The death of Eratosthenes.
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It suggests <1,000.
5,000 miles away to 4,500 miles away from sunrise to noon is 500 miles of travel, then to be 5,000 miles away again at sunset is another 500 miles of travel. The scenario here is that the sun is closest to us at noon, where it is 4,500 miles away from us.
What exactly is 12,000 though? The travel from sunrise to sunset? Because that's still only just over the width of the Eurasian continent, and the fact that there is only an 8 hour difference in time zone between the two coastlines makes that number also a lowball estimation.
All said though, that's a big jump for your original figures. Are you just guessing these numbers or do they come from some actual dataset?
Well, yes. Accuracy takes work. That's the reason why I have doubts on this proposed scenario. In all conversations I've had, there are major accuracy discrepancies.
I have. Several times in the past. The one I usually find, and the "best" I've seen, is a very blurry video, and it is not convincing. Because of the shot being out of focus it could also be construed as a setting sun, not a fading sun. I asked you for a link because I was hoping you might have a good/better one.
Sounds like you've done some of this yourself. Can you detail a bit how you did your study? I'd be curious to try it out!
I agree! My stance currently is asking the critical questions: if the earth doesn't curve, then what is the reason we make xyz observations?
No, 10k. 5k away as rise. 4.5k over your head, and 5k away at set.
You understand? It never really gets much closer. It's always about the same distance. That's why the size doesn't change noticably.
Now, I have seen photos of the size change, but, I don't believe photos, so I won't claim the size changes noticably, I would need filters on high powered camera lenses and software to measure. It's not nessesary unless you just like to know. I can disprove the globe much easier.
Ya 12500 miles is the total travel from rise to set because it's roughly half of the diameter of the equatorial circle. Half the earth is light and half is dark at any given moment. It's just brought estimate for the concepts to be clear. But, obviously you're still not familiar with the model.
There is no dataset that undermine the biggest deception of all time. You're not gonna be able to find a data that proves the globe deception for you. But it's so common sense if you look for the curve that should be there. It's about 8 inches per mile squared drop. So over a short distance of just 10 miles it's 800 inches of drop. That's massive and you would definitely notice it from a plane.
I just see that same blurry video of the sun fade out. Years ago, I was able to fine several more crispy videos but they are all gone now. Bright Green/bluish is the last color. the short wave length is able to travel through more particles than the others. Is the video fake, no, but did they intentionally only leave a blurry video so it casts doubt? Probably, there is a lot at stake and it's a very delicate topic to keep people willingly ignorant.
The only study I did myself with a friend was the suns height. We were in Europe and on East coast USA. Both used a simple stick and string to measure angle to the sun at the same exact time. Then we had two right triangles and estimated the elevation about 3500 if I remember. It's not possible to see the sun at the same time and observe the angles we did if the earth were a globe.
As for why we make xyz observations. Could you explain what you mean? like in a submarine, subs can target eachother from 20 miles, and that implies a huge curve calc. But do the torpedoes adjust their path for the curve? No. How do I know? Because I've seen talks from specialists that didn't even know they were disproving the globe, they just explained that torpedoes shoot straint at the xyz coordinates, and do not angle down to wrap the required half mile of curvature. Is that what u mean?
Also, sonar wouldn't for whales that send messages hundreds of miles, if the earth was a globe. Their sonar wouldn't bend and their messages wouldnt be able to reach eachother because the sonar would be blocked by the curvature
Hey, just touching back here! Hadn't gotten a response so just trying to re-engage
That's 1K miles of lateral travel, my guy. Maybe you need a different way to explain what you mean.
The sun is 4.5K miles above us at noon, so it is 4.5K miles away. You're saying at sunrise, it's 5K miles away. So that means in order for the sun to go from 5K miles away from us at sunrise, to 4.5K miles away from us at noon, then it would need to travel 500 miles. You then say it's 5K miles away at sunset. So in order for the sun to get from 4.5K miles away from us at noon to 5K miles away from us at sunset, it needs to travel an additional 500 miles.
Total, that's 1000 miles of lateral travel from sunrise to sunset, which is half the width of the US. It's not computing.
Yeah so that's gonna be an issue. I've watched sunsets from sea level and sunrises from mountaintops, and vice versa. In all instances, when the day is clear at least, the sun never fades away/into vision. It always appeared to rise and set into the horizon.
On a flat earth, it doesn't quite compute how or why this occurs. That's the basis of my question.
Are we assuming an equinox? So it's travelling 12.5K miles from rise to set and then an additional 12.5K miles from set to rise? 15K miles total?
Is this an estimate or does this come from any calculation?
What angles did you get? Did you write anything down?
Specifically, why we observe the sun appearing to set below the horizon when it is above us at all times.
From my observation point, if I were in an open field, my sightline to the sun is virtually never obstructed at any point in the day. However, roughly half the time, I experience night. It goes against observations of light and vantage I see on earth, so something very unique is happening. I've asked several people why this is, and people, such as yourself, don't really seem to have nor know where to find any clear answer as to what causes this illusion.