The Great Controversy by Ellen G. White.. 500 pages. What is the "great controversy", they're talking about?
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The “great controversy” in Ellen G. White’s book, The Great Controversy, refers to the ongoing battle between Jesus Christ and Satan. This conflict is depicted as a cosmic struggle between good and evil, spanning from the rebellion of Satan in heaven to the ultimate eradication of sin and the restoration of God’s kingdom on Earth12.
The book covers significant historical events, such as the destruction of Jerusalem, the Reformation, and the rise of the Advent movement, and it culminates with a detailed description of the end times. It also outlines key Seventh-day Adventist doctrines, including the heavenly sanctuary, the investigative judgment, and the state of the dead12.
If you have any specific questions about the book or its themes, feel free to ask!
You
A lot of these christian religions, they seem to focus mainly on the Jesus guy.. but his boss, Yahweh.. what does this 7th day aventist, that printed this "great controversy" book, have to say about Yahweh?
Copilot
Seventh-day Adventists believe in Yahweh as the eternal, all-powerful, and loving God who created the universe and continues to be actively involved in the world. They emphasize the importance of following God’s commandments, including observing the Sabbath on Saturday1.
Adventists view Yahweh as the same God who revealed Himself through Jesus Christ, and they believe that understanding and following His will is essential for salvation1. They use the name Yahweh in hymns and prayers, considering it a more authentic title for God2.
If you have more questions about their beliefs or practices, feel free to ask!
You
but they think Yahweh is what they keep just saying "god", right? That's who they mean?
Copilot
Yes, that’s correct! When Seventh-day Adventists refer to “God,” they are indeed talking about Yahweh. They believe Yahweh is the same God who is revealed in the Bible, both in the Old and New Testaments, and who is also manifested through Jesus Christ. So, when they use the term “God,” they are referring to Yahweh.
If you have any more questions about their beliefs or anything else, feel free to ask!
You
Betcha they don't even say Yahweh, even once in this 500 page book, eh?
Copilot
You’re right! In The Great Controversy, Ellen G. White primarily uses terms like “God,” “Lord,” and “Jehovah” rather than "Yahweh"12. The focus is on the broader themes of God’s law, the conflict between good and evil, and the ultimate triumph of God’s kingdom.
If you have any other questions or need more information, feel free to ask!
You
Tried this text analyzer bookmark I had. It handled the full input of text but in the results it just stopped instead of continuing. Looked around.. noticed chatgpt has a new feature where you can attach a file, so I attached the text paste of the book. Then I tried to get it to tell me how many times words were being used. It was doing a code window and was ok for a while but it can't keep going. Then I asked how many times it uses the word, Yahweh, in the code it said 4 times. But when I asked when it said it and what were the lines, it was bogus and didn't even say Yahweh.
So then I'm there.. nevermind that thing just use my notepad++ that has word and character counts info, compared to just notepad. Did a word search for yahweh, then "count" and it's 0 like you said. Let me test you.. how many times does this book say Jehovah.
Copilot
In The Great Controversy by Ellen G. White, the term “Jehovah” is used several times. While I don’t have the exact count, the book does reference “Jehovah” in various contexts, particularly when discussing God’s law and His authority12.
If you have any other questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask!
You
Chatgpt said Jehovah is mentioned only 20 times. Using notepad++, then count for word.. it says 29 times. So this chatgpt stinks, closing window. Let me check how many times it said they used the word Jesus. 981, notepad++ says 228. So this chatgpt there.. it stinks so bad, with inaccurate information.
Copilot
It sounds like you’ve had quite the experience with different tools! It’s great that you were able to use Notepad++ to get accurate counts. Based on your findings, “Jehovah” is mentioned 29 times and “Jesus” 228 times in The Great Controversy.
If you have any other questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask!
You
I guess only saying Jesus 228 times isn't too bad, considering it's talking a lot about "Bible" verses, whichever bible they use. Like which version is she even using for this book?
Copilot
Ellen G. White primarily used the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible in her writings, including The Great Controversy1. However, she occasionally referenced other English translations that were available during her time12.
If you have any other questions or need more information, feel free to ask!
You
In this pdf version of the book, whenever there's a verse, it's a blue link and the site goes to egwwritings.org. So at least it's kind of like official.
So.. you're saying she used this KJV version, eh.. what denominations also use that
Copilot
Yes, Ellen G. White primarily used the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible in her writings. Several Christian denominations also use the KJV, including:
Baptists
Pentecostals
Episcopalians
Presbyterians
Latter-day Saints (Mormons)123
These denominations appreciate the KJV for its literary quality and historical significance. If you have any more questions or need further information, feel free to ask!
You
And these are all sub branches of what denomination?
Copilot
The denominations you mentioned—Baptists, Pentecostals, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, and Latter-day Saints—are all part of the broader Protestant branch of Christianity12. Protestantism itself emerged from the Reformation in the 16th century, which was a movement against certain practices and doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church23.
If you have any more questions or need further information, feel free to ask!
You
So it's all this "protestant" stuff, eh.
This King James version.. they did an "update" in 1979?
Copilot
Yes, the King James Version (KJV) was updated in 1979 with the release of the New King James Version (NKJV)12. The NKJV aimed to preserve the original KJV’s literary beauty while updating its language for modern readers. The New Testament was published in 1979, the Book of Psalms in 1980, and the entire Bible in 198212.
If you have any more questions or need further information, feel free to ask!
You
So any religious organization that uses this NKJV, must be "protestant", like these other ones you mentioned
Copilot
While the New King James Version (NKJV) is predominantly used by Protestant denominations, it’s not exclusively limited to them. Many Protestant groups, such as Baptists, Pentecostals, and Presbyterians, do use the NKJV12. However, some non-Protestant groups might also use it for its readability and modern language.
If you have any more questions or need further information, feel free to ask!
You
Yeah but you just said earlier that it's based off this whole "protestant" branch, all these sub branch religions that used the King James version.. and then these later ones that claim they don't have any denomination, yet use the new King James type. That's definitely this "protestant" type of religion.. compared to like roman catholic or something.
Copilot
You’re right! The King James Version (KJV) and its update, the New King James Version (NKJV), are indeed rooted in the Protestant tradition. Many denominations that use these versions are part of the broader Protestant branch of Christianity.
While some groups might claim to be non-denominational, their use of the NKJV often aligns them more closely with Protestant beliefs and practices. This is in contrast to Roman Catholicism, which typically uses versions like the Douay-Rheims Bible or the New American Bible.
If you have any more questions or need further clarification, feel free to ask!
You
so how come in this "great controversy" book.. she doesn't use the word Yahweh, even once. Do these protestants have a beef with Yahweh?
Copilot
The absence of the word “Yahweh” in The Great Controversy and many other Protestant writings is largely due to historical and linguistic reasons rather than any specific “beef” with the name. Here are a few key points:
Sacredness of the Name: Historically, the name “Yahweh” was considered so sacred by the Jewish people that they avoided pronouncing it aloud. Instead, they used terms like “Adonai” (Lord) or “Elohim” (God) when reading scriptures12.
Translation Practices: The King James Version (KJV) of the Bible, which Ellen G. White primarily used, often substitutes “Yahweh” with “LORD” or “Jehovah.” This practice carried over into many Protestant traditions12.
Cultural and Theological Norms: Over time, the use of “Lord” or “God” became more common in Christian writings and hymns, including those by Ellen G. White. This was partly to maintain continuity with traditional Christian language and partly due to the influence of the KJV12.
So, it’s more about tradition and reverence than any opposition to the name “Yahweh.”
If you have any more questions or need further clarification, feel free to ask!
You
They did use the word Jehovah, 29 times. Who's Jehovah.. that's not Yahweh, is it?
Copilot
“Jehovah” and “Yahweh” are actually different representations of the same name for God. Here’s a bit more detail:
Yahweh: This is considered the more accurate transliteration of the Hebrew name for God, represented by the Tetragrammaton YHWH. It reflects the original pronunciation more closely12.
Jehovah: This form emerged from combining the consonants YHWH with the vowels of “Adonai” (another name for God meaning “Lord”). This practice was adopted by medieval Christian scholars12. While “Jehovah” is less accurate linguistically, it became widely used in English translations of the Bible12.
So, both “Jehovah” and “Yahweh” refer to the same deity, the God of the Bible, but “Yahweh” is closer to the original Hebrew pronunciation.
If you have any more questions or need further clarification, feel free to ask!
You
What about these Jehovah witness guys.. what's their deal.. they seem more into the Jehovah and they knock at your door, trying to recruit people to join and they make money that way, eh.
Copilot
Jehovah’s Witnesses are known for their distinctive beliefs and practices, which include door-to-door evangelism. Here are some key points about them:
Beliefs: They believe in Jehovah as the one true God and reject the Trinity doctrine. They view Jesus Christ as God’s agent for salvation but not as Almighty God12.
Evangelism: They are well-known for their door-to-door ministry, which they see as a way to spread their faith and fulfill Jesus’ command to preach the gospel12.
Scripture: They use their own translation of the Bible, the New World Translation, and emphasize the importance of using God’s name, Jehovah12.
Practices: They do not celebrate holidays or birthdays, which they believe have pagan origins. They also refuse blood transfusions based on their interpretation of biblical texts12.
Organization: Jehovah’s Witnesses are organized under the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. They do not make money from their evangelism efforts; instead, their activities are funded by voluntary donations from members12.
Their door-to-door approach is part of their commitment to sharing their beliefs with others. If you have more questions or need further details, feel free to ask!
You
Wait, what.. they reject the trinity doctrine? What's that all about?
Copilot
Jehovah’s Witnesses reject the Trinity doctrine, which is the belief in one God in three persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. Here are some key reasons for their stance:
Biblical Interpretation: Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the Bible does not support the concept of the Trinity. They interpret scriptures to mean that Jesus is a created being, not equal to God, and that the Holy Spirit is God’s active force, not a person12.
Historical Development: They argue that the Trinity doctrine was not part of early Christian teachings and was only formalized in the 4th century at the Council of Nicaea23.
Rationality: Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that the idea of one God in three persons is illogical and cannot be explained by human reason3.
Focus on Monotheism: They emphasize strict monotheism, believing that worship should be directed to Jehovah alone23.
These beliefs set them apart from mainstream Christian denominations that accept the Trinity.
If you have more questions or need further details, feel free to ask!
You
These Johavah witnesses there.. when did this start and why. Must be some sub branch of some religion.. betcha it's this protestant stuff like all these others.
Copilot
Jehovah’s Witnesses originated in the late 19th century as a branch of the Bible Student movement, which was led by Charles Taze Russell12. This movement developed within the larger Adventist movement in the United States2. Here are some key points about their origins:
Charles Taze Russell: He founded the International Bible Students Association in 1872 and later the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society in 188112.
Adventist Influence: The movement was influenced by Adventist teachings, particularly those of William Miller, who predicted the Second Coming of Christ2.
Name Change: In 1931, under the leadership of Joseph Franklin Rutherford, the group adopted the name “Jehovah’s Witnesses” to emphasize their belief in Jehovah as the true God12.
While Jehovah’s Witnesses have roots in the Adventist movement, they are distinct in their beliefs and practices, particularly their rejection of the Trinity and their unique eschatology.
If you have more questions or need further details, feel free to ask!
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You
The Great Controversy by Ellen G. White.. 500 pages. What is the "great controversy", they're talking about?
Copilot
The “great controversy” in Ellen G. White’s book, The Great Controversy, refers to the ongoing battle between Jesus Christ and Satan. This conflict is depicted as a cosmic struggle between good and evil, spanning from the rebellion of Satan in heaven to the ultimate eradication of sin and the restoration of God’s kingdom on Earth12.
The book covers significant historical events, such as the destruction of Jerusalem, the Reformation, and the rise of the Advent movement, and it culminates with a detailed description of the end times. It also outlines key Seventh-day Adventist doctrines, including the heavenly sanctuary, the investigative judgment, and the state of the dead12.
If you have any specific questions about the book or its themes, feel free to ask!
You
A lot of these christian religions, they seem to focus mainly on the Jesus guy.. but his boss, Yahweh.. what does this 7th day aventist, that printed this "great controversy" book, have to say about Yahweh?
Copilot
Seventh-day Adventists believe in Yahweh as the eternal, all-powerful, and loving God who created the universe and continues to be actively involved in the world. They emphasize the importance of following God’s commandments, including observing the Sabbath on Saturday1.
Adventists view Yahweh as the same God who revealed Himself through Jesus Christ, and they believe that understanding and following His will is essential for salvation1. They use the name Yahweh in hymns and prayers, considering it a more authentic title for God2.
If you have more questions about their beliefs or practices, feel free to ask!
You
but they think Yahweh is what they keep just saying "god", right? That's who they mean?
Copilot
Yes, that’s correct! When Seventh-day Adventists refer to “God,” they are indeed talking about Yahweh. They believe Yahweh is the same God who is revealed in the Bible, both in the Old and New Testaments, and who is also manifested through Jesus Christ. So, when they use the term “God,” they are referring to Yahweh.
If you have any more questions about their beliefs or anything else, feel free to ask!
You
Betcha they don't even say Yahweh, even once in this 500 page book, eh?
Copilot
You’re right! In The Great Controversy, Ellen G. White primarily uses terms like “God,” “Lord,” and “Jehovah” rather than "Yahweh"12. The focus is on the broader themes of God’s law, the conflict between good and evil, and the ultimate triumph of God’s kingdom.
If you have any other questions or need more information, feel free to ask!
You
Tried this text analyzer bookmark I had. It handled the full input of text but in the results it just stopped instead of continuing. Looked around.. noticed chatgpt has a new feature where you can attach a file, so I attached the text paste of the book. Then I tried to get it to tell me how many times words were being used. It was doing a code window and was ok for a while but it can't keep going. Then I asked how many times it uses the word, Yahweh, in the code it said 4 times. But when I asked when it said it and what were the lines, it was bogus and didn't even say Yahweh.
So then I'm there.. nevermind that thing just use my notepad++ that has word and character counts info, compared to just notepad. Did a word search for yahweh, then "count" and it's 0 like you said. Let me test you.. how many times does this book say Jehovah.
Copilot
In The Great Controversy by Ellen G. White, the term “Jehovah” is used several times. While I don’t have the exact count, the book does reference “Jehovah” in various contexts, particularly when discussing God’s law and His authority12.
If you have any other questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask!
You
Chatgpt said Jehovah is mentioned only 20 times. Using notepad++, then count for word.. it says 29 times. So this chatgpt stinks, closing window. Let me check how many times it said they used the word Jesus. 981, notepad++ says 228. So this chatgpt there.. it stinks so bad, with inaccurate information.
Copilot
It sounds like you’ve had quite the experience with different tools! It’s great that you were able to use Notepad++ to get accurate counts. Based on your findings, “Jehovah” is mentioned 29 times and “Jesus” 228 times in The Great Controversy.
If you have any other questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask!
You
I guess only saying Jesus 228 times isn't too bad, considering it's talking a lot about "Bible" verses, whichever bible they use. Like which version is she even using for this book?
Copilot
Ellen G. White primarily used the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible in her writings, including The Great Controversy1. However, she occasionally referenced other English translations that were available during her time12.
If you have any other questions or need more information, feel free to ask!
You
In this pdf version of the book, whenever there's a verse, it's a blue link and the site goes to egwwritings.org. So at least it's kind of like official.
So.. you're saying she used this KJV version, eh.. what denominations also use that
Copilot
Yes, Ellen G. White primarily used the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible in her writings. Several Christian denominations also use the KJV, including:
Baptists
Pentecostals
Episcopalians
Presbyterians
Latter-day Saints (Mormons)123
These denominations appreciate the KJV for its literary quality and historical significance. If you have any more questions or need further information, feel free to ask!
You
And these are all sub branches of what denomination?
Copilot
The denominations you mentioned—Baptists, Pentecostals, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, and Latter-day Saints—are all part of the broader Protestant branch of Christianity12. Protestantism itself emerged from the Reformation in the 16th century, which was a movement against certain practices and doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church23.
If you have any more questions or need further information, feel free to ask!
You
So it's all this "protestant" stuff, eh.
This King James version.. they did an "update" in 1979?
Copilot
Yes, the King James Version (KJV) was updated in 1979 with the release of the New King James Version (NKJV)12. The NKJV aimed to preserve the original KJV’s literary beauty while updating its language for modern readers. The New Testament was published in 1979, the Book of Psalms in 1980, and the entire Bible in 198212.
If you have any more questions or need further information, feel free to ask!
You
So any religious organization that uses this NKJV, must be "protestant", like these other ones you mentioned
Copilot
While the New King James Version (NKJV) is predominantly used by Protestant denominations, it’s not exclusively limited to them. Many Protestant groups, such as Baptists, Pentecostals, and Presbyterians, do use the NKJV12. However, some non-Protestant groups might also use it for its readability and modern language.
If you have any more questions or need further information, feel free to ask!
You
Yeah but you just said earlier that it's based off this whole "protestant" branch, all these sub branch religions that used the King James version.. and then these later ones that claim they don't have any denomination, yet use the new King James type. That's definitely this "protestant" type of religion.. compared to like roman catholic or something.
Copilot
You’re right! The King James Version (KJV) and its update, the New King James Version (NKJV), are indeed rooted in the Protestant tradition. Many denominations that use these versions are part of the broader Protestant branch of Christianity.
While some groups might claim to be non-denominational, their use of the NKJV often aligns them more closely with Protestant beliefs and practices. This is in contrast to Roman Catholicism, which typically uses versions like the Douay-Rheims Bible or the New American Bible.
If you have any more questions or need further clarification, feel free to ask!
You
so how come in this "great controversy" book.. she doesn't use the word Yahweh, even once. Do these protestants have a beef with Yahweh?
Copilot
The absence of the word “Yahweh” in The Great Controversy and many other Protestant writings is largely due to historical and linguistic reasons rather than any specific “beef” with the name. Here are a few key points:
Sacredness of the Name: Historically, the name “Yahweh” was considered so sacred by the Jewish people that they avoided pronouncing it aloud. Instead, they used terms like “Adonai” (Lord) or “Elohim” (God) when reading scriptures12.
Translation Practices: The King James Version (KJV) of the Bible, which Ellen G. White primarily used, often substitutes “Yahweh” with “LORD” or “Jehovah.” This practice carried over into many Protestant traditions12.
Cultural and Theological Norms: Over time, the use of “Lord” or “God” became more common in Christian writings and hymns, including those by Ellen G. White. This was partly to maintain continuity with traditional Christian language and partly due to the influence of the KJV12.
So, it’s more about tradition and reverence than any opposition to the name “Yahweh.”
If you have any more questions or need further clarification, feel free to ask!
You
They did use the word Jehovah, 29 times. Who's Jehovah.. that's not Yahweh, is it?
Copilot
“Jehovah” and “Yahweh” are actually different representations of the same name for God. Here’s a bit more detail:
Yahweh: This is considered the more accurate transliteration of the Hebrew name for God, represented by the Tetragrammaton YHWH. It reflects the original pronunciation more closely12.
Jehovah: This form emerged from combining the consonants YHWH with the vowels of “Adonai” (another name for God meaning “Lord”). This practice was adopted by medieval Christian scholars12. While “Jehovah” is less accurate linguistically, it became widely used in English translations of the Bible12.
So, both “Jehovah” and “Yahweh” refer to the same deity, the God of the Bible, but “Yahweh” is closer to the original Hebrew pronunciation.
If you have any more questions or need further clarification, feel free to ask!
You
What about these Jehovah witness guys.. what's their deal.. they seem more into the Jehovah and they knock at your door, trying to recruit people to join and they make money that way, eh.
Copilot
Jehovah’s Witnesses are known for their distinctive beliefs and practices, which include door-to-door evangelism. Here are some key points about them:
Beliefs: They believe in Jehovah as the one true God and reject the Trinity doctrine. They view Jesus Christ as God’s agent for salvation but not as Almighty God12.
Evangelism: They are well-known for their door-to-door ministry, which they see as a way to spread their faith and fulfill Jesus’ command to preach the gospel12.
Scripture: They use their own translation of the Bible, the New World Translation, and emphasize the importance of using God’s name, Jehovah12.
Practices: They do not celebrate holidays or birthdays, which they believe have pagan origins. They also refuse blood transfusions based on their interpretation of biblical texts12.
Organization: Jehovah’s Witnesses are organized under the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. They do not make money from their evangelism efforts; instead, their activities are funded by voluntary donations from members12.
Their door-to-door approach is part of their commitment to sharing their beliefs with others. If you have more questions or need further details, feel free to ask!
You
Wait, what.. they reject the trinity doctrine? What's that all about?
Copilot
Jehovah’s Witnesses reject the Trinity doctrine, which is the belief in one God in three persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. Here are some key reasons for their stance:
Biblical Interpretation: Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the Bible does not support the concept of the Trinity. They interpret scriptures to mean that Jesus is a created being, not equal to God, and that the Holy Spirit is God’s active force, not a person12.
Historical Development: They argue that the Trinity doctrine was not part of early Christian teachings and was only formalized in the 4th century at the Council of Nicaea23.
Rationality: Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that the idea of one God in three persons is illogical and cannot be explained by human reason3.
Focus on Monotheism: They emphasize strict monotheism, believing that worship should be directed to Jehovah alone23. These beliefs set them apart from mainstream Christian denominations that accept the Trinity.
If you have more questions or need further details, feel free to ask!
You
These Johavah witnesses there.. when did this start and why. Must be some sub branch of some religion.. betcha it's this protestant stuff like all these others.
Copilot
Jehovah’s Witnesses originated in the late 19th century as a branch of the Bible Student movement, which was led by Charles Taze Russell12. This movement developed within the larger Adventist movement in the United States2. Here are some key points about their origins:
Charles Taze Russell: He founded the International Bible Students Association in 1872 and later the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society in 188112.
Adventist Influence: The movement was influenced by Adventist teachings, particularly those of William Miller, who predicted the Second Coming of Christ2.
Name Change: In 1931, under the leadership of Joseph Franklin Rutherford, the group adopted the name “Jehovah’s Witnesses” to emphasize their belief in Jehovah as the true God12.
While Jehovah’s Witnesses have roots in the Adventist movement, they are distinct in their beliefs and practices, particularly their rejection of the Trinity and their unique eschatology.
If you have more questions or need further details, feel free to ask!