The only reason they let these guys get empires is cause they're freemasons. They wouldn't let you get it goin like that and put a stick in their spokes with a bunch of money. lol.

How I wound up here.. was reading that article from the other thread.

Dave Thomas who started wendy's.. "a protege of founder Colonel Harlan Sanders". Dave was a freemason.. anything on the internet about Colonel Harlan Sanders being one too?

Searching for: Colonel Harlan Sanders freemason

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According to the web search results, Colonel Harlan Sanders, the founder of Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC), was also a Freemason123. He was initiated in Henryville Lodge No. 651 in Indiana in 1917, and affiliated with Hugh Harris Lodge No. 938 in Kentucky in 195312. He was also a 33° Scottish Rite Freemason and a noble of Oleika Shrine in Lexington, Kentucky23. His gravestone displays the Masonic square and compasses, Shriners and Scottish Rite logos2.

what year did the kfc guy start his chicken restaurant

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The KFC guy, also known as Colonel Harland Sanders, started his chicken restaurant in 1930 in Corbin, Kentucky1. He began selling fried chicken from his roadside restaurant during the Great Depression23. He later developed his secret recipe of 11 herbs and spices and his patented method of cooking chicken in a pressure fryer3. He franchised his restaurant concept in 1952 and sold the company in 19643. He remained the brand ambassador and symbol of KFC until his death in 19803.

how old was he when he started the restaurant

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Colonel Harland Sanders was 40 years old when he started his chicken restaurant in 19301. He had previously worked as a steam engine stoker, insurance salesman, and filling station operator23. He began selling fried chicken from his roadside restaurant in North Corbin, Kentucky, during the Great Depression23.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/11/business/wendys-founder-dave-thomas-daughter/index.html

Dave Thomas, a successful Kentucky Fried Chicken franchise owner in Columbus, Ohio, and a protege of founder Colonel Harlan Sanders, was struggling in 1969 to find a name for a new hamburger concept he hoped to open.

The fast-food burger market was becoming saturated, but Thomas believed there was an opening to target wealthier young adults – the Baby Boomer generation – who weren’t satisfied with burger chains geared to children. These customers, he believed, craved fresh beef and their own choice of toppings and would be willing to pay higher prices for a better-quality burger.

Thomas wanted to name the restaurant after one of his five children and turn it into a family business. But none of his kids’ names fit the nostalgic, family-values persona he wanted to create for the business.

From his tutelage under Sanders at KFC, Thomas had learned the value of using a mascot to create an emotional connection with customers and a “personal identity tied to the restaurant,” he said in his 1991 autobiography “Dave’s Way.”

He found what he believed to be the perfect name and mascot in his fourth child’s nickname.

Melinda Lou, Thomas’ eight-year-old daughter, was nicknamed Wenda when she was born because her siblings couldn’t pronounce her name. Soon after, her family started calling her Wendy.

Thomas told his daughter one day at home to pull her hair up in pigtails and took pictures with his camera. She wore a blue-and-white-striped dress sewed by her mother for the photos that would eventually turn her into a fast food mascot recognized around the world.

“To me, nothing would be a more appealing advertisement than showing a little girl, smiling and rosy-cheeked” enjoying one of his hamburger’s, Thomas said. “Her cleanly-scrubbed, freckled face was it. I knew that was the name and image for the business.”

The full name he chose – “Wendy’s Old Fashioned Hamburgers” – evoked nostalgia, and his choice of a young child to serve as a brand character was a long tradition in American branding. Jell-O, Morton Salt, Sun-Maid and others used girls and boys as brand mascots.

But Thomas later regretted his decision to name what would become a fast-food empire after his daughter, believing it put too much attention and pressure on her .

“She’s lost some of her privacy,” he said in his autobiography. “Because some people still take her for the official company spokesperson, sometimes she hedges speaking her mind. I don’t blame her.”

Before Thomas died in 2002, he apologized to his daughter for naming the restaurant after her.

Thomas told her, “I should’ve just named it after myself, because it put a lot of pressure on you,” Wendy Thomas-Morse, who later became a Wendy’s franchisee, recalled in a blog post for the chain’s 50th anniversary in 2019.

‘Where’s The Beef?’ The first Wendy’s restaurant opened in downtown Columbus, Ohio, in 1969.

It had an upscale overtone, with carpeting, Tiffany lamps, hanging beads and bentwood chairs. Workers all wore white aprons, with men in white pants, a white shirt and a black bow tie and women in white dresses and scarves. This gave “the feel of cleanliness and tradition,” Thomas said. Wendy’s burgers were double the price of rival chains.

Baby Boomers with disposable income would grow to become Wendy’s core customers, and Wendy’s later added salad bars, baked potatoes, stuffed pitas and other foods to cater to them.

By the mid-1970s, 82% of Wendy’s customers were older than 25, “contrasting markedly with all competitors,” wrote John Jakle and Keith Sculle in their 1999 book “Fast Food: Roadside Restaurants in the Automobile Age.”

Within a decade, there were more than 1,000 Wendy’s around the United States.

The company became known for its square beef patties – to emphasize that they were bigger than competitors’ round buns – and humorous advertising like its 1984 “Where’s the beef?” campaign, which helped increase Wendy’s annual revenue by 31% that year. The catchphrase became so popular that Walter Mondale, the eventual Democratic presidential nominee that year, asked the question to his leading primary opponent Gary Hart during a debate.

Thomas himself became the public face of the brand, appearing in more than 800 commercials for Wendy’s from 1989 until he died in 2002. The Guinness Book of World Records has recognized his spots as the ”Longest-Running Television Advertising Campaign Starring a Company Founder.”

With a folksy, everyman appeal, Thomas typically appeared in a short-sleeved white shirt and a red tie to tout his burgers.

“Wendy’s hamburgers are square and old-fashioned. Dave Thomas was square and old-fashioned,” an ad expert said when Thomas died.

Although Thomas may have apologized for naming the chain after his daughter, Wendy Thomas-Morse appeared in a 2011 commercial introducing Wendy’s new cheeseburgers as its “hottest and juiciest ever,” named after her father. It was the first time she was used in an ad campaign as a national pitchwoman for Wendy’s.

The burgers, she says in the spot, “would have made Dad say, ‘Here’s the beef.’”

hmm.. so this guy was hangin out with the KFC guy. Betcha if you'd look into him, he'd be a freemason too, eh? Lemme look. lol

Lookout goin to Wendy's.. the guy was a Freemason. lol.. I like their Jr bacon cheeseburgers.. cheap.. have lettuce, tomatoes. The chili's good too. And have some medium fries.

Must be some adrenochrome in something. lol.

How about the red-headed child as the logo, eh. Jeez.. these guys. lol

I ask bing AI..

the mark of Cain

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The mark of Cain is a phrase that originates from the story of Cain and Abel in the Book of Genesis. According to the biblical account, Cain killed his brother Abel out of jealousy and lied to God about it. God then cursed Cain to be a wanderer and a fugitive on the earth, and put a mark on him to prevent anyone from killing him. The mark of Cain is God’s promise to offer Cain divine protection from premature death with the stated purpose of preventing anyone from killing him1.

It is not known what the mark was, but it is assumed that the mark was visible. Some have speculated that the mark was a Hebrew or Sumerian letter placed on either the face or the arm. Others have interpreted the mark as a sign, a symbol, or a reminder of God’s mercy and justice2.

The mark of Cain has been the subject of various interpretations and theories throughout history, some of which have been used to justify racism, violence, or oppression. For example, some Christian groups have claimed that the mark of Cain was a dark skin color, and used this to justify slavery or discrimination against people of African descent. This is a false and un-Biblical doctrine that has no basis in the original text or context of the story3.

The mark of Cain should not be confused with the curse of Cain, which was the result of Cain’s sin and disobedience. The curse of Cain was that he would not be able to farm the land, and that he would be a wanderer and a fugitive on the earth. The mark of Cain was God’s grace and protection for Cain, despite his sin and guilt. The mark of Cain shows that God is both holy and loving, and that He does not desire the death of the wicked, but rather that they should repent and live4.

I hope this gives you some information about the mark of Cain. Is there anything else I can help you with? 😊

How can this guy lie to God.. that's like Santa who can see everything you're doing with the akashic records.

So how could the mark on this guy stop him from getting killed. I don't get it.

"God then cursed Cain to be a wanderer and a fugitive on the earth, and put a mark on him to prevent anyone from killing him. The mark of Cain is God’s promise to offer Cain divine protection from premature death with the stated purpose of preventing anyone from killing him1."

So.. what.. he's gotta suffer by living longer?

Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry for the Southern Jurisdiction of the United States.

What is this southern jurisdiction.. do they have a northern area?

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The Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite is one of the two regional jurisdictions of the Scottish Rite in the United States. It covers 35 states, primarily in the South and the West1. The other jurisdiction is the Northern Masonic Jurisdiction, which covers 15 states in New England, the Mid-Atlantic and the Mid-West2. The two jurisdictions operate independently, but share the same basic principles and values of Freemasonry3.

The Southern Jurisdiction was established in 1801 in Charleston, South Carolina, and is the oldest Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite in the world1. The Northern Masonic Jurisdiction was chartered in 1813 in New York, and unified with the Southern Jurisdiction in 18674.

I hope this clarifies the difference between the Southern Jurisdiction and the Northern Masonic Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite. Is there anything else I can help you with? 😊

What about this building in DC.. the house of the temple.. what jurisdiction is that in?

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The House of the Temple is a Masonic temple in Washington, D.C., that serves as the headquarters of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, Southern Jurisdiction, U.S.A12. It was designed by architect John Russell Pope and completed in 1915. It is modeled after the tomb of Mausolus at Halicarnassus, one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World 1.

The Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite covers 35 states, primarily in the South and the West, and is the oldest Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite in the world 2. The other jurisdiction is the Northern Masonic Jurisdiction, which covers 15 states in New England, the Mid-Atlantic and the Mid-West 3.

I hope this gives you some information about the House of the Temple and its jurisdiction. Is there anything else I can help you with? 😊

This doesn't seem "southern" to me.. like it's pretty north US.

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I understand your confusion. The Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite covers 35 states, but not all of them are in the South. The reason for this is historical. The Southern Jurisdiction was the first Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite in the United States, and it claimed jurisdiction over the whole country when it was established in 18011. In 1823, it granted jurisdiction of the 15 states east of the Mississippi River and north of the Ohio River to the Northern Masonic Jurisdiction, which was chartered in 18132. The remaining states were either part of the Southern Jurisdiction or not yet admitted to the Union. Therefore, the Southern Jurisdiction includes some states that are geographically in the North or the West, such as Washington, D.C., California, and Alaska1.

I hope this explains why the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite is not limited to the South. Is there anything else I can help you with? 😊

show me a map of these jurisdiction areas.. it sounds like it's just north and south?

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Sure, I can show you a map of the jurisdiction areas of the Scottish Rite in the United States. There are two regional jurisdictions: the Southern Jurisdiction and the Northern Masonic Jurisdiction (NMJ). The Southern Jurisdiction covers 35 states, primarily in the South and the West, while the NMJ covers 15 states in New England, the Mid-Atlantic and the Mid-West12. Here is a map that illustrates the division of the states between the two jurisdictions:

As you can see, the Southern Jurisdiction includes some states that are geographically in the North or the West, such as Washington, D.C., California, and Alaska. The reason for this is historical, as I explained in my previous message.

I hope this helps you understand the difference between the Southern Jurisdiction and the NMJ of the Scottish Rite. Is there anything else I can help you with? 😊

ok I see this northern area.. it's really like the north east.. no west yet.

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Yes, you are right. The Northern Masonic Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite covers 15 states in the North East of the United States, as well as Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin. The rest of the states in the West are part of the Southern Jurisdiction, which covers 35 states in total.

I hope this clarifies the jurisdiction areas of the Scottish Rite in the United States. Is there anything else I can help you with? 😊

show me a map of the southern jurisdiction

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Sure, I can show you a map of the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite in the United States. It covers 35 states, primarily in the South and the West12. Here is a map that illustrates the division of the states between the Southern Jurisdiction and the Northern Masonic Jurisdiction:

I hope this helps you. Is there anything else I can help you with? 😊

oh it's just the inverse.. this is odd, eh.. it's like almost the whole US. What states are in this small area of northern jurisdiction?

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Yes, the Northern Masonic Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite covers a smaller area than the Southern Jurisdiction, but it has more Valleys and members1. The states in the Northern Masonic Jurisdiction are:

Connecticut Delaware Illinois Indiana Maine Massachusetts Michigan New Hampshire New Jersey New York Ohio Pennsylvania Rhode Island Vermont Wisconsin

I hope this answers your question. Is there anything else I can help you with? 😊

Oh it does have New York and Massachusetts, and Pennsylvania.. so it's like early states, right?

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Yes, you are correct. New York, Massachusetts, and Pennsylvania were among the 13 original colonies that declared their independence from Great Britain in 17761. They were also some of the first states to ratify the U.S. Constitution and join the United States of America2. These states played important roles in the early history of the nation, such as hosting the Continental Congress, fighting in the Revolutionary War, and drafting the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights3.

I hope this gives you some insight into the history of these states. Is there anything else I can help you with? 😊

what were the 13 original colonies? Compared to this northern jurisdiction area.

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The 13 original colonies were a group of British colonies on the Atlantic coast of North America that declared their independence from Great Britain in 1776 and formed the United States of America1. They were:

New Hampshire

Massachusetts

Connecticut

Rhode Island

New York

New Jersey

Pennsylvania

Delaware

Maryland

Virginia

North Carolina

South Carolina

Georgia

Compared to the Northern Masonic Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite, which covers 15 states in New England, the Mid-Atlantic and the Mid-West, the 13 original colonies include four additional states: Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, and Georgia. These states were part of the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite, which covers 35 states in total2.

Here is a map that shows the 13 original colonies in red and the Northern Masonic Jurisdiction in blue:

I hope this helps you. Is there anything else I can help you with? 😊

In that freemason moon flag video it showed a clip of this freemason "the new age" magazine. I ask bing AI to get info about it

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The New Age was a Masonic magazine published by the Supreme Council of the Thirty-Third Degree Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry for the Southern Jurisdiction of the United States1. It began in 1904 and was replaced by the Scottish Rite Journal in 19892. The magazine covered topics related to Freemasonry, such as history, philosophy, symbolism, charity, education, and current events3.

ok so it was like this Scottish rite journal magazine, but before that.

Maybe somebody go look up those issues to see if you can find stuff. It stopped in 1989.. so these ones here, it was "new", trying to be like a magazine.

2006 Laugh Factory incident

During a performance on November 17, 2006, at the Laugh Factory in Hollywood, California, Richards launched into a racist rant in response to repeated heckling and interruptions from a small group of Black and Hispanic audience members. Richards was recorded shouting "He's a nigger!" several times and making references to lynching and the Jim Crow era.[6][17][18][19][20] Kyle Doss, a member of the group that Richards addressed, said the group had arrived in the middle of the performance and were "being a little loud". According to Doss:

[Richards] said, "Look at the stupid Mexicans and blacks being loud up there." That's the first thing he said. And then he kept on with his bit. And, then, after a while, I told him, "My friend doesn't think you're funny." And then when I told him that, that's when he flipped me off and said, "F-you N-word." And that's how it all started.

— Kyle Doss, Interview on The Situation Room[21]

Jerry Seinfeld issued a statement following the incident saying he felt "sick" over Richards' remarks and "felt terrible for all the people that have been hurt".[22] On November 20, Seinfeld invited Richards via satellite during a broadcast of the Late Show with David Letterman, where Richards was recorded saying: "For me to be at a comedy club and to flip out and say this crap, I'm deeply, deeply sorry. I'm not a racist, that's what's so insane about this."[23] Many studio audience members laughed as Richards began his unscripted explanation and apology, thinking it was a bit, leading Seinfeld to reprimand them, saying: "Stop laughing. It's not funny." Richards said he had been trying to defuse the heckling by being even more outrageous, but it had backfired. He later called civil rights leaders Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to apologize.[21][24] He also appeared as a guest on Jackson's syndicated radio show.[25] Doss stated that he did not accept Richards's apology, saying: "If he wanted to apologize, he could have contacted ... one of us out of the group. But, he didn't. He apologized on camera just because the tape got out."[24][26]

The incident was parodied on several TV shows, including Mad TV, Family Guy, South Park, Extras, and Monday Night Raw. In an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, Richards appeared as himself and poked fun at the incident. In 2008, rapper Wale referenced the incident and used recordings of the incident, as well as Richard's apology, in the song "The Kramer" on The Mixtape About Nothing album. In a 2012 episode of Seinfeld's web series Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, Richards explained that the outburst still haunted him, and was a major reason for his retirement from stand-up.[27]

Comedian Paul Mooney also cited the incident as a key factor leading to his decision to remove the racial slur from his own live performances.[28]

Svali, ex illuminati programmer. This was a huge key story to understand what's going on out there. Not just the elite, could be lower levels, your neighbor.

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_illuminati_svali01a.htm

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_illuminati_svali01b.htm

Story begins.. going to rituals under the vatican when she turned a certain age. Older generations who went to church every sunday wouldn't like how this story begins.

Just look up Karly Noel Franz on bitchute for her testimony talking about getting gang banged as a kid, by a bunch of freemasons in a row to get occult ceremonies going. Talking about this black entity getting summoned.

That's why these Shriners, who are all past level 33 freemasons, get involved with the kids hospitals, the parades. Shuttling the kids around. Oh, you're an "orphan".. yeah we'll just have whoever else in the illuminati make it look like the kid got transferred to some other home.

Going to check each of those wiki pages and was like.. oh wait, there was a bit more data to go, off this guy. Who were these couple other guys he mentions besides Snowden. Never heard of them. I ask bing AI. lol.

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Edward Snowden, Mark Klein, and William Binney are all whistleblowers who exposed the global surveillance activities of the National Security Agency (NSA) and its partners12

Edward Snowden

Edward Snowden is a former NSA contractor who leaked classified documents in 2013, revealing the extent of the NSA’s mass surveillance programs, such as PRISM and XKeyscore. He is currently living in Russia, where he was granted asylum13

Mark Klein

Mark Klein is a former AT&T technician who disclosed in 2006 that AT&T had installed secret equipment to allow the NSA to monitor, capture, and process American telecommunications en masse. He provided evidence of the NSA’s collaboration with major telecom companies in the US12

William Binney

William Binney is a former NSA analyst and technical director who resigned in 2001, after becoming disillusioned with the agency’s data collection policies. He was the co-founder of a unit that developed a program called ThinThread, which was designed to protect the privacy of American citizens while analyzing signals intelligence. He later became a vocal critic of the NSA’s domestic spying and accused the agency of wasting billions of dollars on ineffective programs124 These whistleblowers have raised public awareness and sparked debates about the legality, morality, and implications of global surveillance. They have also faced legal repercussions, harassment, and threats for their actions1234

oh, we got a new tidbit that guy didn't mention.

Too much text to paste it all.. I'll just get the start.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKeyscore

XKeyscore (XKEYSCORE or XKS) is a secret computer system used by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) for searching and analyzing global Internet data, which it collects in real time. The NSA has shared XKeyscore with other intelligence agencies, including the Australian Signals Directorate, Canada's Communications Security Establishment, New Zealand's Government Communications Security Bureau, Britain's Government Communications Headquarters, Japan's Defense Intelligence Headquarters, and Germany's Bundesnachrichtendienst.[1]

In July 2013, Edward Snowden publicly revealed the program's purpose and use by the NSA in The Sydney Morning Herald and O Globo newspapers. The code name was already public knowledge because it was mentioned in earlier articles, and, like many other code names, it appears in job postings and online résumés of employees.[2][3]

On July 3, 2014, German public broadcaster Norddeutscher Rundfunk, a member of ARD, published excerpts of XKeyscore's source code.[4] A team of experts analyzed the source code.[5]

Scope and functioning Part of a series on Global surveillance

Disclosures OriginsPre-20132013–presentReactions Systems XKeyscorePRISMECHELONCarnivoreDishfireStone GhostTemporaFrenchelonFairviewMYSTICDCSNBoundless InformantBullrunPinwaleStingraySORMRAMPART-AMastering the InternetJindalee Operational Radar Network Agencies NSAR&AWCSEBNDCNIASIODGSEFive EyesFSBMSSGCHQ Places The DoughnutFort MeadeMenwith HillPine GapSouthern Cross CableUtah Data CenterBad Aibling StationDagger ComplexGCHQ Bude Laws Five Eyes UKUSA AgreementLustreU.S. USA Freedom ActFISA amendmentsEU Data Retention DirectiveData Protection DirectiveGDPRChina National Intelligence LawCybersecurity LawUK Investigatory Powers Act 2016 Proposed changes U.S. FISA Improvements ActOther proposals Concepts Mass surveillanceCulture of fearSecure communicationSIGINTCall detail recordSurveillance issues in smart cities Related topics EspionageIntelligence agencyCryptography TorVPNsTLSHuman rights PrivacyLibertySatellitesStop Watching UsNothing to hide argument vte XKeyscore is a complicated system, and various authors have different interpretations of its actual capabilities. Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald explained XKeyscore as being a system which enables almost unlimited surveillance of anyone anywhere in the world, while the NSA has said that usage of the system is limited and restricted.

According to The Washington Post and national security reporter Marc Ambinder, XKeyscore is an NSA data-retrieval system which consists of a series of user interfaces, backend databases, servers and software that selects certain types of data and metadata that the NSA has already collected using other methods.[6][7]

According to Snowden and Greenwald On January 26, 2014, the German broadcaster Norddeutscher Rundfunk asked Edward Snowden in its TV interview: "What could you do if you would use XKeyscore?" and he answered:[1]

You could read anyone's email in the world, anybody you've got an email address for. Any website: You can watch traffic to and from it. Any computer that an individual sits at: You can watch it. Any laptop that you're tracking: you can follow it as it moves from place to place throughout the world. It's a one-stop-shop for access to the NSA's information. ... You can tag individuals ... Let's say you work at a major German corporation and I want access to that network, I can track your username on a website on a forum somewhere, I can track your real name, I can track associations with your friends and I can build what's called a fingerprint, which is network activity unique to you, which means anywhere you go in the world, anywhere you try to sort of hide your online presence, your identity.

According to The Guardian's Glenn Greenwald, low-level NSA analysts can, via systems like XKeyscore, "listen to whatever emails they want, whatever telephone calls, browsing histories, Microsoft Word documents. And it's all done with no need to go to a court, with no need to even get supervisor approval on the part of the analyst."[8]

He added that the NSA's database of collected communications allows its analysts to listen "to the calls or read the emails of everything that the NSA has stored, or look at the browsing histories or Google search terms that you've entered, and it also alerts them to any further activity that people connected to that email address or that IP address do in the future".[8]

[part 2] checking that guy's few links before he disappeared.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM

This one's pretty long.. not going to paste it all.

PRISM is a code name for a program under which the United States National Security Agency (NSA) collects internet communications from various U.S. internet companies.[1][2][3] The program is also known by the SIGAD US-984XN.[4][5] PRISM collects stored internet communications based on demands made to internet companies such as Google LLC and Apple under Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 to turn over any data that match court-approved search terms.[6] Among other things, the NSA can use these PRISM requests to target communications that were encrypted when they traveled across the internet backbone, to focus on stored data that telecommunication filtering systems discarded earlier,[7][8] and to get data that is easier to handle.[9]

PRISM began in 2007 in the wake of the passage of the Protect America Act under the Bush Administration.[10][11] The program is operated under the supervision of the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA Court, or FISC) pursuant to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).[12] Its existence was leaked six years later by NSA contractor Edward Snowden, who warned that the extent of mass data collection was far greater than the public knew and included what he characterized as "dangerous" and "criminal" activities.[13] The disclosures were published by The Guardian and The Washington Post on June 6, 2013. Subsequent documents have demonstrated a financial arrangement between the NSA's Special Source Operations (SSO) division and PRISM partners in the millions of dollars.[14]

Documents indicate that PRISM is "the number one source of raw intelligence used for NSA analytic reports", and it accounts for 91% of the NSA's internet traffic acquired under FISA section 702 authority."[15][16] The leaked information came after the revelation that the FISA Court had been ordering a subsidiary of telecommunications company Verizon Communications to turn over logs tracking all of its customers' telephone calls to the NSA.[17][18]

U.S. government officials have disputed criticisms of PRISM in the Guardian and Washington Post articles and have defended the program, asserting that it cannot be used on domestic targets without a warrant. Additionally claiming the program has helped to prevent acts of terrorism, and that it receives independent oversight from the federal government's executive, judicial and legislative branches.[19][20] On June 19, 2013, U.S. President Barack Obama, during a visit to Germany, stated that the NSA's data gathering practices constitute "a circumscribed, narrow system directed at us being able to protect our people."[21]

Media disclosure of PRISM Further information: Global surveillance disclosure Edward Snowden publicly revealed the existence of PRISM through a series of classified documents leaked to journalists of The Washington Post and The Guardian while Snowden, who was an NSA contractor at the time, was visiting Hong Kong.[1][2] The leaked documents included 41 PowerPoint slides, four of which were published in news articles.[1][2]

The documents identified several technology companies as participants in the PRISM program, including Microsoft in 2007, Yahoo! in 2008, Google in 2009, Facebook in 2009, Paltalk in 2009, YouTube in 2010, AOL in 2011, Skype in 2011 and Apple in 2012.[22] The speaker's notes in the briefing document reviewed by The Washington Post indicated that "98 percent of PRISM production is based on Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft".[1]

The slide presentation stated that much of the world's electronic communications pass through the U.S., because electronic communications data tend to follow the least expensive route rather than the most physically direct route, and the bulk of the world's internet infrastructure is based in the United States.[15] The presentation noted that these facts provide United States intelligence analysts with opportunities for intercepting the communications of foreign targets as their electronic data pass into or through the United States.[2][15]

Snowden's subsequent disclosures included statements that government agencies such as the United Kingdom's GCHQ also undertook mass interception and tracking of internet and communications data[23] – described by Germany as "nightmarish" if true[24] – allegations that the NSA engaged in "dangerous" and "criminal" activity by "hacking" civilian infrastructure networks in other countries such as "universities, hospitals, and private businesses",[13] and alleged that compliance offered only very limited restrictive effect on mass data collection practices (including of Americans) since restrictions "are policy-based, not technically based, and can change at any time", adding that "Additionally, audits are cursory, incomplete, and easily fooled by fake justifications",[13] with numerous self-granted exceptions, and that NSA policies encourage staff to assume the benefit of the doubt in cases of uncertainty.[25][26][27]

Lots more there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailblazer_Project

railblazer was a United States National Security Agency (NSA) program intended to develop a capability to analyze data carried on communications networks like the Internet. It was intended to track entities using communication methods such as cell phones and e-mail.[1][2]

NSA employees J. Kirk Wiebe, William Binney, Ed Loomis, and House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence staff Diane Roark complained to the Department of Defense's Inspector General (IG) about waste, fraud, and abuse in the program, and the fact that a successful operating prototype existed. The complaint was accepted by the IG and an investigation began that lasted until mid-2005 when the final results were issued. The results were largely hidden, as the report given to the public was heavily (90%) redacted, while the original report was heavily classified, thus restricting the ability of most people to see it.

The people who filed the IG complaint were later raided by armed Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agents. While the U.S. government threatened to prosecute all who signed the IG report, it ultimately chose to pursue an NSA Senior Executive Thomas Andrews Drake who helped with the report internally to NSA and who had spoken with a reporter about the project. Drake was later charged under the Espionage Act of 1917. His defenders claimed this was retaliation.[3][4] The charges against him were later dropped, and he agreed to plead guilty to having committed a misdemeanor under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, something that Jesselyn Radack of the Government Accountability Project, which helped represent him, called an "act of civil disobedience".[5]

Background Trailblazer was chosen over a similar program named ThinThread, a less costly project which had been designed with built-in privacy protections for United States citizens.[3][4] Trailblazer was later linked to the NSA electronic surveillance program and the NSA warrantless surveillance controversy.[3]

In 2002, a consortium led by Science Applications International Corporation was chosen by the NSA to produce a technology demonstration platform in a contract worth $280 million. Project participants included Boeing, Computer Sciences Corporation, and Booz Allen Hamilton. The project was overseen by NSA Deputy Director William B. Black, Jr., an NSA worker who had gone to SAIC, and then been re-hired back to NSA by NSA director Michael Hayden in 2000.[6][7][8] SAIC had also hired a former NSA director to its management: Bobby Inman.[9] SAIC also participated in the concept definition phase of Trailblazer.[10][11]

Redacted version of the DoD Inspector General audit, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act by the Project on Government Oversight and others.[5][12] The NSA Inspector General issued a report on Trailblazer that "discussed improperly based contract cost increases, non-conformance in the management of the Statement of Work, and excessive labor rates for contractor personnel."[13]

In 2004 the DoD IG report criticized the program (see the Whistleblowing section below). It said that the "NSA 'disregarded solutions to urgent national security needs'" and "that TRAILBLAZER was poorly executed and overly expensive..." Several contractors for the project were worried about cooperating with DoD's audit for fear of "management reprisal." The Director of NSA "nonconcurred" with several statements in the IG audit, and the report contains a discussion of those disagreements.[14]

In 2005, NSA director Michael Hayden told a Senate hearing that the Trailblazer program was several hundred million dollars over budget and years behind schedule.[15] In 2006 the program was shut down[3] after having cost billions of US Dollars.[16] Several anonymous NSA sources told Newsweek later on that the project was a "wasteful failure".[17]

The new project replacing Trailblazer is called Turbulence.[3]

Whistleblowing According to a 2011 New Yorker article, in the early days of the project several NSA employees met with Diane S Roark, an NSA budget expert on the House Intelligence Committee. They aired their grievances about Trailblazer. In response, NSA director Michael Hayden sent out a memo saying that "individuals, in a session with our congressional overseers, took a position in direct opposition to one that we had corporately decided to follow... Actions contrary to our decisions will have a serious adverse effect on our efforts to transform N.S.A., and I cannot tolerate them."[3]

In September 2002, several people filed a complaint with the Department of Defense IG's office regarding problems with Trailblazer: they included Roark (aforementioned), as well as ex-NSA senior analysts Bill Binney, Kirk Wiebe, and Senior Computer Systems Analyst Ed Loomis, who had all quit the agency over concerns about its mismanagement of acquisition and allegedly illegal domestic spying.[3][18][19] A major source for the report was NSA senior officer Thomas Andrews Drake. Drake had been complaining to his superiors for some time about problems at the agency, and about the superiority of ThinThread over Trailblazer, for example, at protecting privacy.[19] Drake gave info to DoD during its investigation of the matter.[19] Roark also went to her boss at the House committee, Porter Goss, about problems, but was rebuffed.[20] She also attempted to contact William Rehnquist, the Supreme Court Chief Justice at the time.[19]

Drake's own boss, Maureen Baginski, the third-highest officer at NSA, quit partly over concerns about the legality of its behavior.[3]

In 2003, the NSA IG (not the DoD IG)[19] had declared Trailblazer an expensive failure.[15] It had cost more than $1 billion.[8][21][22]

In 2005, the DoD IG produced a report on the result of its investigation of the complaint of Roark and the others in 2002. This report was not released to the public, but it has been described as very negative.[18] Jane Mayer writes that it hastened the closure of Trailblazer, which was at the time in trouble from Congress for being over budget.[3]

In November 2005, Drake contacted Siobhan Gorman, a reporter of The Baltimore Sun.[17][23][24] Gorman wrote several articles about problems at the NSA, including articles on Trailblazer. This series got her an award from the Society of Professional Journalists.[17]

In 2005, President George W. Bush ordered the FBI to find whoever had disclosed information about the NSA electronic surveillance program and its disclosure in the New York Times. Eventually, this investigation led to the people who had filed the 2002 DoD IG request, even though they had nothing to do with the New York Times disclosure. In 2007, the houses of Roark, Binney, and Wiebe were raided by armed FBI agents. According to Mayer, Binney claims the FBI pointed guns at his head and that of his wife. Wiebe said it reminded him of the Soviet Union.[3][18] None of these people were ever charged with any crime. Four months later, Drake was raided in November 2007 and his computers and documents were confiscated.

In 2010 Drake was indicted by the U.S. Department of Justice on charges of obstructing justice, providing false information, and violating the Espionage Act of 1917,[17][25][26] part of President Barack Obama's crackdown on whistleblowers and "leakers".[17][18][23][27] The government tried to get Roark to testify to a conspiracy, and made similar requests to Drake, offering him a plea bargain. They both refused.[3]

In June 2011, the ten original charges against Drake were dropped; instead he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor.[5]

Where'd I see this.. checking that guy's profile who wrote the other thread. Was going through the comments of his post:

"Three years ago (October 2020), months before the rollout) the FDA somehow knew about a pretty comprehensive list of the vaccine symptoms we’ve been experiencing since it’s release. Most of which still denied. Not only is it still on the market, it’s back with even less testing this time."

https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/16rebyg/three_years_ago_october_2020_months_before_the/

Then I saw this one from the screenshot.

Any reports of the Covid vaccine causing pregnancy? Maybe it'd be like if they're having sex and on birth control. I don't know.. but what if they're not even having sex and wind up pregnant. lol.. Never heard of this angle, or even thought of it. These guys could probably do that with this nano technology.

All we got with this guy here is those 4 other wiki pages he said before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_Wind

"Stellar Wind" (or "Stellarwind"[citation needed]) was the code name of a warrantless surveillance program begun under the George W. Bush administration's President's Surveillance Program (PSP).[1] The National Security Agency (NSA) program was approved by President Bush shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks and was revealed by Thomas Tamm to The New York Times in 2004.[2][3] Stellar Wind was a prelude to new legal structures that allowed President Bush and President Barack Obama to reproduce each of those programs and expand their reach.[4]

Program scope The program's activities involved data mining of a large database of the communications of American citizens, including e-mail communications, telephone conversations, financial transactions, and Internet activity.[3] William Binney, a retired technical leader with the NSA, discussed some of the architectural and operational elements of the program at the 2012 Chaos Communication Congress.[5]

The intelligence community also was able to obtain from the U.S. Treasury Department suspicious activity reports, or "SARS", which are reports of activities such as large cash transactions that are submitted by financial institutions under anti-money laundering rules.[3]

There were internal disputes within the U.S. Justice Department about the legality of the program, because data is collected for large numbers of people, not just the subjects of Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants.[6][7] During the Bush administration, the Stellar Wind cases were referred to by FBI agents as "pizza cases" because many seemingly suspicious cases turned out to be food takeout orders. According to then-FBI Director Robert Mueller, approximately 99% of the cases led nowhere, but "it's that other 1% that we've got to be concerned about".[2]

2004 conflict From a report by the inspectors general of six US intelligence agencies that was declassified in September 2015, it became clear that President Bush had originally authorized the collection of telephone and e-mail metadata only if one end of the communications was foreign or when there was a link to terrorism. But in 2004, the Justice Department discovered that the NSA was apparently also collecting the metadata of purely domestic communications, after which President Bush declared that NSA had always been allowed to do so, but that analysts were only allowed to look at metadata related to terrorism. With this revised formulation, Bush reauthorized the program on March 11, 2004.[8]

In 2004, the head of the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC), Jack Landman Goldsmith, wrote at least two legal memos authorizing the program, "We conclude only that when the nation has been thrust into an armed conflict by a foreign attack on the United States and the president determines in his role as commander in chief ... that it is essential for defense against a further foreign attack to use the wiretapping capabilities of the National Security Agency within the United States, he has inherent constitutional authority" to order warrantless wiretapping—"an authority that Congress cannot curtail", Goldsmith wrote in a 108-page memo dated May 6, 2004. In March 2004, the OLC concluded the e-mail program was not legal, and then-Acting Attorney General James Comey refused to reauthorize it.[9]

Revelations In March 2012, Wired magazine published "The NSA Is Building the Country's Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)" talking about a vast new NSA facility in Utah and said, "For the first time, a former NSA official has gone on the record to describe the program, codenamed Stellarwind, in detail", naming the official William Binney, a former NSA code breaker. Binney went on to say that the NSA had highly secured rooms that tap into major switches, and satellite communications at both AT&T and Verizon.[10] The article suggested that the supposedly-terminated Stellar Wind continues as an active program. This conclusion was supported by the exposure of Room 641A in AT&T's operations center in San Francisco in 2006.[11]

In June 2013, the Washington Post and the Guardian published an Office of the Inspector General (OIG) draft report, dated March 2009, leaked by Edward Snowden detailing the Stellar Wind program.[1][12] No doubt remained about the continuing nature of the surveillance program.

In September 2014, The New York Times asserted, "Questions persist after the release of a newly declassified version of a legal memo approving the National Security Agency's Stellarwind program, a set of warrantless surveillance and data collection activities secretly authorized after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001." as an introductory headline summary with a link. The accompanying article addressed the release of a newly declassified version of the May 2004 memo.[13][14][15] Note was made that the bulk of the program—the telephone, Internet, and e-mail surveillance of American citizens—remained secret until the revelations by Edward Snowden, that to date, significant portions of the memo remain redacted in the newly released version, and that doubts and questions about its legality persist.[14][15]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

Room 641A is a telecommunication interception facility operated by AT&T for the U.S. National Security Agency, as part of its warrantless surveillance program as authorized by the Patriot Act. The facility commenced operations in 2003 and its purpose was publicly revealed in 2006.[1][2]

Description Room 641A is located in the SBC Communications building at 611 Folsom Street, San Francisco, three floors of which were occupied by AT&T before SBC purchased AT&T.[1] The room was referred to in internal AT&T documents as the SG3 [Study Group 3] Secure Room.

The room measures about 24 by 48 feet (7.3 by 14.6 m) and contains several racks of equipment, including a Narus STA 6400, a device designed to intercept and analyze Internet communications at very high speeds.[1] It is fed by fiber optic lines from beam splitters installed in fiber optic trunks carrying Internet backbone traffic.[3] In the analysis of J. Scott Marcus, a former CTO for GTE and a former adviser to the Federal Communications Commission, it has access to all Internet traffic that passes through the building, and therefore "the capability to enable surveillance and analysis of internet content on a massive scale, including both overseas and purely domestic traffic."[4]

The existence of the room was revealed by former AT&T technician Mark Klein and was the subject of a 2006 class action lawsuit by the Electronic Frontier Foundation against AT&T.[5] Klein claims he was told that similar black rooms are operated at other facilities around the country.[6]

Room 641A and the controversies surrounding it were subjects of an episode of Frontline,[7] the current affairs documentary program on PBS. It was originally broadcast on May 15, 2007. It was also featured on PBS's NOW on March 14, 2008. The room was also covered in the PBS Nova episode "The Spy Factory".

Lawsuits Main article: Hepting v. AT&T The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed a class-action lawsuit against AT&T on January 31, 2006, accusing the telecommunication company of violating the law and the privacy of its customers by collaborating with the National Security Agency (NSA) in a massive, illegal program to wiretap and data-mine Americans' communications. On July 20, 2006, a federal judge denied the government's and AT&T's motions to dismiss the case, chiefly on the ground of the state secrets privilege, allowing the lawsuit to go forward. On August 15, 2007, the case was heard by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and was dismissed on December 29, 2011, based on a retroactive grant of immunity by Congress for telecommunications companies that cooperated with the government. The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear the case.[8]

A different case by the Electronic Frontier Foundation was filed on September 18, 2008, titled Jewel v. NSA. After many years of litigation, on April 25, 2019, ruling from the Northern District of California for Jewel v. NSA[9] concluded that the evidence presented by the plaintiff's experts was insufficient; "the Court confirms its earlier finding that Klein cannot establish the content, function, or purpose of the secure room at the AT&T site based on his own independent knowledge." The ruling noted, "Klein can only speculate about what data were actually processed and by whom in the secure room and how and for what purpose, as he was never involved in its operation." The Court further went on to discredit other experts called upon, citing their heavy reliance on the Klein declaration.

In the Spring of 2006, over 50 other lawsuits were filed against various telecommunications companies, in response to the article.[10]

There has been speculation that several rooms similar to this exist all over the United States.[11][12]

Maxed out.. gonna do the rest in another comment.

oh just analyzing that lately. I'll resume my conspiracy research later. All the stuff is paused on the desktop and bookmarks bar.

Was running tests on no score type last night. Cause you can't get that max payout otherwise. Lots of games were at halftime. Not doing any before that time. Always only doing 1 dollar bets. Just go through all the games and add to bet slip. Wind up at like 1 trillion.. whoops gotta weed some out. Able to get to it with 9 games. That's less stadiums than 20, hoping there 'll be no goal. Do a bet.. when some jackass scores.. who cares, it's just 1 buck. Do another one. Able to get there with 9 games again. Next round was like 10. So pretty good to get those shots in low amounts of games like that. Worth a shot at 1 buck for the max payout. As that whole block which were all at halftime at the same time, get into 60min.. then you have to add more games for less payout. But was interesting later when those got into 80 minutes. I think it was like had 13 games and 2 from another round which were after halftime. As the whole block was close to finishing, the cashout was going up fast. That's what I was talking about testing where it gets worried about too many going into green checkmarks. I'd have to check what the payout was.. wasn't the max.. but 10's of k's.

Then some jackass scored. Couldn't get another one going with that whole batch. One team in Indonesia was called ACDC FC. lol.. I'm there.. what. Wasn't anything to do with the band.. Air and Coastal Defense Command FC. This was around 3-4 am.. after that.. not enough games to get another round going. Go to bed.. wake up it's coming up 1am. Missed the morning rounds. Oh well. At least i didn't drink last night. No time to be hungover to get in on all these Saturday games.

How'd I wind up here.. was checking reddit conspiracy new tab.. where things don't get brought down by down voting. Reading this thread.

"What is the common link between the changing attitudes of our social engineers? What connects the promotion of homosexuality, transgenderism, war, climate change/ catastrophe, pandemics, dystopian future scenarios, broken homes, the child free movement, incels etc)"

https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/18p4su2/what_is_the_common_link_between_the_changing/

He didn't get into how every movie or ad on youtube, they're all cross-breeding. Not shagging somebody of their own race. What's up with that whole thing. Or in movies they're buddies with people of every other race. If you go down back alleys and see them hanging out with their real buddies, there ain't no white people hangin out with them, ok. This is not how the real world is.

But yeah.. reading that thread's comments, see this:

[–]Glittering_Pea_6228 0 points 7 hours ago

the Vatican calls the shots

Then somebody replies..

[–]PersonalBuy0 5 points 5 hours ago

The Vatican commemorated a coin celebrating the Covid shots.

I'm there.. what. From my research these guys are all involved with them. Look for this coin set on ebay. Couldn't find it. Here's a page of them.

(20-05-2022) EURO COIN SET PROOF VERSION - YEAR 2022 €180.00

They're all sold-out, eh.

https://www.cfn.va/en/home/2631-20-05-2022-euro-coin-set-proof-version-year-2022.html

[part 4 from thread post]

6/8 (28 bets): This would involve combinations of six teams out of the eight selected. Each combination would be a separate bet. For example, one of the bets would be a parlay of Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, and Texans. The payout for this bet would be 1.77 x 1.70 x 1.60 x 1.65 x 1.45 x 1.72 = 19.38. If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $28 CAD, and the total payout would be $542.64 CAD if all parlays win. Here are all the bets and payouts for this type:

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans 19.38 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 21.02 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Bears 14.59 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 23.17 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans, Bears 16.09 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Buccaneers, Bears 17.52 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 18.97 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Texans, Bears 13.16 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 14.34 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 15.55 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 20.61 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Texans, Bears 14.30 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 15.54 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 16.84 Colts, Seahawks, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 17.34 Colts, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 18.97 Colts, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans, Bears 13.16 Colts, Lions, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 14.34 Colts, Lions, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 15.55 Colts, Lions, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 16.09 Colts, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 17.52 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 18.36 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans, Bears 12.74 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 13.86 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 15.01 Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 15.55 Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 16.84 Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 15.54

do that list taking out the bears because anything with them they'd have lost. 

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans 19.38 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 21.02

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 23.17

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 18.97

Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 20.61

Colts, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 18.97

Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 18.36

do the list again.. taking out the buccs

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans 19.38

  do the list again.. taking out the packers.. that leaves none! lol.   

This 6/8 (28 bets): stinks.. cost 28 bucks if 3 teams lose, you get back nothing. The 5/8 and 3/8 at least you won, one. 

Let's check the others. 

4/8 (70 bets): Here, you’re betting on all combinations of four teams out from the eight selected. Each combination would be a separate bet. For example, one of the bets would be a parlay of Colts, Seahawks, Lions, and Jets. The payout for this bet would be 1.77 x 1.70 x 1.60 x 1.65 = 7.94. If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $70 CAD, and the total payout would be $555.80 CAD if all parlays win. Here are all the bets and payouts for this type:

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets 7.94 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Packers 7.74 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Texans 8.40 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Buccaneers 9.09 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Bears 6.31 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Packers 8.66 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Texans 9.39 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Buccaneers 10.16 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Bears 7.05 Colts, Seahawks, Packers, Texans 9.18 Colts, Seahawks, Packers, Buccaneers 9.94 Colts, Seahawks, Packers, Bears 6.90 Colts, Seahawks, Texans, Buccaneers 10.76 Colts, Seahawks, Texans, Bears 7.46 Colts, Seahawks, Buccaneers, Bears 8.11 Colts, Lions, Jets, Packers 7.66 Colts, Lions, Jets, Texans 8.30 Colts, Lions, Jets, Buccaneers 8.98 Colts, Lions, Jets, Bears 6.23 Colts, Lions, Packers, Texans 8.08 Colts, Lions, Packers, Buccaneers 8.76 Colts, Lions, Packers, Bears 6.07 Colts, Lions, Texans, Buccaneers 9.46 Colts, Lions, Texans, Bears 6.56 Colts, Lions, Buccaneers, Bears 7.13 Colts, Jets, Packers, Texans 9.30 Colts, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 10.08 Colts, Jets, Packers, Bears 6.99 Colts, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 10.89 Colts, Jets, Texans, Bears 7.55 Colts, Jets, Buccaneers, Bears 8.21 Colts, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 10.34 Colts, Packers, Texans, Bears 7.17 Colts, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 7.79 Colts, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 8.43 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers 7.48 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans 8.11 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Buccaneers 8.78 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Bears 6.09 Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Texans 7.89 Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Buccaneers 8.55 Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Bears 5.93 Seahawks, Lions, Texans, Buccaneers 9.23 Seahawks, Lions, Texans, Bears 6.40 Seahawks, Lions, Buccaneers, Bears 6.96 Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Texans 8.66 Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 9.39 Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Bears 6.51 Seahawks, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 10.16 Seahawks, Jets, Texans, Bears 7.05 Seahawks, Jets, Buccaneers, Bears 7.66 Seahawks, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 9.18 Seahawks, Packers, Texans, Bears 6.36 Seahawks, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 6.90 Seahawks, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 7.46 Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans 7.30 Lions, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 7.91 Lions, Jets, Packers, Bears 5.48 Lions, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 8.55 Lions, Jets, Texans, Bears 5.93 Lions, Jets, Buccaneers, Bears 6.44 Lions, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 7.89 Lions, Packers, Texans, Bears 5.47 Lions, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 5.93 Lions, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 6.40 Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 8.78 Jets, Packers, Texans, Bears 6.09 Jets, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 6.51 Jets, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 7.05 Packers, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 6.36

do the list again remove bears cause they lost. 

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets 7.94 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Packers 7.74 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Texans 8.40 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Buccaneers 9.09

Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Packers 8.66 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Texans 9.39 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Buccaneers 10.16

Colts, Seahawks, Packers, Texans 9.18 Colts, Seahawks, Packers, Buccaneers 9.94

Colts, Seahawks, Texans, Buccaneers 10.76

Colts, Lions, Jets, Packers 7.66 Colts, Lions, Jets, Texans 8.30 Colts, Lions, Jets, Buccaneers 8.98

Colts, Lions, Packers, Texans 8.08 Colts, Lions, Packers, Buccaneers 8.76

Colts, Lions, Texans, Buccaneers 9.46

Colts, Jets, Packers, Texans 9.30 Colts, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 10.08

Colts, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 10.89

Colts, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 10.34

Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers 7.48 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans 8.11 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Buccaneers 8.78

Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Texans 7.89 Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Buccaneers 8.55

Seahawks, Lions, Texans, Buccaneers 9.23

Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Texans 8.66 Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 9.39

Seahawks, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 10.16

Seahawks, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 9.18

Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans 7.30 Lions, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 7.91

Lions, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 8.55

Lions, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 7.89

Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 8.78

This one seems like a lot.. do the list again taking out the buccs

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets 7.94 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Packers 7.74 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Texans 8.40

Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Packers 8.66 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Texans 9.39

Colts, Seahawks, Packers, Texans 9.18

Colts, Lions, Jets, Packers 7.66 Colts, Lions, Jets, Texans 8.30

Colts, Lions, Packers, Texans 8.08

Colts, Jets, Packers, Texans 9.30

Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers 7.48 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans 8.11

Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Texans 7.89

Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Texans 8.66

Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans 7.30

not too many left.. do the list again taking out the packers. 

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets 7.94

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Texans 8.40

Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Texans 9.39

Colts, Lions, Jets, Texans 8.30

Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans 8.11

so.. you still got something.. add that up. you win 42.14. It cost 70 bucks.. you lose 27.86.

Next set we didn't check. 

2/8 (28 bets): You’re betting on all two-team combinations from those selected. Each combination would be a separate bet. For example, one of the bets would be a parlay of Colts and Seahawks. The payout for this bet would be 1.77 x 1.70 = 3.01. If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $28 CAD, and the total payout would be $84.28 CAD if all parlays win. Here are all the bets and payouts for this type:

Colts, Seahawks 3.01 Colts, Lions 2.83 Colts, Jets 2.92 Colts, Packers 2.57 Colts, Texans 2.78 Colts, Buccaneers 3.01 Colts, Bears 2.09 Seahawks, Lions 2.72 Seahawks, Jets 2.81 Seahawks, Packers 2.47 Seahawks, Texans 2.67 Seahawks, Buccaneers 2.89 Seahawks, Bears 2.01 Lions, Jets 2.64 Lions, Packers 2.32 Lions, Texans 2.51 Lions, Buccaneers 2.72 Lions, Bears 1.89 Jets, Packers 2.69 Jets, Texans 2.91 Jets, Buccaneers 3.15 Jets, Bears 2.19 Packers, Texans 2.49 Packers, Buccaneers 2.69 Packers, Bears 1.87 Texans, Buccaneers 2.91 Texans, Bears 2.02 Buccaneers, Bears 2.19

Do the list again, remove bears. 

Colts, Seahawks 3.01 Colts, Lions 2.83 Colts, Jets 2.92 Colts, Packers 2.57 Colts, Texans 2.78 Colts, Buccaneers 3.01

Seahawks, Lions 2.72 Seahawks, Jets 2.81 Seahawks, Packers 2.47 Seahawks, Texans 2.67 Seahawks, Buccaneers 2.89

Lions, Jets 2.64 Lions, Packers 2.32 Lions, Texans 2.51 Lions, Buccaneers 2.72

Jets, Packers 2.69 Jets, Texans 2.91 Jets, Buccaneers 3.15

Packers, Texans 2.49 Packers, Buccaneers 2.69

Texans, Buccaneers 2.91

do the list again, remove buccs

Colts, Seahawks 3.01 Colts, Lions 2.83 Colts, Jets 2.92 Colts, Packers 2.57 Colts, Texans 2.78

Seahawks, Lions 2.72 Seahawks, Jets 2.81 Seahawks, Packers 2.47 Seahawks, Texans 2.67

Lions, Jets 2.64 Lions, Packers 2.32 Lions, Texans 2.51

Jets, Packers 2.69 Jets, Texans 2.91

Packers, Texans 2.49

do the list again remove packers

Colts, Seahawks 3.01 Colts, Lions 2.83 Colts, Jets 2.92

Colts, Texans 2.78

Seahawks, Lions 2.72 Seahawks, Jets 2.81

Seahawks, Texans 2.67

Lions, Jets 2.64

Lions, Texans 2.51

Jets, Texans 2.91

This one doesn't seem too bad.. payback 27.8..  cost 28 bucks.. best yet. 3 teams fuckin lost and you only lost fuckin 20 cents!

let's get a tally of each of the packages and check the how much they'd win if 3 teams lose, comparing what it cost. 

6/8 28 bets: you win 0, It costs 28, you lose 28. lol 5/8 56 bets: you win 12. It costs 56, you lose 44.

4/8 70 bets: you win 42.14. It costs 70, you lose 27.86.

3/8 56 bets:  you win 48.31. It costs 56, you lose 7.69.

2/8 28 bets:  you win 27.8..  It costs 28 bucks, you lose 20 cents. lol. 

Let's do each with sorting by how much money you'd lose. lol.  5/8 56 bets: you lose 44.

6/8 28 bets: you lose 28. 4/8 70 bets:  you lose 27.86.

3/8 56 bets:  you lose 7.69.

2/8 28 bets:  you lose 20 cents. 

Now you gotta calculate the goliath.. I think that has like a single parlay the 7/8 but you got 3 teams losing I think you'd lose those.. let's calculate the cost and losses of this.. cause the goliath is just all those packages. 

6/8 28 bets: you win 0,  5/8 56 bets: you win 12.

4/8 70 bets:  you win 42.14. 

3/8 56 bets:  you win 48.31. 

2/8 28 bets:  you win 27.8..  

you'd win back 130.25. But it cost 247. You lose 116.75. That's not bad. 

but let's look at the gains again if nobody loses, this time add that goliath. 

6/8 (28 bets):  If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $28 CAD, and the total payout would be $542.64 CAD if all parlays win. 

5/8 (56 bets): f you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $56 CAD, and the total payout would be $631.24 CAD if all parlays win.

4/8 (70 bets): If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $70 CAD, and the total payout would be $555.80 CAD if all parlays win. 

3/8 (56 bets): If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $56 CAD, and the total payout would be $269.36 CAD if all parlays win. 

2/8 (28 bets): If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $28 CAD, and the total payout would be $84.28 CAD if all parlays win. 

Goliath (247 bets):  If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $247 CAD, and the total payout would be $1,510.28 CAD if all parlays win. 

Do the loser list again and put the if it wins it all beside that. 

Goliath 247 bets: You lose 116.75 but $1,510.28 CAD if all parlays win

5/8 56 bets: you lose 44 but $631.24 CAD if all parlays win

6/8 28 bets: you lose 28 but $542.64 CAD if all parlays win 4/8 70 bets:  you lose 27.86 but $555.80 CAD if all parlays win

3/8 56 bets:  you lose 7.69 but $269.36 CAD if all parlays win. 

2/8 28 bets:  you lose 20 cents but $84.28 CAD if all parlays win. 

[part 3 from thread post]

analyzing these round robin parlay bets if 3 of the 8 favorites lose

Talk about getting to the bottom of analyzing this fucking round robin parlay bet shit.. meanwhile.. earlier today I didn't know what the hell they were. haha. They don't tell you any of this shit though when you go to buy them. It's like, what's the differences. They don't even show all the bet combinations it buys. 

here's the ending again first.. later I test out taking out 3 teams that lose, like it did last sunday.

Do the loser list again and put the if it wins it all beside that. 

Goliath 247 bets: You lose 116.75 but $1,510.28 CAD if all parlays win. Cost 247 though.

5/8 56 bets: you lose 44 but $631.24 CAD if all parlays win. Cost 56.

6/8 28 bets: you lose 28 but $542.64 CAD if all parlays win. Cost 28. 4/8 70 bets:  you lose 27.86 but $555.80 CAD if all parlays win. Cost 70.

3/8 56 bets:  you lose 7.69 but $269.36 CAD if all parlays win. Cost 56.

2/8 28 bets:  you lose 20 cents but $84.28 CAD if all parlays win. Cost 28.

What's the best bargain.. lol.. What can sustain the most losses right.. 

Would you rather spend 250 bucks and lose 116.. but maybe win 1500.

or

spend 28 and lose 20 cents.. but max win 84 bucks. 

That seems like a smarter deal because nil loss.. yet still make 3X your money if they win!

This shit seems not bad, man. haha. 

What if you did this 2/8 28 bets on the underdogs.. cause those are supposed to lose. Yet.. ok let's check of the 11 last sunday.. 3 of 8 won.. isn't this 3 losers of 8 I calculated here. I think you'd sustain a lot of damage.. lol. But bigger payout if more win, eh. 

You'd have to run a test of it all again cause this was inputting only the 8 favorites for next sunday. 

this was the start before. lol. 

which of those types woulda been good for last sunday where 3 of the favorites lost.. and you were using 8 of the favorites. 

6/8 28 bets 5/8 56 bets 4/8 70 bets 3/8 56 bets 2/8 28 bets

it's gotta be some type of combination bet that'd exclude 3 of the 8. Which set would that be. Let me look at those sections.. 5/8? 

look at this and picture.. ok just "bears".. look at these games and go.. ok this parlay doesn't have the bears so that'd win. But then try and do that for 2 more teams. lol.. the ones where they weren't in the bets. You're paying 56 bucks for it.. and it's doing 56 bets. 

5/8 (56 bets): This involves betting on all possible combinations of five teams out of the eight selected. Each combination would be a separate bet. For example, one of the bets would be a parlay of Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, and Packers. The payout for this bet would be 1.77 x 1.70 x 1.60 x 1.65 x 1.45 = 11.29. If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $56 CAD, and the total payout would be $631.24 CAD if all parlays win. Here are all the bets and payouts for this type:

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers 11.29 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans 12.28 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Buccaneers 13.31 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Bears 9.23 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Texans 11.97 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Buccaneers 12.97 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Bears 9.01 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Texans, Buccaneers 14.07 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Texans, Bears 9.77 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Buccaneers, Bears 10.63 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Texans 12.76 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 13.82 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Bears 9.59 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 14.97 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Texans, Bears 10.38 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Buccaneers, Bears 11.29 Colts, Seahawks, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 13.47 Colts, Seahawks, Packers, Texans, Bears 9.34 Colts, Seahawks, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 10.18 Colts, Seahawks, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 11.04 Colts, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans 11.62 Colts, Lions, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 12.58 Colts, Lions, Jets, Packers, Bears 8.73 Colts, Lions, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 13.62 Colts, Lions, Jets, Texans, Bears 9.44 Colts, Lions, Jets, Buccaneers, Bears 10.28 Colts, Lions, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 13.08 Colts, Lions, Packers, Texans, Bears 9.07 Colts, Lions, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 9.87 Colts, Lions, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 10.69 Colts, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 14.01 Colts, Jets, Packers, Texans, Bears 9.71 Colts, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 10.56 Colts, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 11.44 Colts, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 11.89 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans 11.25 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 12.18 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Bears 8.46 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 13.17 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans, Bears 9.13 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Buccaneers, Bears 9.92 Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 12.97 Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Texans, Bears 9.01 Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 9.79 Seahawks, Lions, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 10.63 Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 13.82 Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Texans, Bears 9.59 Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 10.41 Seahawks, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 11.29 Seahawks, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 11.76 Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 12.58 Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans, Bears 8.73 Lions, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 9.49 Lions, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 10.28 Lions, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 10.69 Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 11.44

Below I'll select the ones that didn't have the bears. lol. 

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers 11.29 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans 12.28 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Buccaneers 13.31

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Texans 11.97 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Buccaneers 12.97

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Texans, Buccaneers 14.07

Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Texans 12.76 Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 13.82

Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 14.97

Colts, Seahawks, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 13.47

Colts, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans 11.62 Colts, Lions, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 12.58

Colts, Lions, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 13.62

Colts, Lions, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 13.08

Colts, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 14.01

Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans 11.25 Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Buccaneers 12.18

Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 13.17

Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 12.97

Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 13.82

Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 12.58

now.. what if the buccs also lost.. let's do that list again and take out where you see buccs.

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers 11.29 Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans 12.28

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Packers, Texans 11.97

Colts, Seahawks, Jets, Packers, Texans 12.76

Colts, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans 11.62

Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Packers, Texans 11.25

now.. what if the packers lost.. do that list again and take out when you see packers. lol. 

Colts, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Texans 12.28

fuck.. you'd only have won 12 bucks after paying 56

I don't know.. let's try this with the 3/8 maybe that's the better combination to have picked if 3 of the favorites lose. 

3/8 (56 bets): This involves betting on all possible three-team combinations from the eight selected. Each combination would be a separate bet. For example, one of the bets would be a parlay of Colts, Seahawks, and Lions. The payout for this bet would be 1.77 x 1.70 x 1.60 = 4.81. If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $56 CAD, and the total payout would be $269.36 CAD if all parlays win. Here are all the bets and payouts for this type:

Colts, Seahawks, Lions 4.81 Colts, Seahawks, Jets 4.97 Colts, Seahawks, Packers 4.36 Colts, Seahawks, Texans 4.73 Colts, Seahawks, Buccaneers 5.12 Colts, Seahawks, Bears 3.55 Colts, Lions, Jets 4.67 Colts, Lions, Packers 4.10 Colts, Lions, Texans 4.45 Colts, Lions, Buccaneers 4.82 Colts, Lions, Bears 3.35 Colts, Jets, Packers 5.04 Colts, Jets, Texans 5.46 Colts, Jets, Buccaneers 5.92 Colts, Jets, Bears 4.11 Colts, Packers, Texans 5.21 Colts, Packers, Buccaneers 5.65 Colts, Packers, Bears 3.92 Colts, Texans, Buccaneers 6.11 Colts, Texans, Bears 4.24 Colts, Buccaneers, Bears 4.61 Seahawks, Lions, Jets 4.64 Seahawks, Lions, Packers 4.08 Seahawks, Lions, Texans 4.42 Seahawks, Lions, Buccaneers 4.79 Seahawks, Lions, Bears 3.32 Seahawks, Jets, Packers 4.99 Seahawks, Jets, Texans 5.41 Seahawks, Jets, Buccaneers 5.86 Seahawks, Jets, Bears 4.07 Seahawks, Packers, Texans 5.15 Seahawks, Packers, Buccaneers 5.59 Seahawks, Packers, Bears 3.87 Seahawks, Texans, Buccaneers 6.04 Seahawks, Texans, Bears 4.19 Seahawks, Buccaneers, Bears 4.55 Lions, Jets, Packers 4.38 Lions, Jets, Texans 4.75 Lions, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 5.15 Lions, Jets, Texans, Bears 3.57 Lions, Jets, Buccaneers, Bears 3.88 Lions, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 4.75 Lions, Packers, Texans, Bears 3.29 Lions, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 3.57 Lions, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 3.88 Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 5.86 Jets, Packers, Texans, Bears 4.07 Jets, Packers, Buccaneers, Bears 4.41 Jets, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 4.77 Packers, Texans, Buccaneers, Bears 4.19

let's do that list again and take out bears. lol.  Colts, Seahawks, Lions 4.81 Colts, Seahawks, Jets 4.97 Colts, Seahawks, Packers 4.36 Colts, Seahawks, Texans 4.73 Colts, Seahawks, Buccaneers 5.12

Colts, Lions, Jets 4.67 Colts, Lions, Packers 4.10 Colts, Lions, Texans 4.45 Colts, Lions, Buccaneers 4.82

Colts, Jets, Packers 5.04 Colts, Jets, Texans 5.46 Colts, Jets, Buccaneers 5.92

Colts, Packers, Texans 5.21 Colts, Packers, Buccaneers 5.65

Colts, Texans, Buccaneers 6.11

Seahawks, Lions, Jets 4.64 Seahawks, Lions, Packers 4.08 Seahawks, Lions, Texans 4.42 Seahawks, Lions, Buccaneers 4.79

Seahawks, Jets, Packers 4.99 Seahawks, Jets, Texans 5.41 Seahawks, Jets, Buccaneers 5.86

Seahawks, Packers, Texans 5.15 Seahawks, Packers, Buccaneers 5.59

Seahawks, Texans, Buccaneers 6.04

Lions, Jets, Packers 4.38 Lions, Jets, Texans 4.75 Lions, Jets, Texans, Buccaneers 5.15

Lions, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 4.75

Jets, Packers, Texans, Buccaneers 5.86

now take out the buccs, picturing if they lost, what bets would you have still won if you did this 3/8 type. 

Colts, Seahawks, Lions 4.81 Colts, Seahawks, Jets 4.97 Colts, Seahawks, Packers 4.36 Colts, Seahawks, Texans 4.73

Colts, Lions, Jets 4.67 Colts, Lions, Packers 4.10 Colts, Lions, Texans 4.45

Colts, Jets, Packers 5.04 Colts, Jets, Texans 5.46

Colts, Packers, Texans 5.21

Seahawks, Lions, Jets 4.64 Seahawks, Lions, Packers 4.08 Seahawks, Lions, Texans 4.42

Seahawks, Jets, Packers 4.99 Seahawks, Jets, Texans 5.41

Seahawks, Packers, Texans 5.15

Lions, Jets, Packers 4.38 Lions, Jets, Texans 4.75

do that list again and take out the packers.. cause they did lose. lol

Colts, Seahawks, Lions 4.81 Colts, Seahawks, Jets 4.97

Colts, Seahawks, Texans 4.73

Colts, Lions, Jets 4.67

Colts, Lions, Texans 4.45

Colts, Jets, Texans 5.46

Seahawks, Lions, Jets 4.64

Seahawks, Lions, Texans 4.42

Seahawks, Jets, Texans 5.41

Lions, Jets, Texans 4.75

that looks like there's more left.. but what does it pay. Does 56 bets and costs 56 bucks. What did that fuckin 5/8 pay at the end if 3 of the teams lost. "you'd only have won 12 bucks after paying 56"

This one looks better.. they're smaller parlays though so the x factor 'll pay less. you need more teams to get more payout. Let's add these up. 

48.31

Cost 56 though.. but you almost break even.. with the 5/8 you lost more. 

With these.. I think you gotta hope they all win cause more teams in a parlay bigger payout. 

Let's get a summary of each for just the payouts. 

6/8 (28 bets):  If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $28 CAD, and the total payout would be $542.64 CAD if all parlays win. 

5/8 (56 bets): f you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $56 CAD, and the total payout would be $631.24 CAD if all parlays win.

4/8 (70 bets): If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $70 CAD, and the total payout would be $555.80 CAD if all parlays win. 

3/8 (56 bets): If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $56 CAD, and the total payout would be $269.36 CAD if all parlays win. 

2/8 (28 bets): If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $28 CAD, and the total payout would be $84.28 CAD if all parlays win. 

ok.. from those couple tests.. the 3/8 suffered less paying money for 3 of the teams losing. You'd have to do that check on the other types. Odd how these one that pays the most is the 5/8 costing 56 bucks.. you'd think it'd be the one that cost the most would make you the most money. 

Let's check these other ones with these 3 teams losing scenario, to see what the damage would be. lol. 

[part 2 from thread post]

2/8 (28 bets): You’re betting on all two-team combinations from those selected. Each combination would be a separate bet. For example, one of the bets would be a parlay of Colts and Seahawks. The payout for this bet would be 1.77 x 1.70 = 3.01. If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $28 CAD, and the total payout would be $84.28 CAD if all parlays win. Here are all the bets and payouts for this type:

Colts, Seahawks 3.01 Colts, Lions 2.83 Colts, Jets 2.92 Colts, Packers 2.57 Colts, Texans 2.78 Colts, Buccaneers 3.01 Colts, Bears 2.09 Seahawks, Lions 2.72 Seahawks, Jets 2.81 Seahawks, Packers 2.47 Seahawks, Texans 2.67 Seahawks, Buccaneers 2.89 Seahawks, Bears 2.01 Lions, Jets 2.64 Lions, Packers 2.32 Lions, Texans 2.51 Lions, Buccaneers 2.72 Lions, Bears 1.89 Jets, Packers 2.69 Jets, Texans 2.91 Jets, Buccaneers 3.15 Jets, Bears 2.19 Packers, Texans 2.49 Packers, Buccaneers 2.69 Packers, Bears 1.87 Texans, Buccaneers 2.91 Texans, Bears 2.02 Buccaneers, Bears 2.19

Goliath (247 bets): This is a complex multi-bet that covers every possible combination of the eight selections. The total number of parlays in a goliath bet is 247, as shown in the table above. The payouts for each parlay would be the same as in the corresponding round robin bet type. For example, the payout for a parlay of Colts, Seahawks, Lions, and Jets would be the same as in the 4/8 type, which is 7.94. If you bet $1 CAD on each parlay, the total cost would be $247 CAD, and the total payout would be $1,510.28 CAD if all parlays win. However, due to the large number of bets involved, I won’t list them all here. Instead, I’ll provide a summary of the total payouts for each number of teams or events in each parlay:

Number of teams or events in each parlay Total payout 2 84.28 3 269.36 4 555.80 5 631.24 6 542.64 7 153.52 8 173.44 Total 1,510.28

So this would be like doing all of the other types individually..

That's loading the "favorites" of who's supposed to win. But last sunday 3 of the underdogs won.

What if you do a second of these round robins using the underdogs.

Sucks cause you can only load in 8 games. Underdogs in 1 parlay at 1 buck.. it's short on enough teams to exponentially multiply things enough. With the 12 games, the 1 buck was 500k. Now it's like few levels short with just 8. Only gets to 2800.

And then all underdogs is bad cause last sunday was only like 3 that won. So if you do a super shitload of combinations with them.. I don't know if it'd pay out good.

Loading them in here then going to round robins and drop down menu to goliath cost 247, does 247 parlay.. potential payout 14k.

Let me scrub those and load the favorites instead see what it said the potential payout of the goliath would be. This is also not selecting any with the B, banker.. that's for some team you like but that's a bad idea with these combinations, I bet. lol.

ok loaded up the favorites.. that 7/8 that's what I did.. cost 8 bucks, did 8 bets, potential payout 323. Changing the drop down menu with those to the goliath.. cost 247, does 247 parlay bet combinations, potential payout, 2790.

Now.. there's this B, banker button you can click on a team when they're loaded in the round robin. That's if you like a team. So it'll limit things and be less combinations.

Going to the max type.. it has super heinz instead of goliath. costs 120 doing 120 bets instead of 247. Nevermind this B banker type for a team you like.

I wonder if you did a goliath of the favorites to win, costing 247.. then another set of this with the underdogs.. costing another 247. So 500 bucks for both of these mega parlay all combinations. I wonder how much you'd make and would it pay for the 500.

If I can get my betting money up.. I'll try both of these on NFL games sometime. lol.

Just those 3 underdogs that won last sunday.. if you were to do a 1 parlay with the teams that won. Well, the 12 included the monday night game that hasn't happened yet.

favorites that won: browns 1.67 dolphins 1.25 chiefs 1.22 saints 1.40 rams 1.33 49ers 1.12 bills 1.77 ravens 1.55

underdogs that won: buccs 2.45 texans 2.45 panthers 2.30

adding.. tonite it'll be either the eagles 1.59 or seahawks 2.40

if it's the eagles

1.67 x 1.25 x 1.22 x 1.40 x 1.33 x 1.12 x 1.77 x 1.55 x 2.45 x 2.45 x 2.30 x 1.59 = 319x or 319 bucks at 1 buck bet.

if it's the seahawks

1.67 x 1.25 x 1.22 x 1.40 x 1.33 x 1.12 x 1.77 x 1.55 x 2.45 x 2.45 x 2.30 x 2.40 = 482x or 482 bucks at 1 buck bet

Meanwhile.. if all the underdogs won.. you'd get $478,765 on a 1 dollar bet.

So.. this idea of buying every combination of bet.. 4000.. even at 1 buck, you'd lose if there's too many favorites. When you see some of the green dots that have a few underdogs as winners.. doesn't boost it as much as you'd think. There was 3 underdogs in there.

oh it would just generate the list of all 4000 combinations of bets you'd have to place. However.. you'd lose this week.

the winning payout on that NFL parlay

favorites that won: browns 1.67 dolphins 1.25 chiefs 1.22 saints 1.40 rams 1.33 49ers 1.12 bills 1.77 ravens 1.55

underdogs that won: buccs 2.45 texans 2.45 panthers 2.30

adding.. tonite it'll be either the eagles 1.59 or seahawks 2.40

if it's the eagles

1.67 x 1.25 x 1.22 x 1.40 x 1.33 x 1.12 x 1.77 x 1.55 x 2.45 x 2.45 x 2.30 x 1.59 = 319x or 319 bucks at 1 buck bet.

if it's the seahawks

1.67 x 1.25 x 1.22 x 1.40 x 1.33 x 1.12 x 1.77 x 1.55 x 2.45 x 2.45 x 2.30 x 2.40 = 482x or 482 bucks at 1 buck bet

Meanwhile.. if all the underdogs won.. you'd get $478,765 on a 1 dollar bet.

So.. this idea of buying every combination of bet.. 4000.. even at 1 buck, you'd lose if there's too many favorites. Was 3 underdogs in there. Doesn't boost it as much as you'd think.

NFL sunday.. suck on that. lol.. we'll see later today. lol.

so.. what are you saying here.. I'm "incorrect" with my analyzing.. well how about how a machine snafued and coughed up 1k earlier today to try and make me cash out.. so I did and the 10k bet lost after. Suck on that, bitchass nigga, with your trying to, lol.. "poo-poo" me.

well, I guess you'd be incorrect with day 2, took a cash out of 1k on a 10k bet earlier today. Was getting 15 of 17.. 16 of 18. So.. you can take your fuckin 2 cents and shove it up your ass, because you obviously lost. lol

Oh it was 16 of 18.. typo there.. So yeah left side is "favorites".. but you still get 93 bucks for 1 buck. I kinda like where I ramp it up and pick for all the other teams.. then top it off to max the 1.4m limit. Only cost 3 bucks.

I was talking to bing AI, eh.. I was like.. this is peanuts compared to me parlaying 129 soccer games at the same time today. What's the deal here with all possible combinations.. it says 4000. So.. if you flunk.. spend 4000 and get paid 93 bucks.. but on the right.. for every possible combination at 3 bucks, it'd cost you 12k. However.. if you get that one, you'd win 1.4m.

Parlay bets payout list

Parlay is doing multiple bets in 1 bet. It multiplies the odds of each. It's "exponential". One game of the bet fails, you lose.

I'm doing bets of "no goals" in soccer. Did a spreadsheet of game time, all score combinations and odds amounts. Different scores had similar payouts. So more goals doesn't mean more payout.

These were the odds.. 45 minutes into the game, right after halftime. You'd be waiting 45 minutes, was 5X. 53 minutes into the game, waiting 37 minutes, was 4X. 63 minutes in, waiting 27 minutes, was 3X. 73 minutes in, waiting 17 minutes, was 2X. 83 minutes in, waiting 7 minutes, was 1.5x. 86 minutes in, waiting 4 minutes, was 1.33x. Games finish at 90.

So how long do you want to sit, hoping they don't score a goal.

You can also go to higher X amounts than 5X, by betting in the first half. But that's too crazy. You gotta leave some time for them to get some kind of goals because you won't get 15 games all at 0-0. They tend to go hard after halftime, you'd want to leave them play for like 15 minutes. But then you'd get down to 3X.

High odds of winning where there's 5 minutes left and you do bets of no goals. You'd bet like 3 bucks you make 4 bucks.. so 3 to pay for your bet and 1 buck profit. lol. You start going to 2X, you're looking at sitting through 20 minutes of gameplay, hoping they don't score.

For these parlay bets, you'll see that you have to get into these higher X amounts to get the big bucks. 1.33X sucks. Here's the payout ratios.

This whole list is if you're doing a bet of $1. A parlay of 15 games, would still cost $1.

1.33X. So all the games would be at 1.33X. Each game, you're adding it to the 1 bet, but I'm only writing "adding" to game 2.

Game 1: $1.33 Adding Game 2: That'd be 1.33 x 1.33 = $1.77 Game 3: That'd be 1.33 x 1.33 x 1.33 = $2.35 Game 4: $3.13 Game 5: $4.16 Game 6: $5.53 Game 7: $7.36 Game 8: $9.79 Game 9: $13.02 Game 10: $17.32 Game 11: $23.03 Game 12: $30.64 Game 13: $40.74 Game 14: $54.19 Game 15: $72.07

1.5X

Game 1: $1.50 Adding Game 2: $2.25 Game 3: $3.38 Game 4: $5.06 Game 5: $7.59 Game 6: $11.39 Game 7: $17.09 Game 8: $25.63 Game 9: $38.44 Game 10: $57.67 Game 11: $86.50 Game 12: $129.75 Game 13: $194.62 Game 14: $291.93 Game 15: $437.89

2X

Game 1: $2 Adding Game 2: $4 Game 3: $8 Game 4: $16 Game 5: $32 Game 6: $64 Game 7: $128 Game 8: $256 Game 9: $512 Game 10: $1,024 Game 11: $2,048 Game 12: $4,096 Game 13: $8,192 Game 14: $16,384 Game 15: $32,768

3X

Game 1: $3 Adding Game 2: $9 Game 3: $27 Game 4: $81 Game 5: $243 Game 6: $729 Game 7: $2,187 Game 8: $6,561 Game 9: $19,683 Game 10: $59,049 Game 11: $177,147 Game 12: $531,441 Game 13: $1,594,323 Game 14: $4,782,969 Game 15: $14,348,907

4X

Game 1: $4 Adding Game 2: $16 Game 3: $64 Game 4: $256 Game 5: $1,024 Game 6: $4,096 Game 7: $16,384 Game 8: $65,536 Game 9: $262,144 Game 10: $1,048,576 Game 11: $4,194,304 Game 12: $16,777,216 Game 13: $67,108,864 Game 14: $268,435,456 Game 15: $1,073,741,824

5X

Game 1: $5 Adding Game 2: $25 Game 3: $125 Game 4: $625 Game 5: $3,125 Game 6: $15,625 Game 7: $78,125 Game 8: $390,625 Game 9: $1,953,125 Game 10: $9,765,625 Game 11: $48,828,125 Game 12: $244,140,625 Game 13: $1,220,703,125 Game 14: $6,103,515,625 Game 15: $3,051,757,8125

Cause if you look at the stats.. the cabal wouldn't like this stuff of beating them. Check comment I'm adding about Parlay bets payout list.