Had this as a link post but it was saying, "Watch video on YouTube, Error 153, Video player configuration error". Deleted it and doing a text discussion instead.
Trying to clear out some of the bookmarks bar. Resuming this one from the other week.
"CALLING EARTH (Afterlife communication via modern electronics)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNNdutCP00
I'm up to 40 minutes and they were talking about EVP, then ITC. Now they're getting into voice phone calls.
Earlier this evening was looking into some of this. Never really heard about ITC. You'd hear about EVP's though. But they're pretty bad. It seems like it's hard for them to get through for very long. They're not "talking". They use things like white noise or something to form sound transmission.
I was talking to Gemini about this but deleted the conersation. About like, what's going on here, where they have a narrow window and most EVP's are only like less than a few seconds. Seems like it's hard for them to get energy to transmit.
Then this ITC, they mentioned a site.. but it was down. Wayback, you could see some of these images. They looked like double exposure. Let me check my browser history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voice_phenomenon
In there they talk about ITC.
This was an interesting one, where a lady on a computer before the internet.. all of a sudden had a screen with text.
https://macyafterlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/arthurbeckwithletter.jpg
They looked into what this guy was trying to transmit and these people from the 1800's checked out. What's up with the mis-spellings though and wrong caps. You'd think it would figure that out. Like his name, he did the inverse with lower case start letters and caps rest.
ok this was that site.. worlditc.org but the guy probably died, so doesn't connect any more.
Oh wait, maybe it's not down.. it's that it's not using https, but http
"This site can’t provide a secure connection worlditc.org uses an unsupported protocol. ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH"
Checking the wayback and still loads up from this year, so maybe who runs it isn't dead. It's like a 2000's html type pages.
https://web.archive.org/web/20250124133305/https://worlditc.org/
Let's get the visual images where they seem like the faces are double exposure, for whatever reason.
See.. this is old html.. bottom says "rodiehr Dec 17, 2002 - updated Dec 18, 2007"
This stuff is interesting though, man.
It's not good though.. cause just for EVP's, they're saying, oh you gotta try to talk to them. Then I'm there.. hey have they tried using Ouija boards to get things going. That's like how you talk to them too, verbally as you're trying to do this. You're attracting negative entities.. and they could be lying about who they claim. Same shit with this. You don't want to try to open communication with the other side by asking them stuff and inviting them in. You'll lose and get negative entity attachment. Yet they're trying to make it look like, oh it's my "loved one" who's trying to say hey. I don't think so.. this 'll totally be "demonic entities" who are "lying". So.. it's probably the same thing with the ITC, visual aspect, where they're faking that too, I bet.
What exactly is going on here, how the EVP's "close window", very shortly after they transmit. What is going on with the earth field, or something, where they can't keep holding it for very long.
[part 1] This is interesting.. Researchers who died, then try to contact other researchers. Like this guy who gives him technical info of how to capture stuff. What's he saying here.. like what kind of equipment. Maybe somebody can try it.
there's actually a tradition of 43:48 ITC researchers passing on going to the other side then contacting researchers 43:54 on this side according to many ITC researchers the Undisputed Champion among afterlife communicators is the 44:00 lvan born experimenter Constantine Riva a psychologist philosopher professor and 44:06 author who spoke a half dozen languages and died in 1974 there literally scores possibly 44:13 hundreds of people who received his voice through electronic voice 44:21 phenomenon and he's spoken dozens of times through radio and telephone this 44:26 Constantin Riv speaking constant I'm as fine as a dead one can 44:37 Bey my dear friend will bring our greetings to call 44:44 me morning this is George Meek this is Constantin 44:50 R George my friend at last we succeeded in protecting you this is the first Rich 45:00 be succeeded to build to the 45:05 states Mark was connected it was a spring morning in 1992 when I received 45:11 my first telephone call from the other side from Constantine Riva Mark Macy had 45:16 been preparing to conduct an ITC experiment involving very low frequency radio Transmissions according to Macy 45:23 the caller identified himself as Riva and off advice regarding his experiment 45:28 he had no way to record phone calls at the time but he was prepared when the caller rang 45:34 again hello yes I'll try to make it clearer this time it's a 45:42 VF receiving converter okay you'll simply connect the VF converter to your 45:50 agf radius antenna input and a suitable vs antenna 45:56 the conversation lasted for several minutes the caller's voice was clear as a bell and his advice regarding Macy's 46:03 experiment was sophisticated and technically impeccable 46:09 4145 KZ respectively okay Wonder technical advice from this 46:18 side thank you very much
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Here.. I'll input this whole thread contents and this last post in Google Gemini AI. It'll say more about what this equipment and frequencies were.. if somebody wants to try that out.
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It sounds like you've fallen down a fascinating rabbit hole with Instrumental Transcommunication (ITC). The documentary "Calling Earth" is a deep dive into how these researchers believe modern technology acts as a bridge to another dimension.
Regarding your specific questions about the "narrow window" of EVP/ITC and the technical advice Constantine Raudive was giving from "the other side," here is what the documentary and the researchers explain:
Why is the "Window" so Short? You noticed that most EVPs are only a couple of seconds long. The documentary addresses this directly:
The 1.75 Second Rule: Researcher Alexander McCrae noted that EVP phrases cluster around 1.74 seconds [25:12].
The "River" Analogy: He describes it like standing on opposite sides of a river; you can shout "hello," but the "contact breaks down" almost immediately [25:21].
Energy and Synthesis: The theory is that these entities aren't "talking" with vocal cords. Instead, they are synthesizing sounds out of available background noise (like white noise, fans, or radio static) [35:14]. This process is seemingly exhausting or technically difficult to maintain, leading to the "poetic shorthand" often heard in recordings [25:35].
The Technical Advice from Constantine Raudive The segment you found around 45:00 is one of the most famous "Technical ITC" cases. Mark Macy claims he received phone calls from Constantine Raudive (who died in 1974) providing specific instructions to improve his results:
The Equipment: Raudive told Macy to use a VLF (Very Low Frequency) receiving converter [45:42].
The Setup: He instructed Macy to connect this converter to his HF (High Frequency) radio's antenna input and use a "suitable VLF antenna" [45:50].
Specific Frequencies: He even gave specific kilohertz numbers—4145 kHz—as a target for the experiments [46:09].
The Outcome: Macy noted that the advice was "sophisticated and technically impeccable," which convinced him it wasn't a random prank [46:03].
Visual ITC and "Double Exposures" The images you saw on the archived worlditc.org site (and in the doc) often look like double exposures or "mask-like" faces.
Klaus Schreiber’s Video Loop: One of the pioneers, Klaus Schreiber, used a video feedback loop (pointing a camera at a monitor showing the camera's own feed) to create a field of "unstable forms" that spirits could allegedly manipulate into faces [01:01:24].
The "Jurgenson" TV Image: The documentary shows the famous 1987 image of Friedrich Jürgenson appearing on a friend's TV at the exact moment of his burial. It features a strange distortion—a grossly enlarged ear—which researchers argue is a sign of a "direct mental projection" rather than a simple photo hoax [01:19:37].
A Note on Your "Negative Entities" Concern The documentary leans heavily toward the "loved ones" and "scientific research" angle, but it does mention that practitioners like the "Big Circle" group believe the individual's intention and the emotional bond are the most important parts of the "circuit" [34:53].
If you're worried about the "Ouija board" effect of inviting in whatever is listening, many of these researchers suggest keeping a "regular appointment" and a focused, calm mind (sometimes using meditation) to ensure the "vibration" of the contact remains positive [35:39].
The site you mentioned, worlditc.org, was indeed Mark Macy's hub. Since it's an older HTTP site, many modern browsers block it for security reasons, but as you found, the Wayback Machine is a great way to view those early 2000s "spirit captures" without the security headaches.
ok what about that end part.. what was this equipment and frequencies the dead researcher guy was talking about.. what was it for.. so they could communicate better? What kind of equipment and frequencies.. for what.. voice calls?
In the documentary, the "dead researcher" is identified as Constantine Raudive (a famous EVP pioneer who died in 1974). He reportedly called researcher Mark Macy in 1992 to give him specific technical blueprints to move beyond short, grainy EVP bursts and achieve clearer, sustained communication.
The Equipment The goal of the equipment Raudive described was to bridge the gap between "their" dimension and ours using a more stable frequency than just random background noise.
VLF (Very Low Frequency) Receiving Converter: Raudive told Macy to get a VLF converter [45:42]. VLF waves are much longer than standard radio waves and are often used for things like submarine communication because they can penetrate deeply through obstacles.
HF (High Frequency) Radio: Macy was instructed to connect the VLF converter to the antenna input of his High Frequency radio [45:50].
VLF Antenna: He also specified that a "suitable VLF antenna" was required for the setup to work correctly [45:56].
The Frequencies Raudive provided specific frequencies to tune into, most notably:
4145.0 kHz (Kilohertz): This was a specific target frequency mentioned for the experiments [46:09].
What was it for? The purpose wasn't just for a one-time "voice call," but to build a permanent bridge or "station" for communication:
Stability: Most EVPs are "synthesized" from random noise and last less than two seconds because the energy is hard to hold [25:12]. This equipment was meant to provide a more stable electronic "field" for the entities to manipulate.
Clarity: The caller's voice in these specific experiments was described as "clear as a bell" and lasted for several minutes, unlike the typical whispers found in standard EVP [45:56].
Two-Way Technical Dialogue: Raudive used this setup to provide "technically impeccable" advice to Macy on how to improve the ITC (Instrumental Transcommunication) results [46:03].
Macy's take on it was that the advice was so sophisticated and specific that it couldn't have been a prank; it required someone with deep knowledge of both electronics and the existing ITC research [46:03].