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deleteme1234 1 point ago +1 / -0

You had the chance to be a man and stand corrected, but flopped. Take the L.

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deleteme1234 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wrong. Will you be a man and stand corrected?

Muhammad's lineage:

  1. Muhammad
  2. Abdullah (father)
  3. Abd al-Muttalib (grandfather)
  4. Hashim ibn Abd Manaf (great-grandfather)
  5. Abd Manaf ibn Qusai (great-great-grandfather)

Zaynab's lineage:

  1. Zaynab
  2. Umayma (mother)
  3. Umayma's father (unknown name)
  4. Abd Shams ibn Abd Manaf (great-grandfather)
  5. Abd Manaf ibn Qusai (great-great-grandfather)

Common Ancestor:

Abd Manaf ibn Qusai (5 generations up from Muhammad and 5 generations up from Zaynab)

So, Muhammad and Zaynab bint Jahsh share a common ancestor 5 generations up.

In terms of cousin relationship:

Muhammad and Zaynab are 4th cousins (5 generations up to the common ancestor, then 4 generations down)


But hey, why don't you look at the mirror? Note that in the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter if you marry your first cousin... as long as it's not overly done.

Here's a list of Christian royalty who married their first cousins:

European Monarchies

  1. Queen Victoria (UK) and Prince Albert (Germany): first cousins (married in 1840)
  2. King Leopold I (Belgium) and Princess Charlotte of Wales (UK): first cousins (married in 1816)
  3. King Alfonso XII (Spain) and María de las Mercedes of Orléans (France): first cousins (married in 1878)
  4. King Louis IX (France) and Margaret of Provence (France): first cousins (married in 1234)
  5. King John (England) and Isabella of Angoulême (France): first cousins (married in 1200)
  6. King Manuel I (Portugal) and Maria of Aragon (Spain): first cousins (married in 1500)
  7. King Frederick William III (Prussia) and Louise of Mecklenburg-Strelitz (Germany): first cousins (married in 1793)

Other Christian Royalty

  1. Prince Ernst August of Hanover (Germany) and Princess Victoria Louise of Prussia (Germany): first cousins (married in 1913)
  2. Grand Duke Jean of Luxembourg and Princess Joséphine-Charlotte of Belgium: first cousins (married in 1953)
  3. King Haakon VII (Norway) and Princess Maud of Wales (UK): first cousins (married in 1896)
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deleteme1234 1 point ago +1 / -0

I called you out on your false claim:

muhammed's example of marrying a 1st cousin

..and instead of acting like a man and recognizing you're wrong, you went off on a tirade.

had lots of wives

Sure did. Like many leaders before him and many after him. Some wives were older than him, some younger, and the last one (a political marriage to soothen tribal tensions) was, indeed, a woman of child-bearing age, which we now classify as unacceptable, but which was acceptable and common by the norms of the era.


FYI:

List of estimated age ranges for royal brides in various ancient cultures, along with notable examples:

Ancient Mesopotamia (Sumeria, Babylon, Assyria): 12-15 years old

  • Enheduanna (married King Sargon of Akkad at 14)
  • Tashlultum (married King Sargon of Akkad at 12)

Ancient Egypt (New Kingdom): 12-15 years old

  • Nefertiti (married Pharaoh Akhenaten at 14-15)
  • Kiya (married Pharaoh Akhenaten at 12-13)
  • Meritamen (married Pharaoh Ramses II at 12)
  • Hatshepsut-Meryetre (married Pharaoh Thutmose III at 12)
  • Pharaoh Hatshepsut (married at 12)
  • Cleopatra VII (married at 18)

Ancient Greece (Aristocratic): 14-18 years old

  • Helen of Sparta (married King Menelaus at 16)
  • Andromache (married Prince Hector at 14)
  • Iphigenia (married Prince Achilles at 12-13)

Ancient Rome (Patrician): 12-15 years old

  • Livia Drusilla (married Emperor Augustus at 19)
  • Octavia Minor (married Emperor Claudius at 12)

Ancient Persia (Achaemenid Empire): 12-14 years old

  • Stateira II (married King Artaxerxes II at 14)
  • Parysatis (married King Darius II at 12)
  • Princess Esther (married King Ahasuerus at 12-14)

Ancient Israel (Royal): 12-14 years old

  • Michal (married King David at 12-14)
  • Abigail (married King David at 14-16)
  • Rebecca (married Isaac at 10-12)

Ancient China (Han Dynasty): 13-16 years old

  • Empress Shangguan (married Emperor Wu of Han at 13)

Byzantine Empire: 12-15 years old

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deleteme1234 2 points ago +2 / -0

The reason the IDF war criminals are having PTSD and commiting suicide is simple: they cannot live with the atrocities they did and witnessed, despite their lies and normalization attempts about baby terrorists.

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deleteme1234 1 point ago +1 / -0

Muslims living in Israel has the same rights as the Jews living there do.

Lolololol. Okay Shlomo.

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deleteme1234 1 point ago +1 / -0

muhammed's example of marrying a 1st cousin

Wrong.