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Jacobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

You missed the resetting of the calendar at year zero

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Jacobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

You’ll need to read it more carefully.

Read Isaiah 19 for example. Their blueprint is laid out there quite starkly and they have repeated the trick multiple times throughout history and continue to do so today.

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Jacobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don’t trust the Bible as a trusted source because the Bible is fairly explicit in its outcomes - that all mains and peoples shall be subservient to the Israelites ie Jews which is what you see unfolding in the modern world. I think that those who see the Bible as a trusted source are subject to trust most fundamental lie. The ‘god’ that you speak of, declared himself god over only one race and decreed that they alone should have sovereignty and stewardship over all other races. He acknowledged the existence of other gods and even declared his tactics to ruin empires and overthrow other cultures and these were so successful that you have people in the modern day swearing fealty to a hostile foreign god and declaring him ‘god’ above all others. Until the god of Israel (ie biblical god) is eradicated from consciousness, I don’t believe there is any push back to true free will

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Jacobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just don’t like seeing people be drawn into cults. Especially ones that despise their very essence

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Jacobin 0 points ago +1 / -1

only insofar as Jews actually do run everything and actually do have us enslaved and worshipping their god. Thats the best objective metric for the truth of the bible - that we already ARE the servants of Jews and that they are the 'light of the nations' ie they rule over us indirectly and that their god has somehow successfully replaced our own.

Remember they prophesied that the nations would foreswear their own ancestors and grab the hem of their garments saying 'God is with you'.

Yeah, they certainly brought that about. But through cunning rather than anything divine. Still, prophecy fulfilled.

The difference is, some of us are NOT suffering from Stockholm syndrome about it...

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Jacobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

and just a few short verses later...

They Shall Be My People; I Will Be Their God Jer 32:36  And now therefore thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, concerning this city, whereof ye say, It shall be delivered into the hand of the king of Babylon by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence;  Jer 32:37  Behold, I will gather them out of all countries, whither I have driven them in mine anger, and in my fury, and in great wrath; and I will bring them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely:  Jer 32:38  And they shall be my people, and I will be their God:  Jer 32:39  And I will give them one heart, and one way, that they may fear me for ever, for the good of them, and of their children after them:  Jer 32:40  And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me. 

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Jacobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

what do you mean by 'an inference to the best explanation'? I'm just unsure what that sentence means. Did you choose the right terms here?

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Jacobin -1 points ago +1 / -2

Jesus said many times over that he has only come for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He wanted nothing to do with the non-israelites.

In fact, he used 'gentiles' as as an example of what NOT to be in the Sermon on the Mount and when he sent his apostles out, he gave them the explicit instruction to stay away from gentiles. So, all the words of Jesus which you think are so beautiful and full of salvation etc are not FOR you - they are exlusively for Israel

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Jacobin 0 points ago +2 / -2

Abraham is the ancestor of Israel. It's an ancestral myth and doesn't expand gods portfolio of people whatsoever. God clearly states many times throughout the bible that he only the god of israel and he clearly has a hateful, disdainful view of all the peoples and nations who are not israel.

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Jacobin 1 point ago +2 / -1

this is not an elite research forum - its turned into a bit of a christian echo-chamber populated by just a tint handful of the same people.

If it were really elite research then how come you just adopt all the brainless interpretations of the bible that have been handed to you, rather than having read the thing yourself and uncovered the obvious...?!?!

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Jacobin -1 points ago +1 / -2

Abraham Isaac and Jacob - all a precursor to Israel.

This Jewish ancestral myth doesn't incorporate anyone other than Israel. God says he is EXCLUSIVELY the god of israel and all us other nations and people can either serve his people, lick the dust off their feet, or perish

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Jacobin -1 points ago +2 / -3

to be a christian is to be a 'jew who says they are a jew but are not, and do lie'. To be a christian is to be a 'jew in name only' and one of those pretenders whom Jesus in the book of Revelation had such disdain for. Jews and muslims would count as these false jews.

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Jacobin 0 points ago +2 / -2

thats not what I say - it's what he says all throughout the bible. Nowhere in the Bible will you see god claiming to be the god of any other people than israel

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Jacobin 2 points ago +3 / -1

Your link purports to be examples of god being the only go, but includes this as one of the examples:

Exodus 20:3 “You shall have no other gods before me.” – Exodus 20:3

an acknowledgment that there are other gods.

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Jacobin 1 point ago +2 / -1

what do you mean 'no'? Are you saying he doesn't refer to himself as the god of israel?

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Jacobin -1 points ago +1 / -2

Simply not true. To be a Christian is to acknowledge that there is a master race above you whom it is your destiny to serve.

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Jacobin 1 point ago +2 / -1

No, he is called the Lord God of Israel to distinguish himself from his competitor gods, of whom he was jealous. The name denotes who he is the god of -the people Israel. Whereas all other people had their own gods. Like Moab, Chemosh, Diana, Thor, et al

Those gods were of course later banned via the successful conquest of the Jewish religion and its offshoots Islam and Christianity. Our own native gods, religions and ancestors were considered persona non-grata, lumped together as 'goyim', 'gentile', 'kafir' or 'pagan' and systematically destroyed and replaced by this god of a hostile foreign people who believe themselves to be destined to rule over us all.

He's the Lord God of Israel and of NO-ONE else.

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Jacobin 0 points ago +3 / -3

If you must talk about ‘the Lord’ and ‘God’, can you at least be respectful and give him his full title please? He is ‘The Lord God of Israel’

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Jacobin 3 points ago +3 / -0

Just for my awareness, are the majority of people here on a side of this debate?

Do people generally accept that the media and alt media talking heads like Candace and Kirk are true and honest figureheads for whatever debate they happen to be having?

Or is there any who believe that this is all a Punch and Judy, scripted puppet show down to and including the alleged assassination of Charlie Kirk.

Was the assassination a plot device of a grander Psy Op narrative or was it real and all this is a legitimate aftermath and inquiry?

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

They do. And they all have collective nouns to refer to people who don’t share their own beliefs. For Christian’s, they are called ‘Pagans’ but Pagan isn’t a thing in and of itself - it’s just a term that denotes non-Christian.

So referring to ‘pagans’ as having a false belief set is erroneous, since it incorporates a multitude of unrelated, unconnected belief sets as well as those with no belief set whatsoever.

It is a valueless term outside of the Christian cult

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Pagan isn’t “belief set”, it’s a collective noun to refer to non-Abrahamists

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

What’s wrong with being ‘pagan’?

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Charlie Kirk is a TV character and you are here like all fans of TV shows discussing the plot twists and intricacies of the characters arc in the story.

Charlie Kirk wasn’t a real person and he wasn’t actually killed. His character was killed off in this reality TV show and worn out of the story.

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