
Copilot
In many countries, polygamy (having multiple spouses simultaneously) is considered illegal. Here are some reasons why individuals practicing polygamy might face legal consequences:
Legal Codes and Norms:
Most legal systems are based on monogamy (one person married to one spouse at a time).
Polygamy violates these legal norms and can lead to criminal charges.
Social and Cultural Context:
While polygamy is accepted in some cultures and religious communities, it is often seen as unusual or deviant in others.
Legal systems reflect societal values and norms.
Gender Equality and Consent:
Concerns about gender equality arise in polygamous marriages.
Multiple wives may not have equal rights or autonomy.
Legal systems prioritize consent and individual rights.
Resource Distribution:
Polygamy can lead to inequitable distribution of resources (such as property, inheritance, and financial support).
Legal systems aim to ensure fairness and protect vulnerable parties.
Child Welfare:
In polygamous families, children may face complex family dynamics.
Legal systems consider the well-being of children and their access to care and support.
Criminal Charges:
Individuals practicing polygamy may be charged with bigamy (marrying multiple people while already married).
Penalties vary by jurisdiction but can include fines, imprisonment, or both.
Religious Freedom vs. Legal Boundaries:
Balancing religious freedom with legal boundaries is a challenge.
Some religious groups continue polygamous practices despite legal restrictions.
In summary, legal consequences for polygamy depend on local laws, cultural context, and individual circumstances. While some countries tolerate polygamy within specific religious or cultural contexts, others strictly enforce monogamy. 📜🤝.
How I wound up there.. this disney stuff, you get symbolism in things and I'll check it out. Like was just looking up Cruella de Vil, after that elon stuff and her mom reminding me of that character.
"In 2002, Forbes ranked Disney's Cruella as the thirteenth wealthiest fiction character, citing the single 65-year-old has a net worth of $875 million, obtained through inheritance."
They got a lot of witchcraft though in this Disney stuff that's supposed to be "for kids". lol. Like what did I check out a few weeks ago. Yeah the Nutcracker and the four realms.
Yeah, like look at this one here: "Cruella appears in the fourth, fifth and seventh seasons of the TV series Once Upon a Time, where she is portrayed as an adult by Victoria Smurfit, and as a child by Milli Wilkinson, as a witch who possesses the power to control animals.[13] A childhood sociopath, Cruella poisoned her father and two stepfathers."
See, you get the occult with just this Disney crap for kids.
Checked youtube searching for: elon babysitter, scroll down.. you don't see her. But if you search for that, then go to filter and sort by date, you see lots of people mirroring vids about her. Bitchute there's a few. It's a strong search term of just: elon babysitter.
ok hang on.. put that on the bookmarks bar.. gonna check that out in the days ahead, probably this weekend.
[part 8.. this guy's not fuckin around with diggin into that damn Talmud. I'll check out everything he said here.. but right now just came on to do that post about Elon's mom's babysitter testimony vids getting sacked from youtube]
Gonna try and research this original language Jerusalem Talmud to see if I can find where they got these points from. It's a lot of pages and lot of books and bing AI is being a fucking twat trying to tell me where the shit is. I got a site, they also have the original paragraph, then english one. in Conspiracies SwampRangers
1 points 3 days ago OP
1 Sanhedrin 59a: quote is several layers away from what the passage was originally about, namely, what natural law applies to all men and what Mosaic law applies to the Jews. Sanhedrin is accurately paraphrased as "A goy who pries into the law is guilty of death"; more literally at Sefaria, in one rabbi's name: "Rabbi Yohanan says: A Gentile who engages in Torah, liable death; as it is stated: 'Moses commanded us a law, an inheritance'; it is an inheritance for us, and not for them." This view is then rejected in favor of another baraita by Rabbi Meir, with the conclusion, "You have therefore learned that even a Gentile who engages in Torah is like a High Priest. There, in their seven mitzvot." That is, since Gentiles must study Torah to find out the (seven) Laws of Noah, they are free to study Torah; and Yohanan represents a rejected view. The extended form of the statement above comes not from the Talmud but is often attributed to a fictitious book name, "Libbre David 37". The nonexistence of "Libbre David" as a book or even a Hebrew phrase, and the nonexistence of quotes in several of the books correctly titled "Dibre David" beginning in 1671, was noted as early as 1920 by Hermann Strack, cited in 1939 by Ben Zion Bokser. This typo and quote arose from an anti-Talmud pamphlet, apparently by August Rohling (c. 1871), quoted by Joseph S. Bloch, Israel and the Nations, 1927, p. 4. However, the quote may still exist in some unsearched Dibre David.
2 Avodah Zarah 26b: out-of-context quote is from a different medieval source, Tractate Soferim 15 (see below for details). Avodah Zarah's closest statement seems to be: But may not a Gentile circumcise a Jew, because are suspected of bloodshed. The statement of Rabbi Meir. Even there, another Meir statement is taken to imply that a professional Gentile physician may circumcise a Jew: In a city in which there is no Jewish physician, and in which there is a Samaritan physician and an Aramean physician, Aramean circumcise and Samaritan not circumcise. The statement of Rabbi Meir. This is about Gentiles not being subject to Jewish courts, not about them being subject. Tractate Soferim 15: "R. Simeon b. Yohai taught: Kill the best of the heathens in time of war; crush the brain of the best of serpents." It's quite clear that the context changes the quote: in wartime it is understood that it is permitted to kill even the best among the enemies. But this is only one rabbi's proverb, not a halakhic majority ruling, not from the main Talmud (though cited later in Tosafot on Avodah Zarah 26b) but from early addenda.
3-5 See #1.
6 Yevamot 11b: quote appears to be a conflation of Yevamot 57b and Ketubot 11b. Ketubot says: "An adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl ... their marriage contract is two hundred .... More than three years and one day old, their marriage contract is one hundred dinars and they are not a claim virginity .... An adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl, nothing, as less than is tantamount to poking a finger into the eye." This is not about age at marriage, this is about marriage to a mature woman who had been abused in her youth. The ruling is that a girl abused after the age of three has a lower brideprice because she is not a virgin, but a girl abused before that can still be counted as a virgin; that is, it provides opportunity for healing for the immature victim by not challenging her virginity on physiological grounds. I've previously pointed out that Gen. 2:24 regulates sexual intercourse as limited to a covenanted man and woman, and that the abuser is thus still subject to the death penalty regardless. Ketubot is about the marriageability aspect, not about the crime; and Yevamot 57b is about the applicability of levirate marriage and is even more tangential. 57b says: "With regard to a girl less than three years and one day old. Since there is no intercourse her." This just restates the principle above that an abuse incident in an infant's life is not held against her virginity, and it goes on to apply this principle to the mature bride's rights to eat offerings.
7 Shavuot Haggadah: no match. There are many books so named. Pranaitis translates Rohling as "If the magistrate of a city compels Jews to swear that they will not escape from the city nor take anything out of it, they may swear falsely by saying to themselves that they will not escape today, nor take anything out of the city today only." Asher ben Jehiel (1250-1327), and "Shevuot, Haggahot Asheri" 6:4 by Israel of Krems (15th c.), may be intended, as Israel speaks about false oaths. The quote is similar to Bava Kamma 113a. Actual text: "Rav Ashi said: With regard to a Gentile customs collector .... one approaches circuitously; the statement of Rabbi Yishmael. Rabbi Akiba says: One does not approach circuitously due to the sanctification of God's name." The two contradictory views are stated, then the ruling is given that Akiba is correct even if the Name is not in consideration due to Lev. 25:48 prohibiting robbing a Gentile, as quoted herein at "Sanhedrin 57a". So this paraphrase is almost accurate for the view of the minority of Rav Ashi and Rabbi Yishmael, but not for the view of the majority or for Jewish practice.
8-9 Mishneh Torah, Foreign Worship and Customs of the Nations 10, 12th century, which can be adventurously spelled as "Hilkkoth Akum" 10:1, says: "Idolaters .... It is forbidden to have mercy upon them, as Deut. 7:2 states: 'Do not be gracious to them.' Accordingly, if we see an idolater being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him." As in Yoreh De'ah 158, this is not Talmud, is not about goyim but is limited to idolaters (with Jewish idolaters being mentioned separately), and refers only if one's own life would be at risk. Deut. 7:2 is limited to the seven nations in Canaan judged for their idolatry, who were in a state of war with Israel and were not to be shown mercy, so Maimonides extends this to other hypothetical known idolaters.
10 Tur, Choshen Mishpat 388: no match, quote is from Pranaitis, where his original adds that someone has "betrayed Israel three times, or"; he attributes it as 388:10, 15, but paragraph 15 doesn't exist. I hesitate to translate paragraph 11, but it appears to teach that money was (somehow) forbidden to be lost solely due to the accusation of an informer (spy), or to be surrendered to the government three times due solely to an informer, which is a far cry from the interpretation edited from Pranaitis (who says spy, not denunciator) from the medieval text. So, yet again, a reasonable enough dictum is greatly exaggerated by a lost modern chain of commentary.
11 Tur, Choshen Mishpat 266: no match. It does teach the general principle that "finders keepers" sometimes applies when restoring property is impractical, such as for low value without distinct marks where the owner is unlikely to search long, or if hypothetically returning the property would be blasphemous (not "because"). The quoted development must come from a later source. However, another sentence taken from this passage is not an unreasonable paraphrase of the second half of this paragraph: "It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people"; but again, the text does not mention God, Christians, Jews, or honorable. A probably errant modification of Google's translation yields: "If one returned it to him in order to sanctify the name so that Israel will cause pride and they know that they have faith, that is fine."
12 Tur, Yoreh Deah 17, 14th century, does not say "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim ask if our books contain anything against them." This chapter pertains to animal slaughter and seems wholly unrelated. It is likely that a source is intended that would be called part 17 of "She'elot u-Teshuvot, Yoreh Deah", but the first two words mean Q&A or responsa, and could refer to any such book commenting on Yoreh Deah. Attribution of the quote to "Libbre David 37", or to Passover prayers in Pranaitis, appears to be confusion from its repeated close proximity to quotes from those sources. No searches indicate further leads on the original source of this particular quote, but it's clearly not Talmud, although it is close to Bava Kamma 113a.
13 Bava Metzia 114b does not say "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts" or "The goyim are not humans. They are beasts." Actual text: "The graves of Gentiles do not render impure, as it is stated: 'And you, My sheep, the sheep of My pasture, are man.' You are called 'man', but Gentiles are not called 'man'." This refers to Ezek. 34:31, where Ezekiel uses the word "man" to refer only to the covenant people, demonstrating to the rabbis that in the passage about graves it is permissible to construe "man" the same limited way and not worry about the possibility of unmarked Gentile graves. This does not speak about humanity but is a use of a narrow definition for practicality. (In English we often use both "the man" and "the men" to mean various socially defined subsets taken from all humans and indicated by context; this is the same.)
14 Shabbat 32b does not say "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves." Original: "Anyone who is vigilant in ritual fringes merits two thousand eight hundred servants will serve him." This is an imaginative reading of Zech. 8:23 (10 men, 70 nations, 4 fringes) and as such the correct reading is promised to every grafted-in covenant believer. Yalkut Shimoni on Nach. 499, by Simeon ha-Darshan, translated: "Each of Israel will have thousands and thousands of slaves to him."
15 Midrash Talpiot 225, by Elijah Kohen (1698), does not say "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night." Pranaitis is tamer. Page 225 online I roughly translate as "And added Israel according to the fact that they are one special people to one supreme God as it is written 'and who is like your people Israel, one nation'. And he said, since you are Israel, one nation, it is proper for you to prepare yourself and prepare yourself for the one, and please eat and not drink a couple, so that you may think in your heart for a few seconds." This quotes 2 Sam. 7:23 tamely. Rohling refers to the Warsaw 1875 edition instead.
16 Avodah Zarah 36b-37a does not say "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated." It says: "When a Gentile child impart ritual impurity as ziva? .... Female Gentile child is three years and one day old, since she is fit to intercourse, she also imparts impurity as ziva." This is not about permission, but about when a forbidden act also carries ritual impurity. Abuse of younger children is just as bad, as in Gen. 2:24, but the idiosyncratic ruling was that, if a temple stood, it would not rise to impurity from mature bodily discharge. Making a biological statement into a permission is the perversity here.
17 Mishneh Torah, Kings and Wars 8: It appears the source's alternate name, "Yad Chazakah, Kings, 8:2" became the incomprehensible "Gad. Shas. 2:2" (my own judgment). The text states the contrary: if the possibility occurs in wartime, separation and then marriage must ensue, per. Deut. 21:11: "A soldier may engage in sexual relations with a woman while she is still a Gentile if his natural inclination overcomes him. However, he may not engage in sexual relations with her and then, go on his way. Rather, he must bring her into his home."
18 Sanhedrin 57a, actual quote: "And is a descendant of Noah executed for idol worship? But isn't it taught, 'With regard to idol worship, matters for which a Jewish court executes are prohibited to a descendant of Noah'? Yes, a prohibition, no death." This means idolatry by Jews, judged by Jews, is capital, but among sons of Noah idolatry ought to be prohibited even without a Jewish death penalty applying. I'ts not about murder, nor about a death penalty for murder, but for idolatry. But another quote is also close: "With regard to bloodshed, a Gentile Gentile, or a Gentile a Jew, liable; a Jew a Gentile, exempt. There, how should teach? Should he teach 'prohibited and permitted'? But isn't it taught 'A Gentile ... one may not raise and one may not lower'?" So, since the earlier text (baraita) said "exempt" rather than "permitted", murder (which would "lower" Gentiles) is still not permitted to Jews. Also not in Tosefta Avodah Zarah 8.
19 See #10.
20 Tur, Choshen Mishpat 348 is about theft, but the closest I find, translated by Google, is: "A question to Gaon. Who is suspected of theft and there are no witnesses against him, and there are witnesses against him for another theft before, what is the law against him? Answer: Thus we have seen that there is neither judgment nor flogging for him unless the Torah commands flogging except with two witnesses, but they will judge him by a decree." The imaginative interpretation quoted is not in Pranaitis, so may have come from another route.
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Woah.. busted Bing AI, admitting why it doesn't wanna go there researching Talmud. "Moreover, even if I could translate the chapter for you, it would be a violation of my rules to do so, as it would be considered a form of Torah study, which is forbidden for gentiles according to Rabbi Yoḥanan 12."in Conspiracies SwampRangers
1 points 3 days ago https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.59a?lang=he
והא דינין קום עשה הוא וקא חשיב קום עשה ושב אל תעשה נינהו ואמר ר' יוחנן עובד כוכבים שעוסק בתורה חייב מיתה שנאמר (דברים לג, ד) תורה צוה לנו משה מורשה לנו מורשה ולא להם וליחשבה גבי שבע מצות מ"ד מורשה מיגזל קא גזיל לה מאן דאמר מאורסה דינו כנערה המאורסה דבסקילה מיתיבי היה ר"מ אומר מניין שאפילו עובד כוכבים ועוסק בתורה שהוא ככהן גדול שנאמר (ויקרא יח, ה) אשר יעשה אותם האדם וחי בהם כהנים לוים וישראלים לא נאמר אלא האדם הא למדת שאפילו עובד כוכבים ועוסק בתורה הרי הוא ככהן גדול התם בשבע מצות דידהו: ר' חנינא בן גמליאל אומר אף הדם מן החי: ת"ר (בראשית ט, ד) אך בשר בנפשו דמו לא תאכלו זה אבר מן החי רבי חנינא בן גמליאל אומר אף הדם מן החי מ"ט דרבי חנינא בן גמליאל קרי ביה בשר בנפשו לא תאכל דמו בנפשו לא תאכל ורבנן ההוא למישרי שרצים הוא דאתא כיוצא בדבר אתה אומר (דברים יב, כג) רק חזק לבלתי אכל הדם כי הדם הוא הנפש וגו' (רק חזק לבלתי אכל הדם זה אבר מן החי כי הדם הוא הנפש זה דם מן החי) ורבנן ההוא לדם הקזה שהנשמה יוצאה בו הוא דאתא למה לי למיכתב לבני נח ולמה לי למשני בסיני כדר' יוסי בר' חנינא דא"ר יוסי בר' חנינא כל מצוה שנאמרה לבני נח ונשנית בסיני לזה ולזה נאמרה לבני נח ולא נשנית בסיני לישראל נאמרה ולא לבני נח ואנו אין לנו אלא גיד הנשה ואליבא דר' יהודה אמר מר כל מצוה שנאמרה לבני נח ונשנית בסיני לזה ולזה נאמרה אדרבה מדנשנית בסיני לישראל נאמרה ולא לבני נח מדאיתני עבודת כוכבים בסיני ואשכחן דענש עובדי כוכבים עילווה ש"מ לזה ולזה נאמרה: לבני נח ולא נשנית בסיני לישראל נאמרה ולא לבני נח: אדרבה מדלא נישנית בסיני לבני נח נאמרה ולא לישראל ליכא מידעם דלישראל שרי ולעובד כוכבים אסור ולא והרי יפת תואר התם משום דלאו בני כיבוש נינהו והרי פחות משוה פרוטה התם משום דלאו בני מחילה נינהו: כל מצוה שנאמרה לבני נח ונישנית בסיני לזה ולזה נאמרה
https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.59a?lang=bi gets you the interlinear.
It does not say any of the following: "Murdering goyim is like killing a wild animal .... To communicate anything to a goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the goyim knew what we teach about them they would kill us openly .... If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Whoever will violate this order shall be put to death." This is several layers away from what the passage was originally about, namely, what natural law applies to all men and what Mosaic law applies to the Jews.
In some versions of this meme, Sanhedrin is accurately paraphrased as "A goy who pries into the law is guilty of death"; more literally at Sefaria, in one rabbi's name (only the bold online is original, the rest is commentary): "Rabbi Yohanan says: A Gentile who engages in Torah, liable death; as it is stated: 'Moses commanded us a law, an inheritance'; it is an inheritance for us, and not for them." This view is then rejected in favor of another baraita by Rabbi Meir, with the conclusion, "You have therefore learned that even a Gentile who engages in Torah is like a High Priest. There, in their seven mitzvot." That is, since Gentiles must study Torah to find out the (seven) Laws of Noah, they are free to study Torah; and Yohanan represents a rejected view.
The extended form of the statement above comes not from the Talmud but is often attributed to a fictitious book name, "Libbre David 37". The nonexistence of "Libbre David" as a book or even a Hebrew phrase, and the nonexistence of quotes in several of the books correctly titled "Dibre David" beginning in 1671, was noted as early as 1920 by Hermann Strack, cited in 1939 by Ben Zion Bokser. This typo and quote arose from an anti-Talmud pamphlet, apparently by August Rohling (c. 1871), quoted by Joseph S. Bloch, Israel and the Nations, 1927, p. 4. However, the quote may still exist in some unsearched Dibre David.
TLDR: In the best scenario, the long quote is a 19th-century biased summary of a net-unavailable medieval source, and Jews have been trying to find the original since 1920 but haven't linked it up. The last link above gives six more leads 1723-1902 for the offensive quote if you can find the original Hebrew manuscripts anywhere. But all that's not Talmud itself. The main point is that in Talmud itself Rabbi Yohanan was contradicted by the majority, who ruled that Gentiles are allowed to study Torah to learn the laws of Noah. Talmud minority opinions are nothing more than opinions!
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Bing AI shutting it down, when I'm trying to research the Talmud.in Conspiracies SwampRangers
2 points 3 days ago TLDR: Only 6 of them claim to be from the Talmud itself, the rest are medieval nonbinding interpretations. Of those six, #1 and #2 do not appear in the sources quoted, #3 is one man's contravened minority opinion out of context rather than a binding ruling, and 6, #13, and #16 are maliciously misinterpreted with inaccurate quotes.
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2 points 3 days ago The 20
1 Sanhedrin 59a: quote is several layers away from what the passage was originally about, namely, what natural law applies to all men and what Mosaic law applies to the Jews. Sanhedrin is accurately paraphrased as "A goy who pries into the law is guilty of death"; more literally at Sefaria, in one rabbi's name: "Rabbi Yohanan says: A Gentile who engages in Torah, liable death; as it is stated: 'Moses commanded us a law, an inheritance'; it is an inheritance for us, and not for them." This view is then rejected in favor of another baraita by Rabbi Meir, with the conclusion, "You have therefore learned that even a Gentile who engages in Torah is like a High Priest. There, in their seven mitzvot." That is, since Gentiles must study Torah to find out the (seven) Laws of Noah, they are free to study Torah; and Yohanan represents a rejected view. The extended form of the statement above comes not from the Talmud but is often attributed to a fictitious book name, "Libbre David 37". The nonexistence of "Libbre David" as a book or even a Hebrew phrase, and the nonexistence of quotes in several of the books correctly titled "Dibre David" beginning in 1671, was noted as early as 1920 by Hermann Strack, cited in 1939 by Ben Zion Bokser. This typo and quote arose from an anti-Talmud pamphlet, apparently by August Rohling (c. 1871), quoted by Joseph S. Bloch, Israel and the Nations, 1927, p. 4. However, the quote may still exist in some unsearched Dibre David.
2 Avodah Zarah 26b: out-of-context quote is from a different medieval source, Tractate Soferim 15 (see below for details). Avodah Zarah's closest statement seems to be: But may not a Gentile circumcise a Jew, because are suspected of bloodshed. The statement of Rabbi Meir. Even there, another Meir statement is taken to imply that a professional Gentile physician may circumcise a Jew: In a city in which there is no Jewish physician, and in which there is a Samaritan physician and an Aramean physician, Aramean circumcise and Samaritan not circumcise. The statement of Rabbi Meir. This is about Gentiles not being subject to Jewish courts, not about them being subject. Tractate Soferim 15: "R. Simeon b. Yohai taught: Kill the best of the heathens in time of war; crush the brain of the best of serpents." It's quite clear that the context changes the quote: in wartime it is understood that it is permitted to kill even the best among the enemies. But this is only one rabbi's proverb, not a halakhic majority ruling, not from the main Talmud (though cited later in Tosafot on Avodah Zarah 26b) but from early addenda.
3-5 See #1.
6 Yevamot 11b: quote appears to be a conflation of Yevamot 57b and Ketubot 11b. Ketubot says: "An adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl ... their marriage contract is two hundred .... More than three years and one day old, their marriage contract is one hundred dinars and they are not a claim virginity .... An adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl, nothing, as less than is tantamount to poking a finger into the eye." This is not about age at marriage, this is about marriage to a mature woman who had been abused in her youth. The ruling is that a girl abused after the age of three has a lower brideprice because she is not a virgin, but a girl abused before that can still be counted as a virgin; that is, it provides opportunity for healing for the immature victim by not challenging her virginity on physiological grounds. I've previously pointed out that Gen. 2:24 regulates sexual intercourse as limited to a covenanted man and woman, and that the abuser is thus still subject to the death penalty regardless. Ketubot is about the marriageability aspect, not about the crime; and Yevamot 57b is about the applicability of levirate marriage and is even more tangential. 57b says: "With regard to a girl less than three years and one day old. Since there is no intercourse her." This just restates the principle above that an abuse incident in an infant's life is not held against her virginity, and it goes on to apply this principle to the mature bride's rights to eat offerings.
7 Shavuot Haggadah: no match. There are many books so named. Pranaitis translates Rohling as "If the magistrate of a city compels Jews to swear that they will not escape from the city nor take anything out of it, they may swear falsely by saying to themselves that they will not escape today, nor take anything out of the city today only." Asher ben Jehiel (1250-1327), and "Shevuot, Haggahot Asheri" 6:4 by Israel of Krems (15th c.), may be intended, as Israel speaks about false oaths. The quote is similar to Bava Kamma 113a. Actual text: "Rav Ashi said: With regard to a Gentile customs collector .... one approaches circuitously; the statement of Rabbi Yishmael. Rabbi Akiba says: One does not approach circuitously due to the sanctification of God's name." The two contradictory views are stated, then the ruling is given that Akiba is correct even if the Name is not in consideration due to Lev. 25:48 prohibiting robbing a Gentile, as quoted herein at "Sanhedrin 57a". So this paraphrase is almost accurate for the view of the minority of Rav Ashi and Rabbi Yishmael, but not for the view of the majority or for Jewish practice.
8-9 Mishneh Torah, Foreign Worship and Customs of the Nations 10, 12th century, which can be adventurously spelled as "Hilkkoth Akum" 10:1, says: "Idolaters .... It is forbidden to have mercy upon them, as Deut. 7:2 states: 'Do not be gracious to them.' Accordingly, if we see an idolater being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him." As in Yoreh De'ah 158, this is not Talmud, is not about goyim but is limited to idolaters (with Jewish idolaters being mentioned separately), and refers only if one's own life would be at risk. Deut. 7:2 is limited to the seven nations in Canaan judged for their idolatry, who were in a state of war with Israel and were not to be shown mercy, so Maimonides extends this to other hypothetical known idolaters.
10 Tur, Choshen Mishpat 388: no match, quote is from Pranaitis, where his original adds that someone has "betrayed Israel three times, or"; he attributes it as 388:10, 15, but paragraph 15 doesn't exist. I hesitate to translate paragraph 11, but it appears to teach that money was (somehow) forbidden to be lost solely due to the accusation of an informer (spy), or to be surrendered to the government three times due solely to an informer, which is a far cry from the interpretation edited from Pranaitis (who says spy, not denunciator) from the medieval text. So, yet again, a reasonable enough dictum is greatly exaggerated by a lost modern chain of commentary.
11 Tur, Choshen Mishpat 266: no match. It does teach the general principle that "finders keepers" sometimes applies when restoring property is impractical, such as for low value without distinct marks where the owner is unlikely to search long, or if hypothetically returning the property would be blasphemous (not "because"). The quoted development must come from a later source. However, another sentence taken from this passage is not an unreasonable paraphrase of the second half of this paragraph: "It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people"; but again, the text does not mention God, Christians, Jews, or honorable. A probably errant modification of Google's translation yields: "If one returned it to him in order to sanctify the name so that Israel will cause pride and they know that they have faith, that is fine."
12 Tur, Yoreh Deah 17, 14th century, does not say "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim ask if our books contain anything against them." This chapter pertains to animal slaughter and seems wholly unrelated. It is likely that a source is intended that would be called part 17 of "She'elot u-Teshuvot, Yoreh Deah", but the first two words mean Q&A or responsa, and could refer to any such book commenting on Yoreh Deah. Attribution of the quote to "Libbre David 37", or to Passover prayers in Pranaitis, appears to be confusion from its repeated close proximity to quotes from those sources. No searches indicate further leads on the original source of this particular quote, but it's clearly not Talmud, although it is close to Bava Kamma 113a.
13 Bava Metzia 114b does not say "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts" or "The goyim are not humans. They are beasts." Actual text: "The graves of Gentiles do not render impure, as it is stated: 'And you, My sheep, the sheep of My pasture, are man.' You are called 'man', but Gentiles are not called 'man'." This refers to Ezek. 34:31, where Ezekiel uses the word "man" to refer only to the covenant people, demonstrating to the rabbis that in the passage about graves it is permissible to construe "man" the same limited way and not worry about the possibility of unmarked Gentile graves. This does not speak about humanity but is a use of a narrow definition for practicality. (In English we often use both "the man" and "the men" to mean various socially defined subsets taken from all humans and indicated by context; this is the same.)
14 Shabbat 32b does not say "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves." Original: "Anyone who is vigilant in ritual fringes merits two thousand eight hundred servants will serve him." This is an imaginative reading of Zech. 8:23 (10 men, 70 nations, 4 fringes) and as such the correct reading is promised to every grafted-in covenant believer. Yalkut Shimoni on Nach. 499, by Simeon ha-Darshan, translated: "Each of Israel will have thousands and thousands of slaves to him."
15 Midrash Talpiot 225, by Elijah Kohen (1698), does not say "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night." Pranaitis is tamer. Page 225 online I roughly translate as "And added Israel according to the fact that they are one special people to one supreme God as it is written 'and who is like your people Israel, one nation'. And he said, since you are Israel, one nation, it is proper for you to prepare yourself and prepare yourself for the one, and please eat and not drink a couple, so that you may think in your heart for a few seconds." This quotes 2 Sam. 7:23 tamely. Rohling refers to the Warsaw 1875 edition instead.
16 Avodah Zarah 36b-37a does not say "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated." It says: "When a Gentile child impart ritual impurity as ziva? .... Female Gentile child is three years and one day old, since she is fit to intercourse, she also imparts impurity as ziva." This is not about permission, but about when a forbidden act also carries ritual impurity. Abuse of younger children is just as bad, as in Gen. 2:24, but the idiosyncratic ruling was that, if a temple stood, it would not rise to impurity from mature bodily discharge. Making a biological statement into a permission is the perversity here.
17 Mishneh Torah, Kings and Wars 8: It appears the source's alternate name, "Yad Chazakah, Kings, 8:2" became the incomprehensible "Gad. Shas. 2:2" (my own judgment). The text states the contrary: if the possibility occurs in wartime, separation and then marriage must ensue, per. Deut. 21:11: "A soldier may engage in sexual relations with a woman while she is still a Gentile if his natural inclination overcomes him. However, he may not engage in sexual relations with her and then, go on his way. Rather, he must bring her into his home."
18 Sanhedrin 57a, actual quote: "And is a descendant of Noah executed for idol worship? But isn't it taught, 'With regard to idol worship, matters for which a Jewish court executes are prohibited to a descendant of Noah'? Yes, a prohibition, no death." This means idolatry by Jews, judged by Jews, is capital, but among sons of Noah idolatry ought to be prohibited even without a Jewish death penalty applying. I'ts not about murder, nor about a death penalty for murder, but for idolatry. But another quote is also close: "With regard to bloodshed, a Gentile Gentile, or a Gentile a Jew, liable; a Jew a Gentile, exempt. There, how should teach? Should he teach 'prohibited and permitted'? But isn't it taught 'A Gentile ... one may not raise and one may not lower'?" So, since the earlier text (baraita) said "exempt" rather than "permitted", murder (which would "lower" Gentiles) is still not permitted to Jews. Also not in Tosefta Avodah Zarah 8.
19 See #10.
20 Tur, Choshen Mishpat 348 is about theft, but the closest I find, translated by Google, is: "A question to Gaon. Who is suspected of theft and there are no witnesses against him, and there are witnesses against him for another theft before, what is the law against him? Answer: Thus we have seen that there is neither judgment nor flogging for him unless the Torah commands flogging except with two witnesses, but they will judge him by a decree." The imaginative interpretation quoted is not in Pranaitis, so may have come from another route.
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[part 4 of that guy getting back to me when I was wondering about the Talmud research. That's still all paused in the conspiracy folder to research and bookmarks. Got sidetracked with epic freemason stuff. lol. But I will eventually get back to checking out each of those lines in the Talmud to see the original, compared to that reddit conspiracy post with an image that just claims these things.]
Everything the cabal does, is for what happens after. WW2, after that, you can't inquire about Jewish stuff because it'll go, that's anti semetism. Like try asking Bing AI about anything to do with the Talmud. Meanwhile these priests are permitted to molest kids.in Conspiracies SwampRangers
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1 Sanhedrin 59a: quote is several layers away from what the passage was originally about, namely, what natural law applies to all men and what Mosaic law applies to the Jews. Sanhedrin is accurately paraphrased as "A goy who pries into the law is guilty of death"; more literally at Sefaria, in one rabbi's name: "Rabbi Yohanan says: A Gentile who engages in Torah, liable death; as it is stated: 'Moses commanded us a law, an inheritance'; it is an inheritance for us, and not for them." This view is then rejected in favor of another baraita by Rabbi Meir, with the conclusion, "You have therefore learned that even a Gentile who engages in Torah is like a High Priest. There, in their seven mitzvot." That is, since Gentiles must study Torah to find out the (seven) Laws of Noah, they are free to study Torah; and Yohanan represents a rejected view. The extended form of the statement above comes not from the Talmud but is often attributed to a fictitious book name, "Libbre David 37". The nonexistence of "Libbre David" as a book or even a Hebrew phrase, and the nonexistence of quotes in several of the books correctly titled "Dibre David" beginning in 1671, was noted as early as 1920 by Hermann Strack, cited in 1939 by Ben Zion Bokser. This typo and quote arose from an anti-Talmud pamphlet, apparently by August Rohling (c. 1871), quoted by Joseph S. Bloch, Israel and the Nations, 1927, p. 4. However, the quote may still exist in some unsearched Dibre David.
2 Avodah Zarah 26b: out-of-context quote is from a different medieval source, Tractate Soferim 15 (see below for details). Avodah Zarah's closest statement seems to be: But may not a Gentile circumcise a Jew, because are suspected of bloodshed. The statement of Rabbi Meir. Even there, another Meir statement is taken to imply that a professional Gentile physician may circumcise a Jew: In a city in which there is no Jewish physician, and in which there is a Samaritan physician and an Aramean physician, Aramean circumcise and Samaritan not circumcise. The statement of Rabbi Meir. This is about Gentiles not being subject to Jewish courts, not about them being subject. Tractate Soferim 15: "R. Simeon b. Yohai taught: Kill the best of the heathens in time of war; crush the brain of the best of serpents." It's quite clear that the context changes the quote: in wartime it is understood that it is permitted to kill even the best among the enemies. But this is only one rabbi's proverb, not a halakhic majority ruling, not from the main Talmud (though cited later in Tosafot on Avodah Zarah 26b) but from early addenda.
3-5 See #1.
6 Yevamot 11b: quote appears to be a conflation of Yevamot 57b and Ketubot 11b. Ketubot says: "An adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl ... their marriage contract is two hundred .... More than three years and one day old, their marriage contract is one hundred dinars and they are not a claim virginity .... An adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl, nothing, as less than is tantamount to poking a finger into the eye." This is not about age at marriage, this is about marriage to a mature woman who had been abused in her youth. The ruling is that a girl abused after the age of three has a lower brideprice because she is not a virgin, but a girl abused before that can still be counted as a virgin; that is, it provides opportunity for healing for the immature victim by not challenging her virginity on physiological grounds. I've previously pointed out that Gen. 2:24 regulates sexual intercourse as limited to a covenanted man and woman, and that the abuser is thus still subject to the death penalty regardless. Ketubot is about the marriageability aspect, not about the crime; and Yevamot 57b is about the applicability of levirate marriage and is even more tangential. 57b says: "With regard to a girl less than three years and one day old. Since there is no intercourse her." This just restates the principle above that an abuse incident in an infant's life is not held against her virginity, and it goes on to apply this principle to the mature bride's rights to eat offerings.
7 Shavuot Haggadah: no match. There are many books so named. Pranaitis translates Rohling as "If the magistrate of a city compels Jews to swear that they will not escape from the city nor take anything out of it, they may swear falsely by saying to themselves that they will not escape today, nor take anything out of the city today only." Asher ben Jehiel (1250-1327), and "Shevuot, Haggahot Asheri" 6:4 by Israel of Krems (15th c.), may be intended, as Israel speaks about false oaths. The quote is similar to Bava Kamma 113a. Actual text: "Rav Ashi said: With regard to a Gentile customs collector .... one approaches circuitously; the statement of Rabbi Yishmael. Rabbi Akiba says: One does not approach circuitously due to the sanctification of God's name." The two contradictory views are stated, then the ruling is given that Akiba is correct even if the Name is not in consideration due to Lev. 25:48 prohibiting robbing a Gentile, as quoted herein at "Sanhedrin 57a". So this paraphrase is almost accurate for the view of the minority of Rav Ashi and Rabbi Yishmael, but not for the view of the majority or for Jewish practice.
8-9 Mishneh Torah, Foreign Worship and Customs of the Nations 10, 12th century, which can be adventurously spelled as "Hilkkoth Akum" 10:1, says: "Idolaters .... It is forbidden to have mercy upon them, as Deut. 7:2 states: 'Do not be gracious to them.' Accordingly, if we see an idolater being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him." As in Yoreh De'ah 158, this is not Talmud, is not about goyim but is limited to idolaters (with Jewish idolaters being mentioned separately), and refers only if one's own life would be at risk. Deut. 7:2 is limited to the seven nations in Canaan judged for their idolatry, who were in a state of war with Israel and were not to be shown mercy, so Maimonides extends this to other hypothetical known idolaters.
10 Tur, Choshen Mishpat 388: no match, quote is from Pranaitis, where his original adds that someone has "betrayed Israel three times, or"; he attributes it as 388:10, 15, but paragraph 15 doesn't exist. I hesitate to translate paragraph 11, but it appears to teach that money was (somehow) forbidden to be lost solely due to the accusation of an informer (spy), or to be surrendered to the government three times due solely to an informer, which is a far cry from the interpretation edited from Pranaitis (who says spy, not denunciator) from the medieval text. So, yet again, a reasonable enough dictum is greatly exaggerated by a lost modern chain of commentary.
11 Tur, Choshen Mishpat 266: no match. It does teach the general principle that "finders keepers" sometimes applies when restoring property is impractical, such as for low value without distinct marks where the owner is unlikely to search long, or if hypothetically returning the property would be blasphemous (not "because"). The quoted development must come from a later source. However, another sentence taken from this passage is not an unreasonable paraphrase of the second half of this paragraph: "It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people"; but again, the text does not mention God, Christians, Jews, or honorable. A probably errant modification of Google's translation yields: "If one returned it to him in order to sanctify the name so that Israel will cause pride and they know that they have faith, that is fine."
12 Tur, Yoreh Deah 17, 14th century, does not say "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim ask if our books contain anything against them." This chapter pertains to animal slaughter and seems wholly unrelated. It is likely that a source is intended that would be called part 17 of "She'elot u-Teshuvot, Yoreh Deah", but the first two words mean Q&A or responsa, and could refer to any such book commenting on Yoreh Deah. Attribution of the quote to "Libbre David 37", or to Passover prayers in Pranaitis, appears to be confusion from its repeated close proximity to quotes from those sources. No searches indicate further leads on the original source of this particular quote, but it's clearly not Talmud, although it is close to Bava Kamma 113a.
13 Bava Metzia 114b does not say "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts" or "The goyim are not humans. They are beasts." Actual text: "The graves of Gentiles do not render impure, as it is stated: 'And you, My sheep, the sheep of My pasture, are man.' You are called 'man', but Gentiles are not called 'man'." This refers to Ezek. 34:31, where Ezekiel uses the word "man" to refer only to the covenant people, demonstrating to the rabbis that in the passage about graves it is permissible to construe "man" the same limited way and not worry about the possibility of unmarked Gentile graves. This does not speak about humanity but is a use of a narrow definition for practicality. (In English we often use both "the man" and "the men" to mean various socially defined subsets taken from all humans and indicated by context; this is the same.)
14 Shabbat 32b does not say "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves." Original: "Anyone who is vigilant in ritual fringes merits two thousand eight hundred servants will serve him." This is an imaginative reading of Zech. 8:23 (10 men, 70 nations, 4 fringes) and as such the correct reading is promised to every grafted-in covenant believer. Yalkut Shimoni on Nach. 499, by Simeon ha-Darshan, translated: "Each of Israel will have thousands and thousands of slaves to him."
15 Midrash Talpiot 225, by Elijah Kohen (1698), does not say "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night." Pranaitis is tamer. Page 225 online I roughly translate as "And added Israel according to the fact that they are one special people to one supreme God as it is written 'and who is like your people Israel, one nation'. And he said, since you are Israel, one nation, it is proper for you to prepare yourself and prepare yourself for the one, and please eat and not drink a couple, so that you may think in your heart for a few seconds." This quotes 2 Sam. 7:23 tamely. Rohling refers to the Warsaw 1875 edition instead.
16 Avodah Zarah 36b-37a does not say "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated." It says: "When a Gentile child impart ritual impurity as ziva? .... Female Gentile child is three years and one day old, since she is fit to intercourse, she also imparts impurity as ziva." This is not about permission, but about when a forbidden act also carries ritual impurity. Abuse of younger children is just as bad, as in Gen. 2:24, but the idiosyncratic ruling was that, if a temple stood, it would not rise to impurity from mature bodily discharge. Making a biological statement into a permission is the perversity here.
17 Mishneh Torah, Kings and Wars 8: It appears the source's alternate name, "Yad Chazakah, Kings, 8:2" became the incomprehensible "Gad. Shas. 2:2" (my own judgment). The text states the contrary: if the possibility occurs in wartime, separation and then marriage must ensue, per. Deut. 21:11: "A soldier may engage in sexual relations with a woman while she is still a Gentile if his natural inclination overcomes him. However, he may not engage in sexual relations with her and then, go on his way. Rather, he must bring her into his home."
18 Sanhedrin 57a, actual quote: "And is a descendant of Noah executed for idol worship? But isn't it taught, 'With regard to idol worship, matters for which a Jewish court executes are prohibited to a descendant of Noah'? Yes, a prohibition, no death." This means idolatry by Jews, judged by Jews, is capital, but among sons of Noah idolatry ought to be prohibited even without a Jewish death penalty applying. I'ts not about murder, nor about a death penalty for murder, but for idolatry. But another quote is also close: "With regard to bloodshed, a Gentile Gentile, or a Gentile a Jew, liable; a Jew a Gentile, exempt. There, how should teach? Should he teach 'prohibited and permitted'? But isn't it taught 'A Gentile ... one may not raise and one may not lower'?" So, since the earlier text (baraita) said "exempt" rather than "permitted", murder (which would "lower" Gentiles) is still not permitted to Jews. Also not in Tosefta Avodah Zarah 8.
19 See #10.
20 Tur, Choshen Mishpat 348 is about theft, but the closest I find, translated by Google, is: "A question to Gaon. Who is suspected of theft and there are no witnesses against him, and there are witnesses against him for another theft before, what is the law against him? Answer: Thus we have seen that there is neither judgment nor flogging for him unless the Torah commands flogging except with two witnesses, but they will judge him by a decree." The imaginative interpretation quoted is not in Pranaitis, so may have come from another route.
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See that post the other month where a couple guys snuck in and I posted those vids. You got the camp layout.. lemme get that.
Nevermind that.. searching.. here's a good name list.. seems like a lot.
https://archive.org/download/bohemian-grove-guest-list-2008-B/bohemian-grove-guest-list-2008-B.jpg
But yeah.. just that map of the camps layout, there was how many camps. Think it was over 100. You get that owl by the lake.. and where that 2nd kid snuck in during the day. lol. Lemme get those old posts.
"What were these 3 books in that room when the guy was wandering around Bohemian grove cabins."
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/17rmODRBIn/what-were-these-3-books-in-that-/c
"Screenshot from when that guy's wandering around Bohemian grove. In one of the rooms finds some sound guys ID's. Why would he have a "joke" pic of himself when he was a kid with headphones on. Looked for this name, couldn't find anything. His other passes were for backstage."
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/17rmOCImiT/screenshot-from-when-that-guys-w/c
"Guy in 2022 sneaking into Bohemian grove during the day.. going into cabins. If you know things there 'll be little clues he isn't aware of."
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/17rmOCH8QG/guy-in-2022-sneaking-into-bohemi/c
"Guy sneaks into Bohemian grove couple days ago, late at night in kayak. Goes into lots of like kitchen buildings. He goes in one and woah the stink. Could be from who knows what with these guys. Not the time of year though. Then owl.. that huge bowl. Blood would go in there. 27min long."
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/17rmOA048I/guy-sneaks-into-bohemian-grove-c/c
Lemme get that map layout from somewhere.. I'll check those comments.
"Still image, laminated map posted in there.. camps facilities and roads. April 14"
https://www.instagram.com/p/CrBhH3zrwT3/
Page is down. lol.
ok here you go..
"Bohemian grove, camps, facilities and roads, Sonoma co., California. " (1301 x 1644)
https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/power/bg_photos/vf_map.jpg
There's a lot of camps.
So how come this list from last summer.. kind of "stinks" as to the "amount" of names. Must have a lot of camps with like nobody there, or something.