now im not very convince those two things really existed any longer. the mass majority of Neanderthals are all found in cave deposits along the Mediterranean mountain range that extends east thru turkey. theres no real way to date bones in mud in a cave so they use relative dating. meaning its dated based on how deep it was in the mud.

I think they're just pre disaster humans, maybe just a couple thousands years old tbh. Modern dating is a joke

Denivosans are very large red haired humans, similar to descriptions of giants. I think they are also a type of pre disaster human. Its funny to note that they have actually found Neanderthal and denivsans together in a cave.