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(Semi) Serious question. How does "space is fake" square with "the government is hiding the UFOs and reverse engineering them"? Or is it that the "space is fake / flat earth" people are all different than the "UFO truth" people? If so, I guess they are at odds with one another within the larger "truth movement"?
There is actually something a bit funny in there, but I have a sense of humor like that. Someone should flush this out, a big rift between "flat earth / space is fake" and "the deep state is reverse engineering the alien technology" subsets of the wider truth movement, fighting over which direction "truth" is going to go.
If it is not obvious, I think both are false.
I think a lot of the flat community rationalizes ufo as extra dimensional negative entities. With that caveat you can have both. Because it's still reasonable to theorize that governments would make deals with them or reverse engineer their tech as well.
So the globe is obviously an absurdity, but the aliens are real, and since they could not come from space (how would they cross the firmament?), they must be extra dimensional negative entities?
Wow. Well, thanks for the explanation I guess.
We should flush this out. We can add a round table on this or you can make a post and I'll sticky for visibility, if you'd like.
Honestly, if there are people here with these opinions, I am sort of interested to see what they say. My opinion is that the description of space is largely correct at least at solar system scales, the space program largely happened as described although some imagery was "enhanced" (a polite word for "faked" lol) for propaganda purposes, and aliens very likely exist and even advanced ones probably do but they have not come here.
So this would not really be something for me to hash out I guess. I was more interested whether (1) are there people who strongly believe one of these who therefore say we must strongly reject the other and (2) are there people who believe both and if so how is it reconciled.
Space is lied about enough to be called fake, and the government is indeed reverse-engineering UFO tech as it has for 5,000+ years. Would love to flesh this out.
Yeah, I have a difficult time understanding how the governments have 5000 years of reverse engineering highly advanced alien technology but they are supposedly unable to go to the moon so they need to fake it.
In my opinion, the space program is largely real but some of the images are doctored for propaganda purposes. The advanced aliens may exist, who knows, but they are not here.
I like part fake and part real. Maybe #13 was fake (astronauts never in danger) just to prove they could snow all the people if they had need to, even though they knew they could go back when needed.
I have not taken the time to verify where the videos came from, but I have seen many of the moon hoax and flat earth documentaries and I will admit, as a glober who thinks the moon landings happened largely as described, that those videos are obviously evidence that NASA passes off CGI to the public. The only explanation for the astronauts going static and blinking in and out while the background remains steady is that it is CGI.
So there is an "out" that those videos are themselves faked. To be thorough, I would have to verify that they did come from NASA as supposed ISS feed. But assuming they are real, IMO that does not prove that the space program is fake. Like I have said elsewhere, a few weeks ago there were a bunch of obviously fake videos of Netanyahu, leading to theories about his death. Now, most everyone says he is probably alive. So those videos were released for a different reason. I can think of a few reasons why the government might try to pass off CGI as real video to the public other than hiding a secret.
Other than that, overall I have found the various conspiracy documentaries about NASA and especially the Apollo program to be pretty weak. Some are flat earth of course. But even those that agree with the size and shape of the earth and distance to the moon and just say that the landing was fake tend to appeal to things that are just wrong. Like the "phone call on the moon" for example, or the rocket "turning sideways and going out (and falling into) the ocean." No one ever explains why the phone call on the moon is impossible. And in addition to the rocket turning sideways being the correct (i.e. most efficient) way to get to space, NASA even says that the first stage falls into the ocean.
So, if I am going to take someone claiming that all of NASA is a hoax seriously, they need to be serious enough to not say stupid stuff like this.
Very long winded thing to say, but basically the lie about the shape of the Earth to hide that the ETs come from beyond the ice walls and using portal warp spacecrafts. Come on X and comment, I have everything there laid out. Search my page. Only 3 ways to exit firmament.