Yeah right. Only if you mistook the romans for the jews.
Do you realize both jews and arabs are semites and they share a common ancestor in the face of Abraham? Uh oh, turns out arabs have a Biblical claim on the land after all.
You idiot, arabs WERE NOT muslim before Islam was created in 7th century. Cut the Quran bs and stop strawmaning everything I say. Regardless of whether you believe arabs have their origin from Abraham's son Ishmael, both arabs and jews belong to the semitic group of peoples and both use semitic languages common to the region.
It would only apply to direct family members of Mohammed, who are extinct.
Possibly, I don't claim they're the same. You're the one making claims about jewish ancestry. I'd like to see your proof that modern khazarian jews are descendent from the jews 2000 years ago.
Fuck you and your synagogue of Satan apologetics. Palestinian women and children are getting slaughtered by those animals, because jews consider them goyim and not human beings. I am Christian and consider muslims deluded and anti-christian, but I would never support a genocide against them.
We all know why they're instigating this war - so they can take over the whole land, demolish the mosque and rebuild their satanic temple. They're breeding red heifers for the purpose and have the plans for the altar ready. You are supporting a genocide, get the fuck out of here, I'm done with you.
I'm an atheist. I don't believe your god even exists and I'm 50/50 on whether or Jesus even lived as a man.
Are you that skeptical of other historical figures of that time or is it something particular that irks you about Christ and the possibility He was indeed who He was as described in the Bible? By attestation I mean other non-Christian documents too. Here's a jewpedia article about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sources_for_the_historicity_of_Jesus
Not a single person that we know of wrote about Jesus while Jesus was still alive. Which is very odd for someone that traveled around performing public miracles.
Not a single person wrote about Plato while he was alive too. The first attestation we get for him come 500 years after he died. People back then didn't write everything down immediately and even if they did, much of what they did write down was lost through the ages.
Because according to my research, that's the earliest mention you're gonna find.
So it doesn't count if it was sourced a few decades after the events? What is your claim? That Tacitus and other non-Christian Roman historians made the whole thing up? If that's your standard just concede you can't know anything about ancient and early medieval history at all.
You know to be honest I've not really bothered to spend any time looking into the evidence that plato existed. Then again, nobody ever told me that I need to close my eyes and telepathically send love-letters to Plato.
Now now, you're strawmaning again. We're tackling your denial of Jesus as a historical figure, not as God or as the messiah.
Do you have anything mentioning Jesus that predates 94 AD or not? Because 60 fuckin years is a long time.
It's not. It's within the lifespan of one generation. It's like saying you can't have knowledge of things that happened in the 60's by talking to your parents or grandparents about it. To put it in perspective, people still have stories about WWII.
If all these stories suddenly started emerging today about some magical dude in 1964 who was totally a real person, I'm sure we'd all be quite skeptical about it.
Lol, that's the worst bad faith argument I've heard. That would be the case IF we pretended the world in 1964 was the same world as 33AD and if that hypothetical applied for everything else we know about the 60's (stories about other popular people of the 60's popping out of nowhere).
We don't know whether there weren't more documents available to Tacitus and the others that were lost. This is highly likely but regardless they had knowledge and certainty of the events they were writing on.
Yeah right. Only if you mistook the romans for the jews.
Do you realize both jews and arabs are semites and they share a common ancestor in the face of Abraham? Uh oh, turns out arabs have a Biblical claim on the land after all.
You idiot, arabs WERE NOT muslim before Islam was created in 7th century. Cut the Quran bs and stop strawmaning everything I say. Regardless of whether you believe arabs have their origin from Abraham's son Ishmael, both arabs and jews belong to the semitic group of peoples and both use semitic languages common to the region.
Possibly, I don't claim they're the same. You're the one making claims about jewish ancestry. I'd like to see your proof that modern khazarian jews are descendent from the jews 2000 years ago.
I almost believed that jewpedia article.
Fuck you and your synagogue of Satan apologetics. Palestinian women and children are getting slaughtered by those animals, because jews consider them goyim and not human beings. I am Christian and consider muslims deluded and anti-christian, but I would never support a genocide against them.
We all know why they're instigating this war - so they can take over the whole land, demolish the mosque and rebuild their satanic temple. They're breeding red heifers for the purpose and have the plans for the altar ready. You are supporting a genocide, get the fuck out of here, I'm done with you.
Are you that skeptical of other historical figures of that time or is it something particular that irks you about Christ and the possibility He was indeed who He was as described in the Bible? By attestation I mean other non-Christian documents too. Here's a jewpedia article about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sources_for_the_historicity_of_Jesus
Not a single person wrote about Plato while he was alive too. The first attestation we get for him come 500 years after he died. People back then didn't write everything down immediately and even if they did, much of what they did write down was lost through the ages.
So it doesn't count if it was sourced a few decades after the events? What is your claim? That Tacitus and other non-Christian Roman historians made the whole thing up? If that's your standard just concede you can't know anything about ancient and early medieval history at all.
Now now, you're strawmaning again. We're tackling your denial of Jesus as a historical figure, not as God or as the messiah.
It's not. It's within the lifespan of one generation. It's like saying you can't have knowledge of things that happened in the 60's by talking to your parents or grandparents about it. To put it in perspective, people still have stories about WWII.
Lol, that's the worst bad faith argument I've heard. That would be the case IF we pretended the world in 1964 was the same world as 33AD and if that hypothetical applied for everything else we know about the 60's (stories about other popular people of the 60's popping out of nowhere). We don't know whether there weren't more documents available to Tacitus and the others that were lost. This is highly likely but regardless they had knowledge and certainty of the events they were writing on.