Hello! just circling back here. Would love to show you a demonstrative example of why push and pull are fundamentally different, such as when you look at the effects that they have on an object.
When an object is pushed, it will experience a sensation of compression, where the molecules of the object are pushed closer together.
When an object is pulled, it will experience a sensation of tension, where the molecules would be pulled further apart.
Does this make sense?
Well your answer wasn’t totally clear relative to what I was asking due to my poor wording of the original ask, so I am just making sure we are on the same page.
Are you aware that tension and compression have different relative effects on an object, yes or no?
Yes, but we are only talking about one simple object here
Sorry, my wording of the question may have confused you. I’ll ask another way
Before I begin with my example of how direction bears a significant difference in terms of force, are you aware of tension and compression, and the respective effects they have on an object?
I still haven't found any. It gets to be more and more apparent that you are incorrect in this.
not a real distinction on the force itself
Yes, it is a major distinction.
Provide an example
Certainly!
Before I begin, are you familiar with compression and tension forces, and how they affect objects?
but since you want to give up
Read again my previous comment. I am not giving up. I have been searching. I have not found one.
The direction is arbitrary
Read again my previous comment. It is not arbitrary. It is what defines the difference.
The object feels/experiences/is subjected to the same force (push) no matter which direction that force comes from.
This is demonstrably false.
Perhaps not in such a gross way. It is more proper to say that forces can only push, and that pull has no mechanism in classical deterministic physics.
I have not found one person, aside from you, that has this stance.
why don't you discuss my perspective with me instead?
Because you said others share your perspective, and I would like to read about it, because you aren't as forthcoming with information.
but since you want to quit looking
I don't want to quit looking. I have done some digging each time we comment, and I have yet to find anyone.
In reality there is no difference, save for direction, when the object is pushed in one direction, or pushed in another
The primary difference is the direction from which the force is applied, that distinguishes push and pull.
You can find physicists from that era who share this view, but it may be easier if you go back further.
Again, I have gone back further. I have not found one that says that push is the only force. I assure you I have given a fair shake and looked at many different classical and modern physicists and have not found any that support this.
There is no better source for my perspective than me
We're not just talking about your perspective though. You claim that other scientists share your perspective, I'm unable to find one.
The answer is, you are pushing your hand, which in turn pushes on the superglue, which pushes on the eraser.
But I'm not pushing. I'm pulling. I'm bringing it towards me.
Have you never used the word "pull" in your life?
Could I pick one from his list, and ask that to you?