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A message from the past (2021) (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 1 year ago by OnlyRetardsGetTheJab 1 year ago by OnlyRetardsGetTheJab +22 / -3
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– deleted 5 points 1 year ago +6 / -1
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– brahbruh 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Weird. Firstly, this is a tremendous post. Secondly, this illustrates just about the same dynamic as the post I coincidentally just wrote, moments ago:

https://conspiracies.win/p/17s5b0Phdw/stumbled-across-this-guy-you-wou/

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– ZyklonShower 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

It’s funny that anyone has faith in the political system.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

Vote!

It costs you nothing but a few hours in the year, and there's the sliver of a chance that it will matter that's worth holding onto.

Don't count on the vote, don't expect the vote to change anything, keep taking whatever actions you would take given voting is useless.

but Vote!

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– Donkeybutt75 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The other side of that is it validates the system, and if it is entirely rigged then participating perpetuates the system because it makes it appear valid.

They could just report large number even if they don't get them, but people will know locally that nobody is participating and eventually would catch on that it is all fake.

That said, I still generally advocate participating as much as you possibly can locally. That is the place that both matters the most and is hardest to corrupt (though they are close to having localities compromised enough as well).

Do whatever you feel like at the state and federal levels.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I would argue that if the system is rigged, then your participation literally does not matter to them. if people don't participate, it's easy to come up with numbers that seem plausible to the normies watching TV. however, if people do participate, they have to go to greater lengths to make things sound reasonable.

everyone I have talked to about the subject agrees that there's no chance in hell that Biden of all people is the most popular president in the history of the United States ever, yet that is what the numbers came out to during the 2020 election. they had to come out that way because Trump got so many votes as well. The absurdity of these numbers has woken up several people to the notion that elections could be fake and gay.

if people stop voting against the establishment, they don't have to concoct any absurd loopholes and stories to convince people that the establishment keeps winning. if people keep voting against the establishments, and the vote is indeed rigged, it takes that much more effort to hide it. that small amount of effort is well worth the couple of hours it takes to vote.

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– Donkeybutt75 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It's a threshold thing. The specific number I don't know, but if say only 10% of people participate and they try to pretend that 50% are participating, then it becomes obvious to everyone that it is fake.

The facade needs to be kept up until they have the control grid fully in place, otherwise you risk waking too many people up and either revolution or total noncompliance.

As you indicate, there is also a threshold in the other direction where they can't rig it enough to cheat enough and still make it appear realistic.

I'm not really advocating either direction at the state and federal levels, I'm just saying the one place you really should participate is locally.

However, something to keep in mind, they added 25 million more votes in 2020 than had ever been cast previously. They've still got another 15 they can pull from for registered voters and can even register as many as they need to on election day in many states now, giving them up to 100 million more (or, as many as they need).

Yes, it gets harder and harder to keep it looking realistic, but the population will believe what they are told to believe if they have to. You would need such massive numbers to really overcome that.

You'd need big numbers in either direction really (either massive numbers stop voting or massive numbers come in and actually vote), so I don't think either way is realistic, so that's why I always just say do what you want at the state and federal levels, but make sure you participate locally.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

the problem with the current situation is that the belief in elections is very much partisan. the left won the last election, so obviously the elections are working and there's nothing wrong with them. the people who would boycott an election currently are exclusively people on the right.

when the right doesn't show up for elections, and elections are dominated by the left, they merely have to say "see? the world is healing and the evil right is disappearing! our elections are solid!"

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– Donkeybutt75 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Yeah, that's why I don't think either way is really a viable option. Need to participate locally though.

And more importantly, the actual viable path is to build community and networks that can survive and exist outside of this system, and grow that. Hoping for someone in the controlled system to come save us is doing it wrong. We have to put in the actual work ourselves.

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