Do you retards even understand who wrote Revelation, who rewrote it and for what purpose? It is not a fucking prophecy for millennia, never was.
It's a mish-mash compilation of more than 300 different sources thrown together, rewritten over a span of over thousand years and supported rulers who used the new testament as a tool of control over the newfound christians throughout this period. It's been rewritten so many times, even scholars have lost count.
Even the fucking number of beast changes from 666 to 616 from manuscript fragment to another.
Also, even the early Christians recognized it's false authorship and misleading content, and refused it as an authentic testamentum.
How many centuries have Christiantards believed that the Revelation is now at hand? This happens every decade for over a millennia already.
Can't you see how retarded that is?
The only conspiracy here is that both Torah and the Bible have been rewritten many times, censored and edited as tools of control for the brainwashed masses who are incapable of critical and independent thought.
There is God you can experience, but it is not in the Pentateuch or Torah or Old testament, and certainly not in the Book of Revelation. If you worship YHWH you worship an insane, jealous, genocidal psychopath humanoid (non-human), who is not a god by any measure.
And neither YHWH nor THE GOD ever wrote or gave humans to write anything as inane as The Book of Revelation.
If you believe in the revelation, you are as retard as any jew who thinks Torah/Talmud are the god's law or a muslim who thinks that Quran is the infallible word of god. A fanatic, brainless controllable believer of nonsense.
I sincerely hope you get your rapture and be over and done with it (finally!), but leave the rest of us out of it, thank you.
Read a fucking book retard. All of my arguments come from actual scholarly researched publications of authors who have studied the original source texts, UNLIKE YOU.
Your proof comes from reading some inane version of English language bible and some youtube videos of some idiotic born again christian "researchers".
Book of Revelation A Biography (Lives of Great Religious Books) , Timothy Beal (PUP, 2018)
Revelations Visions, Prophecy, and Politics in the Book of Revelation; Elaine Pagels (Viking, 2013)
Book of Revelation and its Eastern Commentators Making the New Testament in the Early Christian World, Thomas Schmidt (Cambridge, 2021)
Book of Revelation A Biography (Lives of Great Religious Books) , Timothy Beal (Princeton, 2018)
Manuscripts of the Book of Revelation New Philology, Paratexts, Reception, Garrick V. Allen (Oxford University Press, 2020)
Be warned, lucifer wants you to believe all the BS pagan/gnostic nonsense that the OP wrote!
And who is it that you blind Gnostics believe in, isn't it the demiurge (fake creator) aka Lucifer (Satan) himself?
It seems like you're indirectly worshiping the Jews and Muslims and their false gods, who have always rejected the greatest Prophet and only Messiah that has ever walked the earth, Jesus Christ the one and only begotten son of the most high creator God.
You are literally worshiping the devil if you deny Jesus and the only True creator God from the Bible.
First of all, if you had studied ANY history, you'd know:
Pagans do NOT worship lucifer or satan
Pagans existed long before any semitic tribe, jew or hebrew speaker, before any book of the bible existed. Before even the concept of satan or lucifer was even invented. You do realize that human history is older than 6000 years old? And that the modern version of old testament was written from polytheism (many gods) into monotheism YHWH worship about 2600 years ago? Would you now worship Baal, if they had censored out YHWH instead and written the Pentateuch around Baal? You have no idea how fucking brainwashed you are.
Your ancestors were pagan long before they were forcibly converted to christianity by oppressive rulers through violence and brainwashing (and resulting in slavery, loss of land and taxation to church)
Gnostics had direct access to real god experience, bypassing your control bible, your control church and your control clergy. They were free, you are a slave.
And no, I'm not a luciferian, nor pagan nor gnostic.
But I fucking read history and you don't even know how to read the fucking the original bible source texts, retard.
You have no clue what you're talking about buddy, most pagans in human history worshiped the great evil one (lucifer/satan) and his legion of fallen demons. There was serpent worship in almost all ancient pagan cultures all around the world.
Yes, and they also worshiped the ancient serpent and even sacrificed their own people to it, they threw their own flesh and blood into the fires of baal. You do realize that most if not all of humanity actually worshiped "satan the prince of this world" long before Jesus Christ was even born, right?
The God from the Bible never advocated any human sacrifice (not even by fire), and all of his Prophets despised the baal worshiping Canaanites for their wicked ways.
Your ancestors were pagan long before...
My ancestors were actually Orthodox Christians for almost one millennium, my friend.
Gnostics had direct access to real god experience, bypassing your control bible, your control church and your control clergy. They were free, you are a slave.
Gnostics is the secret doctrine from the order of the Knights Templar, these heretics literally openly worshiped baphomet and got burned at the stake for it.
It now all makes sense why you're unable to answer my original question, that the gnostic fake creator aka demiurge is lucifer/satan, because there is no way you can refute that Gnostics believe in a fake creator that has the identity of the devil.
And no, I'm not a luciferian, nor pagan nor gnostic.
But I fucking read history and you don't even know how to read the fucking the original bible source texts, retard.
Which of us is deluded?
I get it, you are just an anti-Theist who is brainwashed by luciferian "NEW AGE" propaganda. Go read some old books homie.
You are beyond deluded if you really believe in lucifers false religions and doctrines, instead of Yahuah the almighty creators word, who actually is the Truth, the life and the only way!
Do you retards even understand who wrote Revelation, who rewrote it and for what purpose? It is not a fucking prophecy for millennia, never was.
It's a mish-mash compilation of more than 300 different sources thrown together, rewritten over a span of over thousand years and supported rulers who used the new testament as a tool of control over the newfound christians throughout this period. It's been rewritten so many times, even scholars have lost count.
Even the fucking number of beast changes from 666 to 616 from manuscript fragment to another.
Also, even the early Christians recognized it's false authorship and misleading content, and refused it as an authentic testamentum.
How many centuries have Christiantards believed that the Revelation is now at hand? This happens every decade for over a millennia already.
Can't you see how retarded that is?
The only conspiracy here is that both Torah and the Bible have been rewritten many times, censored and edited as tools of control for the brainwashed masses who are incapable of critical and independent thought.
There is God you can experience, but it is not in the Pentateuch or Torah or Old testament, and certainly not in the Book of Revelation. If you worship YHWH you worship an insane, jealous, genocidal psychopath humanoid (non-human), who is not a god by any measure.
And neither YHWH nor THE GOD ever wrote or gave humans to write anything as inane as The Book of Revelation.
If you believe in the revelation, you are as retard as any jew who thinks Torah/Talmud are the god's law or a muslim who thinks that Quran is the infallible word of god. A fanatic, brainless controllable believer of nonsense.
I sincerely hope you get your rapture and be over and done with it (finally!), but leave the rest of us out of it, thank you.
Read a fucking book retard. All of my arguments come from actual scholarly researched publications of authors who have studied the original source texts, UNLIKE YOU.
Your proof comes from reading some inane version of English language bible and some youtube videos of some idiotic born again christian "researchers".
Book of Revelation A Biography (Lives of Great Religious Books) , Timothy Beal (PUP, 2018)
Revelations Visions, Prophecy, and Politics in the Book of Revelation; Elaine Pagels (Viking, 2013)
Book of Revelation and its Eastern Commentators Making the New Testament in the Early Christian World, Thomas Schmidt (Cambridge, 2021)
Book of Revelation A Biography (Lives of Great Religious Books) , Timothy Beal (Princeton, 2018)
Manuscripts of the Book of Revelation New Philology, Paratexts, Reception, Garrick V. Allen (Oxford University Press, 2020)
Now put up some scholarly sources or STFU.
Be warned, lucifer wants you to believe all the BS pagan/gnostic nonsense that the OP wrote!
And who is it that you blind Gnostics believe in, isn't it the demiurge (fake creator) aka Lucifer (Satan) himself?
It seems like you're indirectly worshiping the Jews and Muslims and their false gods, who have always rejected the greatest Prophet and only Messiah that has ever walked the earth, Jesus Christ the one and only begotten son of the most high creator God.
You are literally worshiping the devil if you deny Jesus and the only True creator God from the Bible.
Classic christian-retard answer.
First of all, if you had studied ANY history, you'd know:
And no, I'm not a luciferian, nor pagan nor gnostic.
But I fucking read history and you don't even know how to read the fucking the original bible source texts, retard.
Which of us is deluded?
You have no clue what you're talking about buddy, most pagans in human history worshiped the great evil one (lucifer/satan) and his legion of fallen demons. There was serpent worship in almost all ancient pagan cultures all around the world.
https://youtu.be/YC6ImkQLohE
Yes, and they also worshiped the ancient serpent and even sacrificed their own people to it, they threw their own flesh and blood into the fires of baal. You do realize that most if not all of humanity actually worshiped "satan the prince of this world" long before Jesus Christ was even born, right?
The God from the Bible never advocated any human sacrifice (not even by fire), and all of his Prophets despised the baal worshiping Canaanites for their wicked ways.
My ancestors were actually Orthodox Christians for almost one millennium, my friend.
Gnostics is the secret doctrine from the order of the Knights Templar, these heretics literally openly worshiped baphomet and got burned at the stake for it.
It now all makes sense why you're unable to answer my original question, that the gnostic fake creator aka demiurge is lucifer/satan, because there is no way you can refute that Gnostics believe in a fake creator that has the identity of the devil.
I get it, you are just an anti-Theist who is brainwashed by luciferian "NEW AGE" propaganda. Go read some old books homie.
You are beyond deluded if you really believe in lucifers false religions and doctrines, instead of Yahuah the almighty creators word, who actually is the Truth, the life and the only way!