Fun fact: These are all retarded arguments that have been dealt with countless times even on this board.
If you knew anything about Church history you'd know how the Church fathers calculated the date of birth of Christ through knowledge of the jewish holidays referenced in scripture (St John Chrysostom also tells us Christians already celebrated the birth of Christ at that time during the 3rd c). It doesn't follow that because Christ happened to be born at that time somehow that proves the pagan origin of the celebration.
Did the Church "baptize" pagan celebrations winning over pagans who found it easier to convert while retaining some semblance to their traditions? Yes. But it's still the pagan celebration becoming the Christian one and not the other way around which you assume just because some of the pagan ones (like Saturnalia) are more ancient - that doesn't follow.
Many pagans celebrated the winter solstice because they worshiped the sun. The argument is usually about the Roman celebration of Sol Invictus, which was instantiated by Aurelian in the 3rd c to counter the rising tide of Christians celebrating Christmas. Saturnalia took place between 17-23 December so it doesn't even overlap with Christmas. There are literally no similarities with Christmas, idk how anyone with a brain could use that argument.
Fun fact: These are all retarded arguments that have been dealt with countless times even on this board.
If you knew anything about Church history you'd know how the Church fathers calculated the date of birth of Christ through knowledge of the jewish holidays referenced in scripture (St John Chrysostom also tells us Christians already celebrated the birth of Christ at that time during the 3rd c). It doesn't follow that because Christ happened to be born at that time somehow that proves the pagan origin of the celebration.
Did the Church "baptize" pagan celebrations winning over pagans who found it easier to convert while retaining some semblance to their traditions? Yes. But it's still the pagan celebration becoming the Christian one and not the other way around which you assume just because some of the pagan ones (like Saturnalia) are more ancient - that doesn't follow.
Many pagans celebrated the winter solstice because they worshiped the sun. The argument is usually about the Roman celebration of Sol Invictus, which was instantiated by Aurelian in the 3rd c to counter the rising tide of Christians celebrating Christmas. Saturnalia took place between 17-23 December so it doesn't even overlap with Christmas. There are literally no similarities with Christmas, idk how anyone with a brain could use that argument.
Don't bother...OP is a mentally ill Troll...