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(Objection ai) Can AI judge journalism? A Thiel-backed startup says yes, even if it risks chilling whistleblowers (scored.co)
posted 14 days ago by Thisisnotanexit 14 days ago by Thisisnotanexit +6 / -0
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– Another_rando 4 points 13 days ago +4 / -0

AI that isn't prompted for deception, doesn't exist in this world.

Theil backed means it should be obvious that this is just another tool to control narrative. This tool will firm up the position that nukes are real, viruses are contagious and cause illness, that veggies are good for us, that the earth is a ball floating in space, that gravity explains why things fall, that climate change your is real, that elections are real, that the Holocaust meant genocide, that the trail of tears was caused by the flu, and much more dumb shit that we are all conditioned to believe from a young age.

Do not expect anything true from Objection.ai. Nothing good comes from these con-men

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– Thisisnotanexit [S] 3 points 13 days ago +3 / -0

I concur that this is not good.

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– Primate98 3 points 13 days ago +3 / -0

... or face demerits for protecting sources who share important information at great personal risk.

When is the last documented case of a source who was harmed for sharing important information? If that number is above zero, we can compare it to the number of lying jackasses making up bullshit that got published by the mainstream media for propaganda and political purposes. Also useful to compare it to the number that were ever held accountable for generating and propagating bullshit.

The world is as it has long been, and Thucydides said it two and a half millennia ago in the Melian Dialog:

The strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must.

Much of what goes on in discourse and analysis of the world serves only to obfuscate this state of affairs. Trump is called a "king" by those who crusade for whatever they're calling justice that day, yet that king is constantly overruled by judges whose names you've never heard and who you most certainly never voted either for or against.

So who are the strong in this scenario? Where shall we say the power lies? No one seems to care to discuss that. It's not visible on the org chart, that's for sure.

So here, the problem lies not with AI and journalism, per se, but it is simply another authority for the NPCs to point to when they like what the machine is saying about that journalism.

The mere fact that anyone puts any faith whatsoever in anything labeled "journalism" these days is much closer to the trouble.

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– Thisisnotanexit [S] 3 points 13 days ago +3 / -0

Problem, reaction, solution strikes again!
Journos are often compromised and/or severely misinformed and people outsourcing their own God given brain ability is one among many ongoing casualties. Tragic.

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– Primate98 2 points 13 days ago +2 / -0

As far as outsourcing thinking, I learned something recently which I found provides a crucial insight on this. It concerns something which would be considered humorous and trivial:

This Scammer Used an AI-Generated MAGA Girl to Grift ‘Super Dumb’ Men (Wired 4/21/2026)

The anomaly is buried deep in the article:

The same logic, however, apparently does not apply to left-wing influencer accounts, as Sam learned when he created a short-lived liberal counterpart for Emily on Instagram: “Democrats know that it’s AI slop, so they don’t engage as much.” (Sam’s explanation for why MAGA influencer accounts work is blunt: “The MAGA crowd is made up of dumb people—like, super dumb people. And they fall for it.”)

"Liberal Emily" was not accepted by them as an "authority figure", and getting their reality from "authorities" is what basically characterizes liberals. More precisely, the authorities they grew up with were liberal and their level of consciousness simply entrained them to that.

Obviously it's not that half of us are dumb and the other half are also dumb and so we're all dumb. Sam--who is dumb--doesn't get the subtle phenomenon that has been revealed (or confirmed, since I realized a while back that this is what was happening).

Detecting AI is a pretty advanced exercise of our powers of observation and reasoning. You can do it and I can do it and we see that even Democrats can do it. Mostly it's subconscious and happens almost instantly. We get a "feeling" then we can look for specific evidence.

The difference, though, is that our subconscious also decides when it is "permissible" for that reasoning to prevail. For Democrats in this instance, it was harmless to come to this conclusion so they "recognized" it right away.

On the flip side, Gavin Newsom has been CGI since early 2022. He even got reelected. No one seems to have noticed this. It's better than slop but still detectable. The difference, though, is that it's a worldview-shattering conclusion to recognize such a deception. So it does not get recognized.

Same thing goes for the recent very obvious Netanyahu AI fakes. Whatever individuals "saw" or "did not see", no one came away thinking, "Ohhh, given that, I've been the dumbshit and on the wrong side all along, haven't I?" No, the actual function of our consciousness is to protect us from such upsetting realizations.

Well, the consciousness level varies by person. To ensure the development of your consciousness, one should strive to think, "Ohhh, given that, I've been the dumbshit and on the wrong side all along, haven't I?" as often as appropriate.

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– Dregan_ya 2 points 13 days ago +2 / -0

Its pretty obvious why theses massive data centers are popping up worldwide.

To surveil everything that walks on the planet needs to be stored somewhere.

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