Youre seriously asking about the 1/1000 thing after I explained why it would not matter. And I explained that there are many people who have done laser tests, so you could have admitted that you didn't even try.
What is the point? You think your having fun with me but youre just another programmed person, as the video I sent about you, you refuse to even watch, further pushing you into deeper ignorance.
Youre seriously asking about the 1/1000 thing after I explained why it would not matter.
You most certainly did not explain it...
And it most certainly does matter... If you can't guarantee the levelness of the laser any measurements you take on the other side are invalid.
And I swear to god... if you respond with "nuhh, uhh I did explain it" and you don't link to your previous comment, you're getting blocked, cause your entertainment value is out the door when the annoyance factor reaches a certain level.
What is the point?
My point is were onto like the 3rd or 4th proof that the earth is a sphere.
If you get that laser perfectly level, I will accept your experiment and it will prove me right.
there are many people who have done laser tests
Show me what instrument they used to gauge the levelness of the line then.
Find any open body of water, so you can use it for level.
You make a trip pod that holds a laser, put the tripod in the water and adjust the height of the laser to 30 cm above the water
At same time, a similar set up with a target 🎯 that is across the lake.
Point laser at target, measure the distance of the laser point on the target with the level of the lake.
I'm sure you can understand from here, right? Lasers are straight, so of earth was a globe, the laser should be higher than 30cm, depending on how far the laser is from the target.
What you will observe is that the laser is at about the same height, the tiny variation is within the tolerance of an imperfect setup and it's well within margin of error to conclude that the earth doesn't curve.
That's it. No amount of mental gymnastics will change it. Earth doesn't curve, so the rest of the talk about space, stars, planets has to be pseudoscience. You don't even need to discuss them because these basic laser test so definitively defeats those theories
Find any open body of water, so you can use it for level.
Water is not a level.... Much less an open body of water with wind and waves.
Give me fucking break. That's even more retarded than thinking the earth is flat.
What you will observe is that the laser is at about the same height, the tiny variation is within the tolerance of an imperfect setup and it's well within margin of error to conclude that the earth doesn't curve.
Stop. Water is level. On a lake ona calm mornin, total glass. And you are the one who would have to prove that it's not leve, making such a claim is stupid.
Obviously I know wind and waves make water move, duh. How fucking smart do you think you are?
You are really over complicating things. I call it mental gymnastics. You're subconscious is doing it's best to justify that you don't need to question your truth, what you think is the truth. It's hard for the human mind to adapt to being fooled.
You had an idea for an experiment and I don't understand it because you kind rambled through it and didn't explain it well. Maybe if you understood how the tests are commonly set up.
All I can do is remind you that many people have formulated laser tests and all of them opted simplicity. If you tried, you'd see It's difficult to find the laser test videos, blocked by Google, shadow banned, whatever...and if you don't know, it should at least seem suspicious to the unopen eye.
You had an idea for an experiment and I don't understand it because you kind rambled through it and didn't explain it well.
It's literally the exact same as your experiment except it's far enough away that you don't have to care or measure the exact angle of the laser, only whether or not it's visible.
You make the target a camera lens instead of piece of cardboard.
No ultra accurate leveling device is needed... Just repeated moving flashes in a general direction that can be done by hand. And you either see the flashes from across the lake, or you don't.
At a distance of 200 miles on a curved earth the light would not be visible... But on a flat earth you should still be able to see the flashes even if only briefly...
Record even one flash from that distance and you win...
No, at a distant of 200 miles it would not be visible on a flat plane due to Beers law. I asked you to catch up on that concept and then I explained why, photons are deflectwd by particles in the air.
This, if the surface of earth was a hard vacuum, then you would still only be able to see within the optical range of your lense, considering your elevation.
So, I'm sorry but, you're wrong again. It's ok. The supposed curvature of the earth is so steep that it's laughable how obvious the globe deception is, once you apply reasoning and you're not afraid to admit you were tricked
Youre seriously asking about the 1/1000 thing after I explained why it would not matter. And I explained that there are many people who have done laser tests, so you could have admitted that you didn't even try.
What is the point? You think your having fun with me but youre just another programmed person, as the video I sent about you, you refuse to even watch, further pushing you into deeper ignorance.
You most certainly did not explain it...
And it most certainly does matter... If you can't guarantee the levelness of the laser any measurements you take on the other side are invalid.
And I swear to god... if you respond with "nuhh, uhh I did explain it" and you don't link to your previous comment, you're getting blocked, cause your entertainment value is out the door when the annoyance factor reaches a certain level.
My point is were onto like the 3rd or 4th proof that the earth is a sphere.
If you get that laser perfectly level, I will accept your experiment and it will prove me right.
Show me what instrument they used to gauge the levelness of the line then.
Find any open body of water, so you can use it for level.
You make a trip pod that holds a laser, put the tripod in the water and adjust the height of the laser to 30 cm above the water
At same time, a similar set up with a target 🎯 that is across the lake.
Point laser at target, measure the distance of the laser point on the target with the level of the lake.
I'm sure you can understand from here, right? Lasers are straight, so of earth was a globe, the laser should be higher than 30cm, depending on how far the laser is from the target.
What you will observe is that the laser is at about the same height, the tiny variation is within the tolerance of an imperfect setup and it's well within margin of error to conclude that the earth doesn't curve.
That's it. No amount of mental gymnastics will change it. Earth doesn't curve, so the rest of the talk about space, stars, planets has to be pseudoscience. You don't even need to discuss them because these basic laser test so definitively defeats those theories
Water is not a level.... Much less an open body of water with wind and waves.
Give me fucking break. That's even more retarded than thinking the earth is flat.
No, it's not within the margin of error at all.
Let's do the math...
https://www.calculator.net/triangle-calculator.html?vc=&vx=2&vy=&va=90&vz=126720&vb=&angleunits=d&x=Calculate
Angle A = 90 degrees (the target standing vertically)
Side B = 2 inches (a desirable margin of error)
Side C = 126720 inches (2 mile distance)
Result: Angle B = 0.00090429. (the angle of the laser on the 1st bank)
That means for roughly every 1/1,000th of a degree that laser is off, the dot on the other end will be 2 inches higher or 2 inches lower.
That's a range of 4 inches. That's an acceptable tolerance.
But the most accurate construction levels I could find boast an accuracy of 0.029 degrees. https://vinatools.de/70-nivo-spirit-levels/
So assume you use that tool and it tells you that the laser is level...
But really it's 0.029 degrees off from true level....
Now lets plug that info into the triangle calculator, and see what our margin of error becomes at a distance of 2 miles.
https://www.calculator.net/triangle-calculator.html?vc=&vx=&vy=&va=90&vz=126720&vb=0.029&angleunits=d&x=Calculate
Angle A = 90 degrees (target standing vertically)
Side C = 126720 inches (2 miles)
Angle B = 0.029 (the margin for error when using a construction level)
Result: Side B = 64.13876 inches (the margin of error you will get)
That means if the laser is off by just 0.029 degrees it will be 64 inches higher or 64 inches lower than your desired target.
That is a range of 128 inches that you can expect to be off in either direction when using a construction grade leveler.
Stop. Water is level. On a lake ona calm mornin, total glass. And you are the one who would have to prove that it's not leve, making such a claim is stupid.
Obviously I know wind and waves make water move, duh. How fucking smart do you think you are?
You are really over complicating things. I call it mental gymnastics. You're subconscious is doing it's best to justify that you don't need to question your truth, what you think is the truth. It's hard for the human mind to adapt to being fooled.
And while you are at it... Go ahead and tell me why my long distance version of the exact same experiment DOESN'T work.
Even though you don't need to hold the laser perfectly level in my version and just need to verify the light is visible at any point.
That ought to be entertaining.
You had an idea for an experiment and I don't understand it because you kind rambled through it and didn't explain it well. Maybe if you understood how the tests are commonly set up.
All I can do is remind you that many people have formulated laser tests and all of them opted simplicity. If you tried, you'd see It's difficult to find the laser test videos, blocked by Google, shadow banned, whatever...and if you don't know, it should at least seem suspicious to the unopen eye.
It's literally the exact same as your experiment except it's far enough away that you don't have to care or measure the exact angle of the laser, only whether or not it's visible.
You make the target a camera lens instead of piece of cardboard.
No ultra accurate leveling device is needed... Just repeated moving flashes in a general direction that can be done by hand. And you either see the flashes from across the lake, or you don't.
At a distance of 200 miles on a curved earth the light would not be visible... But on a flat earth you should still be able to see the flashes even if only briefly...
Record even one flash from that distance and you win...
No, at a distant of 200 miles it would not be visible on a flat plane due to Beers law. I asked you to catch up on that concept and then I explained why, photons are deflectwd by particles in the air.
This, if the surface of earth was a hard vacuum, then you would still only be able to see within the optical range of your lense, considering your elevation.
So, I'm sorry but, you're wrong again. It's ok. The supposed curvature of the earth is so steep that it's laughable how obvious the globe deception is, once you apply reasoning and you're not afraid to admit you were tricked