Ive been on carnivore for a long time now. Thanks u/lasereyes for talking shit, it woke me up. anyway, it is the cure all. the science is clear and the veggie deception is obvious.
It is, but it's hard to impossible for most people. I never feel better than when I'm able to stay on carnivore, but I can never stay on for more than a month or so.
For most people, extended fasting is a more reachable goal. You need to build up to it, and you need to come off a fast slowly and gently (bone broth, butter, chicken, etc.), but it has a lot of overlap with carnivore benefits, plus depending on the scenario better healing capabilities.
It's one of those you are better off doing a bit randomly to keep your body from adapting. For example, do 24-36 hour (or even 48-hour if you can) fasts once a week or so, do 3-5 day fasts a few times a year. If you want or need you can build up to 7-day, 11-day, 21-day, 40-day, but the longer the fast the longer the interval you should have between them (e.g. only do a 40 day once every few years, but still keep your smaller 1-3 days fasts as a regular thing). I've never done more than 5 days, fwiw, but plan to.
Really, just find the thing you can do sustainably forever, whether fasting or carnivore or keto variations. Even mediterranean and paleo are fine as long as you stay away from processed foods, added sugars, etc.
Sleep and exercise are equally important. Build up to the ability to do sprints once or twice a week, do resistance training, do calisthenics, walk a lot. Too much distance running actually seems to do more harm than good to joints and organs, we are not evolved for it, but whatever works for you do it.
how can you not stay on carnivore? its so easy. i spent most my adult life thinking meat was bad for me, so now, its like living the fucking dream everyday. i buy 900 bucks worth of wild meats, pasture raised pork fat, line caught fish, and liver, heart, frigging everything. it does take a lot of cooking. and when you go out to eat, people sometimes make comments why you dont eat your veggies, but i find this is the easiest diet in the world...for me. sorry you have the hard time.
i used to fast, was a huge proponent of it.... now i dont need to. i do by acciencet all the time anyway.... if i have a really big cut of meat the day before, i might forget to eat for 18 hours. Like cardio, but you can still get without distance running, but nothing wrong with a 5k fun run or an hour jog in a pretty area.
Sleep and exercise are equally as important, the pillars! evolution is a hoax, like religions, but i might too far ahead of you on this for now.
Sugar addict. I have a family, so removing all carbs from the house is not remotely realistic. When you are stressed, seeing carbs in front of you, it gets hard to resist. And once you touch a carb, you crave more instantly.
This is the reality for most people who want to try. Far easier to try to stay low carb and fast regularly. I'm glad it is easier for you though.
Nothing wrong with distance running, if that works for you. Plenty of data, though, that it does wear on your body in multiple ways. A mix of walking and sprinting is closer to what we are designed for historically.
As to evolution, you can watch evolution and adaptation happen in lower species with shorter lifespans. Kinda hard to deny but I'm not going to argue about it.
my house still has crap foods, but i was never really big about sugar. i liked meat and veggies and real foods as a child. i feel for you. sugar addiction is rough.
my wife and children have tried my carnivore a few times, they actually agree that it makes them better when they feel sick, but not as . it has been my downfall numerous times. having one piece of fruit, open up a chips and beer craving. but, deciding not to take it, it makes me stronger. I still take a french fry from time to time, or a pizza slice., no one is perfect. but bouncing back from a mistake is critical skill i have developed. it gives me the staying power to stick to it in the long run.
I follow some world record ultra runners, even in their 60's. they defy "science." and the body can handle extremely long runs, one day after another. Molly Sheriton has a great story, she is running 7 marathons s on 7 continents in 7 days. She didnt even start running until she was 50 years old. I know the results of gorilla cardio, fasting, etc and how they tie to supposed evolution of homesapriens. its just half garbage mixed with some truths, best i can tell.
evolution is based on the theory that this earth is a planet in a universe (easy to disprove that theory) and had billions of years to evolve,, but when its so easy to disprove that the earth has curvature, then ALL that "foundational knowledge" of the earth and evolution is thrown out the window. but you dont get answers, just better questions.
Genotyping and minor adaptations within a species are not the same as evolution. i have a degree in biology, its mostly bullshit institutionalized garbage and i can argue all day about how stupid our scientific communities are.
Ive been on carnivore for a long time now. Thanks u/lasereyes for talking shit, it woke me up. anyway, it is the cure all. the science is clear and the veggie deception is obvious.
It is, but it's hard to impossible for most people. I never feel better than when I'm able to stay on carnivore, but I can never stay on for more than a month or so.
For most people, extended fasting is a more reachable goal. You need to build up to it, and you need to come off a fast slowly and gently (bone broth, butter, chicken, etc.), but it has a lot of overlap with carnivore benefits, plus depending on the scenario better healing capabilities.
It's one of those you are better off doing a bit randomly to keep your body from adapting. For example, do 24-36 hour (or even 48-hour if you can) fasts once a week or so, do 3-5 day fasts a few times a year. If you want or need you can build up to 7-day, 11-day, 21-day, 40-day, but the longer the fast the longer the interval you should have between them (e.g. only do a 40 day once every few years, but still keep your smaller 1-3 days fasts as a regular thing). I've never done more than 5 days, fwiw, but plan to.
Really, just find the thing you can do sustainably forever, whether fasting or carnivore or keto variations. Even mediterranean and paleo are fine as long as you stay away from processed foods, added sugars, etc.
Sleep and exercise are equally important. Build up to the ability to do sprints once or twice a week, do resistance training, do calisthenics, walk a lot. Too much distance running actually seems to do more harm than good to joints and organs, we are not evolved for it, but whatever works for you do it.
how can you not stay on carnivore? its so easy. i spent most my adult life thinking meat was bad for me, so now, its like living the fucking dream everyday. i buy 900 bucks worth of wild meats, pasture raised pork fat, line caught fish, and liver, heart, frigging everything. it does take a lot of cooking. and when you go out to eat, people sometimes make comments why you dont eat your veggies, but i find this is the easiest diet in the world...for me. sorry you have the hard time.
i used to fast, was a huge proponent of it.... now i dont need to. i do by acciencet all the time anyway.... if i have a really big cut of meat the day before, i might forget to eat for 18 hours. Like cardio, but you can still get without distance running, but nothing wrong with a 5k fun run or an hour jog in a pretty area.
Sleep and exercise are equally as important, the pillars! evolution is a hoax, like religions, but i might too far ahead of you on this for now.
Sugar addict. I have a family, so removing all carbs from the house is not remotely realistic. When you are stressed, seeing carbs in front of you, it gets hard to resist. And once you touch a carb, you crave more instantly.
This is the reality for most people who want to try. Far easier to try to stay low carb and fast regularly. I'm glad it is easier for you though.
Nothing wrong with distance running, if that works for you. Plenty of data, though, that it does wear on your body in multiple ways. A mix of walking and sprinting is closer to what we are designed for historically.
As to evolution, you can watch evolution and adaptation happen in lower species with shorter lifespans. Kinda hard to deny but I'm not going to argue about it.
my house still has crap foods, but i was never really big about sugar. i liked meat and veggies and real foods as a child. i feel for you. sugar addiction is rough.
my wife and children have tried my carnivore a few times, they actually agree that it makes them better when they feel sick, but not as . it has been my downfall numerous times. having one piece of fruit, open up a chips and beer craving. but, deciding not to take it, it makes me stronger. I still take a french fry from time to time, or a pizza slice., no one is perfect. but bouncing back from a mistake is critical skill i have developed. it gives me the staying power to stick to it in the long run.
I follow some world record ultra runners, even in their 60's. they defy "science." and the body can handle extremely long runs, one day after another. Molly Sheriton has a great story, she is running 7 marathons s on 7 continents in 7 days. She didnt even start running until she was 50 years old. I know the results of gorilla cardio, fasting, etc and how they tie to supposed evolution of homesapriens. its just half garbage mixed with some truths, best i can tell.
evolution is based on the theory that this earth is a planet in a universe (easy to disprove that theory) and had billions of years to evolve,, but when its so easy to disprove that the earth has curvature, then ALL that "foundational knowledge" of the earth and evolution is thrown out the window. but you dont get answers, just better questions.
Genotyping and minor adaptations within a species are not the same as evolution. i have a degree in biology, its mostly bullshit institutionalized garbage and i can argue all day about how stupid our scientific communities are.