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Graphenium 1 point ago +2 / -1

You’ve made zero posts to this community in the year+ you’ve have an account. Why all the sudden interest in what gets posted or removed?

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Graphenium 0 points ago +2 / -2

Is that statement wrong though?

Is it evidence or even an argument for the flat earth?

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Graphenium 2 points ago +3 / -1

Oh, so flat eartherism is clearly delineable from those other conspiracies as being baseless.

Glad we agree.

Why start your paragraph with “to be fair” though? And why did you end it with a reference to the graviton? Not sure I follow

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Graphenium 3 points ago +4 / -1

It does - however, personally, after my decade plus in the “community” allowing people who are wannabe priests of the cult of FE (note - NOT the honest, but misinformed seekers you describe) free reign results in more of those “lost souls” you mention turning away, never to return.

Is that at least plausible to you? That people could be turned off of the community because of the (undue, artificial, astroturfed even) prominence of certain voices?

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Graphenium 2 points ago +3 / -1

Since when has censorship been anything but bad?

Since bad actors realized that people’s reflexive desire for the nebulous and undefined concept of “freedom” (“as long as it’s LEGAL!”) is a potent tool for muddying the waters of honest, good faith pursuit of truth.

So, uhhh, a while back now.

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Graphenium 3 points ago +4 / -1

All that can be expressed, and in a far more intelligent, cohesive, and non-schitzophrenic manner by discussing, for example, Gödel’s proof of the incompleteness of any symbolic logic system.

Or by crafting a well made post on philosophy and world view, perhaps with a focus on alethiology and the pursuit of truth.

It doesnt require fabricating a metric fuckton of fake “proofs” and misinterpreted “evidence”, which is a fundamental prerequisite of FE, or “birds aren’t real” or any of the other goto forum slides out there.

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Graphenium 0 points ago +2 / -2

ApparentlyImAHeretic 6 points 2 hours ago in my opinion this is the best arguments for banning flat earth for sure. I don't believe it's origins are sincere in the least. nevertheless I have had the misfortune of meeting real people in the wild who actually believe it.

Try to finish reading before you shit yourself and start smearing it everywhere dipshit

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Graphenium 1 point ago +2 / -1

Wait, you’re calling the noticing of astroturfing and widespread subversion/manipulation which was literally admin endorsed “boogey men”? As if it wasn’t actually a problem?

Lmao

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Graphenium 0 points ago +2 / -2

That guy has a better track record as a contributor than you, yet you accuse him of being a shill. Ergo you’re either a fucking retard or a shill yourself. Neither of those lend themselves to productive contributions

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Graphenium 2 points ago +3 / -1

You mean... the site we all left because it was bursting at the seams with inauthentic “movements” and astroturfing from fake accounts?

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Graphenium 1 point ago +3 / -2

Shut up, if you aren’t a shill all you’re doing is undermining the point of actual subversion by accusing everyone who disagrees with you.

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Graphenium 2 points ago +5 / -3

Every single FE “proof” you could ever point to was debunked over a decade ago. Elsewhere.

There is no conspiracy.

The Great Pyramid is a scale model of the Northern Hemisphere

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Graphenium 3 points ago +4 / -1

Maybe the goal isn’t some nebulous and undefinable “freedom” but instead fostering a place where generative, productive discussions can occur

/> user has never made a post on c/conspiracies

Fuck I need to start checking that before I respond.

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Graphenium 1 point ago +3 / -2

Ehhhh - we all left r*ddit for, among other things, their carebear censorship policies (but I don’t think any of us left because of how Flat Earth was treated there) so I kind of feel we need some leniency on stuff like ending your sentence with “what are you, retarded”. Maybe I’m wrong on that.

But what I can see making sense is the removal (on a gradient obviously) of “one issue posters” - they do fly in the face of the principle of genuine good faith discussion.

I think I’ve seen you on KiA, so i mean someone like imp coming here and only posting his crazy shit about {women} being behind everything wrong with the world. Same for the people who blame their stubbed toe on the bankers, same for the people who derail conversations by trying to shoehorn FE into every single comment they make.

So to combine our points - if someone’s only contribution was derision and derailment, I think they’d do well with some kind of (community? Meta posts? Private? idk) talking to, moving up if they keep things up

But I agree, the approach of “should we ban this topic” seems to have had so many “potential“ drawbacks attached that the core matter got glossed over for a discussion on freedom of speech. However like 800 comments in the vote thread and easily another 200 across other threads shows these are important issues for many/all of us

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Graphenium 2 points ago +3 / -1

Their opinion matters less than people actively trying to build the site and the community

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Graphenium 0 points ago +4 / -4

It’s so obvious now! How could we “skeptics” and “non-mongoloids” have been so dumb!

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Graphenium 1 point ago +3 / -2

Wahoo guys!!!! Bid, I mean Flerlf got 80 million votes!

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Graphenium 4 points ago +6 / -2

What we should be doing is endeavoring to ban all bad faith discussion, which is a lot more difficult for sure.

Any ideas/suggestions?

Lots of “no”s - very few “here’s what could work instead”

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Graphenium 1 point ago +2 / -1

Ok dude, there’s definitely no problem with the subversion of these spaces by bad actors.

Flat Earthers are the good guys - hell, THEY MIGHT EVEN BE RIGHT!!! WHO KNOWS!!! OBJECTIVE TRUTH? IM NOT EVEN SURE THAT EXISTS!!!

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Graphenium 1 point ago +2 / -1

This site is for reading

Sounds like wikipedia...this site is for discussion, which is a two way street (requires contributions from everyone) - and more specifically - productive discussion of actual conspiracies

Are there any conspiracies too retarded for you? Should we let people flood post “birds are robots” posts? Should we let the furries come here and post about a conspiracy to suppress their fursonas? Should we let reddit leftists come here and post about “the racist conspiracy of systematic oppression of the BIPOCLGBTQS7s”?

You’d think a trump supporter would understand the value of borders.

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Graphenium 2 points ago +3 / -1

>user has never posted a thread before

Cmon bruh

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Graphenium -2 points ago +4 / -6

>the vitriol that's directed at {homosexuals with aids} and {their} supporters makes me wonder...

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Graphenium 7 points ago +11 / -4

>user has never posted to c/conspiracies before

Uh huh... lot of that going around these days....

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Graphenium -1 points ago +1 / -2

All great users. Certainly head and shoulders above a mental midget like you

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