Going through this transcript of what Manly is talking about. The illuminati. Well I posted that documentary the other week. Let me get that again.. Was pretty good.

Illuminated (2019) - Documentary, The True Story of the Illuminati. 1hr 16min.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43f2UVZdBD0

When are these guys doing this. Founded: May 1, 1776. Then the US starts. July 4, 1776. 3 months later.

But now you got this Mozart guy.. when was he born. January 27, 1756. When did he join freemasonry. He joined 14 December 1784. When was the illuminati disbanded. " the group was suppressed by the Bavarian government in the late 1780s, and its activities ceased."

So what's he saying here in this transcript.

What is this "rites of Isis and Osiris ".

"The "Rites of Isis and Osiris" refer to religious ceremonies and rituals associated with the worship of the ancient Egyptian deities, Isis and Osiris. Isis and Osiris are two of the most significant figures in ancient Egyptian mythology.

Osiris was the god of the afterlife, death, and resurrection. He was also associated with fertility and agriculture. According to the myth, Osiris was murdered by his brother Set (or Seth), who was jealous of his power. After his death, Osiris became the ruler of the underworld.

Isis, his wife and sister, was a powerful goddess known for her magic and maternal qualities. After Osiris's death, Isis managed to bring him back to life temporarily to conceive their son, Horus, who would later become a central deity in Egyptian religion.

The Rites of Isis and Osiris were a series of rituals and ceremonies performed by priests and devotees to honor and venerate these deities. The specific details of these rites are not well-documented, as they were considered sacred and kept within the religious institutions. However, it is believed that the rites involved offerings, prayers, processions, and possibly reenactments of the myth of Osiris's death and resurrection.

The worship of Isis and Osiris was widespread throughout ancient Egypt and continued for centuries. Their cults were also adopted by various cultures beyond Egypt's borders, including the Greco-Roman world, where they were often assimilated into other religious traditions.

It's important to note that these ancient Egyptian religious practices were part of a complex belief system and culture that is now primarily of historical and archaeological interest. Modern interpretations of the Rites of Isis and Osiris tend to be speculative and influenced by various academic and artistic depictions of ancient Egyptian mythology."

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Wait.. what!? Had to do a whole other post about that one. "Isis, his wife and sister, ". Like WTF.

And then I get into, well these freemasons are into the egypt thing. You know shriners and worshipping Lucifer. Let me get a vid.

"FREEMASON/SHRINER ADMITS HE WORSHIP'S LUCIFER"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WAnosY7fS6oH/

so.. come on where chatGPT says oh these freemason guys, no link to them and The "Rites of Isis and Osiris". Meanwhile, they're wearing these Fez hats.

Looking up this line "manuscript in

a European library and to be a true

Count of a man by the name of C Foss who

lived in the Classical period and who

was initiated into the rites of Isis and

Osiris"

What's this C Foss. Noticed this page:

THE SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES by Manly P. Hall

on the fuckin CIA site. lol. Like why there.

https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/E4/E4AAFF6DAF6863F459A8B4E52DFB9FF4_Manly.P.Hall_The.Secret.Teachings.of.All.Ages.pdf

It's probably the stuff he's talking about here. Let's see the table of contents, looks interesting.

Introduction The Ancient Mysteries and Secret Societies Which Have Influenced Modern Masonic Symbolism The Ancient Mysteries and Secret Societies, Part Two The Ancient Mysteries and Secret Societies, Part Three Atlantis and the Gods of Antiquity The Life and Teachings of Thoth Hermes Trismegistus The Initiation of the Pyramid Isis, the Virgin of the World The Sun, A Universal Deity The Zodiac and Its Signs The Bembine Table of Isis Wonders of Antiquity The Life and Philosophy of Pythagoras Pythagorean Mathematics The Human Body in Symbolism The Hiramic Legend The Pythagorean Theory of Music and Color Fishes, Insects, Animals, Reptiles and Birds (Part One) Fishes, Insects, Animals, Reptiles and Birds (Part Two) Flowers, Plants, Fruits, and Trees Stones, Metals and Gems Ceremonial Magic and Sorcery The Elements and Their Inhabitants Hermetic Pharmacology, Chemistry, and Therapeutics The Qabbalah, the Secret Doctrine of Israel

I think this guy's telling us the secret stuff in Freemasonry that they have in plain sight. Let's scroll through it.

THE SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES by Manly P. Hall.

What does he talk about "Rites of Isis and Osiris" in there.

Searching for: Rites of Isis and Osiris in The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall

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The Rites of Isis and Osiris are discussed by Manly P. Hall in his book The Secret Teachings of All Ages, in the chapter titled “Isis, the Virgin of the World”. Hall describes the rites as follows:

“The Rites of Isis and Osiris, celebrated by the Egyptians, were performed for the purpose of commemorating the death and resurrection of the god Osiris, who was identified with the Nile and personified the principle of generation. Osiris was also regarded as the progenitor and molder of human civilization, and as such was analogous to Dionysos, Mithras, and Orpheus. The Rites of Isis symbolized the processes of Nature by which life is renewed and preserved. They also set forth the trials and sufferings of Isis in her search for the mutilated body of her husband, who had been slain by Typhon, the principle of drought, decay, and destruction. The Rites of Isis were very similar to those of Eleusis, and initiates into her Mysteries were revered throughout the ancient world for their purity and sanctity.” 1: p. 104

Hall also explains the symbolism and meaning of the rites in relation to the Egyptian cosmology and theology. He writes:

“The Rites of Isis were divided into two parts: the Lesser Rites and the Greater Rites. The Lesser Rites were concerned with the creation of the world and the establishment of divine order. They included a reenactment of the legend of Ra, the sun god, who emerged from the primordial waters of Nun and created the other gods by his word. The Greater Rites were concerned with the regeneration of life through Osiris, who was also identified with Ra as his son and manifestation. They included a reenactment of the legend of Osiris, who was killed by his brother Set (Typhon), cut into fourteen pieces, and scattered throughout Egypt. His wife Isis, aided by her sister Nephthys and her son Horus, gathered his remains and restored him to life with her magic. Osiris then became the lord of the underworld, where he judged the souls of the dead. Horus avenged his father by defeating Set in a series of battles, and became the king of Egypt and the protector of Maat, the goddess of truth and justice.” 1: pp. 105-106

Hall concludes his chapter by stating:

“The Rites of Isis and Osiris were not only a commemoration of historical events but also a revelation of spiritual truths. They taught that life is stronger than death, that good is stronger than evil, that love is stronger than hate, and that light is stronger than darkness. They also taught that man is a divine being who can overcome his lower nature and attain immortality through initiation into the Mysteries. They also taught that nature is a living organism that responds to human thoughts and emotions, and that man can cooperate with nature by honoring its laws and cycles. The Rites of Isis and Osiris were thus a sublime expression of the ancient wisdom that has inspired countless generations of seekers after truth.” 1: p. 107

Learn more:

1. books.google.com
2. cia.gov
3. en.wikipedia.org
4. en.wikipedia.org

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He says "The proximity of the British Isles to the lost Atlantis. I thought Plato was saying it was by the pillar of hercules, the strait of gibraltar. Now this guy's saying oh it's close to eh british isles. Looking up where.. west of it, north a bit.

This CIA book of hall is pretty thick.. I'll resume that and the hall youtube vid transcript later. lol

ok that 'll help.. gonna check that out. I've heard of this Manly P. Hall before. Tried watching the opera version and couldn't do it. Skipped through it to see scenes that were going on. I can't sit through all that singing, eh. Just the more regular style movie, was still bad singing parts. Almost couldn't do it with that either but did check it all out. You got lots of witchcraft in there.

Starting to watch this.. the audio is kind of muffled. No right side transcript. But it does have CC. Be quicker to just skim through the transcript than sit through 1hr48min. Lets paste all that in here in case there's stuff. 77313 characters. Be 6 parts.

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well this evening we have really

story it involved itself in many

elements and factors that do not lie

strictly within the sphere of music but

in order to give the story somewhat

basic orientation I think will begin on

the campus of the University of

Ingolstadt Bavaria about the Year 1779

start on college campuses and in a time

of great political and social unrest

perhaps young people starting out in

life have the clearest and most

immediate recognition the kind of a

world into which they're going to be

forced by circumstances to live make

their ways linear and on this campus

there were great many groups of young

men who took real condition seriously

who resented the limitations imposed

upon their abilities by a traditional

and reactionary curriculum and like many

of the young people of today we're

convinced that there were better ways of

thinking and better ways of doing things

then were being taught to them already

the atmosphere was taste with

Reformation and revolution and the

general discontent of masses extended

even into the comparatively placid

atmosphere of Bavaria at this time a

young man was making quite a mark for

him

self in the Faculty of Law of the

university when only 27 years of age he

was made Dean of the Faculty of Law

itself a peculiar and remarkable

indication of his own internal abilities

this man's name was Adam vice out and on

May 1st 1776 just two or three months

before the signing of the Declaration of

Independence in the United States

Adam Vice out founded the order of the

Illuminati on the campus of the

University of Ingolstadt though the

original form of this society has been

said to involve two distinct elements a

noble concept of purpose and a total

absence of plan this would be

appropriate under the condition a

movement led by a merry young man fired

by still younger men his own students

whose particular touched him very deeply

the owner of the Illuminati began with

five persons began in the rooms of the

Dean a law fortunately it did not remain

there very long for early in its

development Vice out came in contact

with two very important men dr. bold and

Battenberg Vega

these two powerful intellectuals leaders

in their own worlds fired with the

concept behind this movement through

their personal weight of their personal

influence and with a result that was to

be quite outstanding an unprecedented

the study of the aluminous order in its

brief history or it only survived a very

few years tells us the file numerically

its membership was never large the

quality of that membership was

reminiscent of the almanac de Gotha

practically every important man in the

progressive motion of European life

including a number of princes and rulers

were members of this fraternity one of

the earliest actions decided upon by

Vice house was the tremendous necessity

or the maintenance of complete secrecy

at that time Engel stock was a nominal

Jesuit college and for many years to

come the struggle between the church and

the Liberals was to be heated and

constant as who the Illuminati devised

an ingenious scheme they took a map of

Europe and they divided it according to

a map of the ancient world restoring in

different places the names of them

forgotten lorem least long dead empires

and kingdoms

they then divided their own members

assigning to each one a classical name

by which it would be almost impossible

to identify them and they wrote their

own sort of private historical geography

of world situations

for a purpose it is important to note

that in their new geography the

Illuminati assigned the name Egypt to

Austria and that from that time all in

all of their official documents

references to Egypt were references to

Austria

the purposes behind the motion of the

Illuminati were several first and

perhaps foremost the advancement of the

right of the human being think the

intellectual progress should be rescued

from a reactionary traditional form and

allowed to develop an unfold according

to humanist concepts and instincts

another important phase of their

activity was the statement of their

slogan or the model of their society

namely liberty equality and fraternity

and these exact words later became the

cry of the French Revolution there is

much to indicate that the French

Revolution was influenced by the

aluminous or the Illuminati moved behind

the circus picture and whose names were

associated with a number of prominent

individuals and intellectuals moving in

the great era of revolutions among the

most distinguished of the aluminous

should be include included Goethe the

Prince of sex violent and mysterious and

elusive saint-germain the equally

mysterious though not quite so elusive

Kallstrom and lagos Claude st. Martin

and numerous other leaders in the great

struggle on the rights of man it is

believed that this movement

affected deeply Russo and Voltaire and

later in the alleged States both

Jefferson and Thomas Paine were accused

of being members of this organization so

in acquired but persuasive manner the

Illuminati spread beneath the surface of

European thought and its principal

rituals ceremonies and rites were based

upon the mysteries of the Greeks and

Egyptians for vice how himself was a

classicist and among his desires was to

restore the great philosophical systems

of initiation education which dominated

the ancient world he was unable to

obtain this in but he still struggled

valiantly toward it and in their brief

span the Illuminati became a most

disconcerting force in European politics

largely because they were so difficult

to identify and their presence was

universally suspected whether they were

there or not the power of this

organization became almost similar to

that of the Ku Klux Klan in the south

after the Civil War it was feared by

many honored by some and regarded as

little short of miraculous by others it

gradually attracted to itself and in

glad with symbolism derived partly from

alchemy partly from apology partly from

capitalism and all the mysterious secret

societies of the 16th and 17th centuries

in the midst of all this excitement

Adam vice Hulk became a freemason and

this was to have a bearing upon the

later development for the lodge that he

joined was almost immediately absorbed

into the aluminous movement and it was

not until considerably later when the

great Masonic councils were held

to clarify the degrees and rights of the

order that the aluminous were forced to

clarify their Masonic position it was

all quite an involved in difficult

situation but this is one of our roots

because we learn by careful

investigation but the outstanding

aluminous in Austria was better neatness

from born who was a metallurgist and

highly honored in the court of Maria

Theresa this important man was a

personal friend of Massage and it is

believed that in the designing of the

opera The Magic Flute her bones applied

much of the material at least

symbolically speaking for the creation

of the character of Sarastro the great

priest of the mysteries of Isis and

Osiris Mozart himself was recommended

form Freemasonry by Baron von Gilligan a

distinguished member of the Order and

the lodge to which he belonged by some

circumstance was also very closely

associated with bon bon and when this

great chemist perfected his method for

metallic amalgamation and certain

formulas for the hardening and purifying

of metals Mozart wrote a piece of music

to be played in the lodge which at that

time how the festival in honor of unborn

so we find that Mozart gaiter the prince

of sax violin maker bold and later the

man who was entrusted with the

development of the story of the Magic

Flute second Eden were all members of

the Masonic Order this has certain

bearing upon our problem but we will

cause in this direction for a moment and

go back into another interesting by way

that leads in the same general direction

about seventeen thirty one there was

issued a book called the life of seat

boss incidentally we have a copy of the

rare first English edition of this work

in our library for anyone who wishes to

consult it it was published first in

about seventeen thirty one and came to

do English about seventeen sixty or

seventy or they're about the life of

seat boss was another book looking for

an author which sometimes happens in the

world of literature many suspects were

advanced but no one was ever finally

decided as the beauty for the

perpetration of this volume the story

claimed weapon found as a manuscript in

a European library and to be a true

Count of a man by the name of C Foss who

lived in the Classical period and who

was initiated into the rites of Isis and

Osiris the third book of Sethos deals

therefore largely with the ritual of

initiation centering upon the passing of

Orpheus and era d c-- through the rites

and rituals of the underworld various

authors have commented upon the book of

Sethos it has generally been accepted as

a fabrication who fabricated it and why

no knows but whoever did have a

considerable familiarity with the

writings of the classical authors and

his production belongs with two others

one called the initiation of Plato and

the other the chrono rapport or the

rituals of initiation into the Greek and

Egyptian mysteries all of which came out

at about the same time

and contributed to the establishment of

the Egyptian rite of freemasonry by

Alessandro telescope all of these

different facets also indicated that in

the 18th century there was a powerful

rise of interest in Egyptian philosophy

this rise was prior to the discovery of

the Rosetta Stone and nearly all of the

records available were those from Roman

sources as Britons the hieroglyphics of

Harappa lowliness in any event however

there was a fanciful restoration of

Egyptology and this continued to remain

more or less imaginative until through

the cooperation of Napoleon the rosetta

stone was made available to the students

of Egyptology and Europe in Europe and

Shambala supplied the necessary key to

which interpretation so we have the book

of steeples probably itself originating

in one of the secret societies of Europe

written for a distinct and definite

purpose this purpose very close to its

ultimate adaptation by Mozart these

elements then seem to tell us something

of the background of what as sometimes

been referred to as Mozart's comic opera

this is a bit of an exaggeration for

there is nothing really less comic than

the concept or the purpose behind it I

think we also have to bear in mind just

a little something about Mozart himself

we know him as the musician we know him

as a man struggling for years against

poverty we know him as a genius and an

artist and then practically an infant

prodigy but perhaps what we do not know

about him was his fiery patriotism he

was a man ruled from within himself by

exactly the type of motivation that

inspired by South in the founding of the

aluminous movement it has never been

possible to prove by documentation that

Mozart belonged to this order but

certainly his sympathies were strongly

with it he was a patriot he was fighting

desperately as maybe later we find in

the case in Hungary of the filthy sand

or also a point also a mystic fighting

desperately for the freedom of the

Magyars

this great struggle for a for mental or

elect intellectual emancipation in

Europe influenced Mozart's career to a

large degree to its economic detriment

he's very dislike for patronage as it

had been previously doled out his

resistance to merely becoming a pawn a

musical pawn in the corner of Austria

contributed to his impoverishment

probably his discouragement and early

death but we don't out South was a

person of great humanitarian convictions

and perhaps in the story of the Magic

Flute he has summarized or brought

together the choicest of his reflections

and with the assistance of those who

cooperated to make the project possible

he was able to fit together a very

convincing and very wonderful allegory

it is also noted in the libretto of The

Magic Flute that while mysteries symbols

and even occasional Masonic emblems

appear and are used there is not one

single line of the Opera that can be

considered in any way an expose a

masonry evidently Mozart being himself

under the obligations of the crack was

exceedingly careful and conscientious in

producing a fantasy

that was essential in masonic and yet

without any direct bearing which might

be regarded as an expose of masonry now

the interpreters of the story have a

variety of possible selections upon

which to base the purpose of the Opera

itself perhaps it would be well

therefore to point out that at that time

the sonic lodges in Austria were having

a rather bad period Maria Teresa was

violently opposed to the order but her

son Joseph ii was in south elation and

this brought the controversy directly

into the royal household maria theresa

is known or one occasion to have visited

a Masonic Lodge and attempted to break

it out by introducing troops soldiers

detectives and other personnel from the

state at that particular time where old

son was enlarged with the brother and

then had to depart hastily through a

back window all of this might indicate

that situations were a bit tense at that

time in fact after the comparatively

liberal reign of joseph the austrian

masonry they said to have may be said to

have almost completely vanished and for

nearly a century there was no masonic

activities under the Black Eagle of the

hapsburgs so the situation of masonry

was precarious and masonry at that time

was being tied very closely to the

revolutionary spirit rising in Europe

[transcript part 2]

and associated

very closely with the determination to

improve educational opportunities for

the people and to advance democracy and

what pain is also a police / - as the

rights of man this situation is more or

less involved in Mozart's personal life

and considerably involved in the story

of the Magic Flute we know that this

also was not Mossad only Masonic

contributions he prepared the short

pieces of music based even upon the

themes of Masonic ritual these were

played by the lodge and the lodge to

which you belong fade his widow a small

amount of money for the rights to his

Masonic music after his death this small

amount of money relatively nothing

constituted the major part of his estate

for England to this day the grave of

Mozart is unknown because he was buried

in potter's field the mourners were so

few that even the spot remained

unidentified and his wife was travelling

in the distant region at the time so are

Mozart as far as his own physical life

is concerned lived a very difficult and

so Laden existence but there was a

tremendous spirit within the man which

was revealed not only through his music

but through his humanitarian instincts

and ideals

so now perhaps we have laid some

foundation for a more capital

examination of the story itself the

story the Magic Flute is a comparatively

simple one but it has a number of

interesting minor involvements in the

first place it deals with a romantic

fairytale situation derived in part from

the mythology of the Ancients especially

the abduction of precipitate by Hades

which of course ties it directly to the

Ilyas Tinian mysteries of the Greeks in

this story as it is

presented in the Opera a handsome young

man the eternal hero of the world Prince

Tomino wanders mysteriously and

strangely into the domains of the queen

of the night now the queen of the light

rules over a fanciful world and in this

world which is much of the world of grim

man Anderson many strange and miraculous

things can happen and welcome stunning

always wandering in this region he is

attacked by a great serpent this great

serpent pursues him and as the young

princes are armed he finds great

difficulty in escaping and gives up all

hope that his life will be spared when

three mysterious names or Gina appear on

the Spears with silver points these slay

the servant even while the prince

himself lies unconscious with exhaustion

on the ground when he awakens from his

exhaustion and from the abject fear into

which the experience has precipitated

him the offense looks up to find himself

confronted by a most extraordinary

creature this creature gives the rough

impression of being human but actually

the parts of his body are covered with

bird feathers and he jumps around and

makes strange sounds and noises and

seems quite the clown and quite the

eccentric he is propaganda a mysterious

being who is more or less of a fool and

a bottle Pagano is always boastful

however and under a little pressure

admits that he is the one who slew the

snake and saved the young prince about

this time the three Gina may or

laden with their Silvertip spears appear

tell the truth and punish Papageno by

placing upon his lips a padlock so that

he may not speak from that time on so

the for sometimes he sometime he wanders

about grunting and puffing against the

padlock but one able to make any

particularly articulate sounds the three

maidens or the three Jean I then tell

the young prince Tomino that they belong

to the sweet of the queen of the light

that she knows that he has wandered into

her region and that she desires to speak

to him and know him because he has a

very definite and particular errand

which she would like to have him perform

in due course the young prince discovers

what this errand is it seems that the

daughter of the queen of the night has

been strangely and mysteriously abducted

by a mysterious person named Sarastro

was grand master of the mysteries of

Isis and Osiris now all across the queen

of the night wishes her daughter Amina

to be restored to her and so she

supplies the young prince with certain

things necessary to accomplish the

rescuing of this fair maid among other

things because he does not know the

region or is he capable of coping with

the enchantments of Sarastro she gives

him a Magic Flute with seven openings on

which strange and wonderful melodies can

be played and she also gives him a jewel

encrusted framed portrait of her

daughter so that he may recognize the

princess when he sees her as a somewhat

less useful aid or what you made

and associate the imprints also inherits

Papageno who premises to complicate

almost any situation a fabricator of

course also needs something to help him

to take care of the difficulties of his

assignment so he is given an instrument

called a branch of bells which in

actuality is a form of the old Egyptian

system or Apple what we use in

connection with the ceremonies of the

Temple of Isis the group then start out

on their journey and with due improper

adventures attempt the rescue of the

fair princess who is being held in

bondage presumably by Sarastro they come

finally to this palace which is

presented in the Opera as an Egyptian

like building or temple and here priests

and other dignitaries bearing Masonic

symbols and chanting ancient rituals and

form an appropriate background now we

were also introduced at this time to

another interesting and rather curious

character who is a sort of jail keeper

or general overseer in the court of

Sarastro

and this is moral status the more a

strange dark man who would like to be a

villain but is not very successful at it

as a villain he is in love with the fair

princess but she not only sponge his

advances

but Sarastro ever watchful make certain

that all his conspiracies come tonight

so that the more plays the part of the

very frustrated individual who is unable

to succeed in almost any of his

undertakings of course the meeting of

Femina and Kamino results in the rise of

romance

and Sarastro guards this situation also

with great thoughtfulness in the due

time the queen of the night who is not

at all pleased with the direction that

events are taking also enters into the

Paris of Celesteville possibly perhaps

reminiscent of Maria Theresa trying to

break up the Masonic meeting in Vienna

and gives her daughter a dagger

suggesting that it would be wise for her

to slay Sarastro

at this time however the young prince

becomes under an obligation of secrecy

in connection with the rituals of the

mysteries of Isis and Osiris while under

secrecy he is misunderstood by Femina

who thinking that he no longer cares for

her attempts to kill herself the plot

becomes more and more complicated at

this time but in their attempt to leave

the palace or to leave the shrine of

initiation the two young people come

under the direct influence of Sarastro

who prepares them and for them the

elaborate ceremonial of initiation into

the rites of Isis and Osiris while

wandering about also in the mysterious

underworld

Papageno has quite a little experience

of his own he has only one great desire

in life and that is to find himself a

peasant mate of mentality and date

nature similar to his own because he is

quite an eccentric it looks very

doubtful if he'll ever succeed but in

this underground and subterranean region

of mysteries he is confronted with an

ancient witch or hag who is about as

what he demands as anything could

possibly be she is a horrible creature

but with the considerable force of

character she point out that unless he

will consent to marry her he will never

leave the underworld alive this is a

very powerful situation and leaves poor

Papagayo who is no hero at any time with

very little choice in due course however

it shows that this strength which light

person is really a good spirit in

disguise because suddenly the old hag is

transformed into the feathered mate that

Papageno has been seeking all of time

and they of course have a joyous union

and all goes well with them in the

meantime the rituals of Isis and Osiris

are arranged and the two young lovers

passed through the strange ceremonies of

the underworld the stage for this is

very beautifully set and when the

curtain rises the tests of the elements

are revealed the stage is so divided

that it has three doorways one in the

center and one on each side the side

doors are graded or covered with the

bars and behind the one on one side is

seen flames rising and smoke and

combustion whereas on the other side

behind the door has seen streams of

water like a great waterfall flowing

from an unknown source between these

doors and the central entrance our high

calm surrounded by figures in Armour it

is a very impressive scene pnina and

Tamina of the young lovers are able to

pass through

the initiations because he plays

constantly upon the flute and because of

the music of the flute no ill can come

to him having therefore passed

successfully through the flames and

through the test of water the young

lovers pass through the central door the

scene changes and there is a great

Chappell temple of the district's he is

presided over by Sarastro in his flowing

robes bearing a scepter surmounted by a

deposit and radiant Sun blue and

surrounded by his priests musicians and

retinue the great master on an elephant

blesses the young couple unites them in

spiritual union and assures them that

they have passed successfully through

this great test which was prepared for

them everything ends in a note of heroic

victory and in a musical situation which

suggests great elevation and spiritual

accomplishment and consciousness this is

in very brief the story of the Opera and

it is upon this foundation that the

various critics have attempted to

explain it interpret it and discover its

inner meaning at least five different

systems have been applied to the

interpretation of the Magic Flute these

cover almost every phase of contemporary

life and philosophical abstraction first

of all it has been presumed for example

that the queen of the night represented

definitely Maria Teresa this concept is

extended also into other phases the

young prince Tomino is believed to be

joseph ii who was in favor of an a

protector of masonry in austria by this

same concept

tamina tamina is the Austrian people

whose the salvation and redemption the

young prince is determined to advance

Sarastro is a combination of masonry

science knowledge education and reason

representing practically all of the

forces of the new humanism and the

spirit of progress and liberation which

is to initiate the people of Austria

into psychological and even literal

democratic living and thinking in this

same concept the Blackmore molar status

becomes the symbol of the Jesuits which

at that time were regarded as

particularly difficult because a certain

man under their influence by the name of

Hofmann was responsible for scandals

against masonry which caused the closing

of the Austrian lodges therefore he is

believed to have been personified in

this drama or in this concept

thus the drama would be very largely an

unfoldment of the political life of the

time but it is quite improbable that

such exhausted Mozart's original

intention because he certainly used a

favorable situation because in many

respects the more the interpretations

and the more numerous the viewpoints the

more certain the real meaning could be

concealed because it was always possible

to blame it to this or blame it to that

and keep it away from those who might

otherwise be moved to act against it in

a powerful and organized manner as a

fantasy it could be produced and

presented where the same remarks have

been made in a severe literary style the

author

would probably have been subjected to

extreme punishment imprisonment or exile

now we'll be going to the this question

a little further than we realize that

the entire drama derived in part at

least from the life of seagulls

does go back to a certain degree into

the rituals of the old mysteries we're

much more than contemporary politics

would be considered we recognize under

the veil therefore of the queen of the

night

and the ancient goddess Cori or series

who was the strange and peculiar

patroness of the harvest and of the

rituals of food and plenty and the home

and to a great degree the entire normal

or moral life of mankind

it was the daughter of Cori Persephone

who was abducted by Hades or Pluto and

taken into the underworld the abduction

therefore could well parallel the

abduction of Femina who was taken away

by Sarastro a strange person living in a

darkened sphere or palace with

subterranean abodes and mysterious

places beneath it this deity of course

is also as closely associated with

Osiris who after his martyrdom became

Lord of the underworld and the rituals

of the Osirian rites were nearly always

practiced in subterranean caves or

or rooms under the temples so here we

have two phases of the god of the

underworld abducting the fair daughter

of the goddess of the night under the

same situation mana status a pay plays

very close to the Egyptian concept of

typhoon the betrayer the false one who

was also referred to as dark and who was

believed to have been a form of the

Prince of evil these characters being

variously distinguished it becomes

evident then that the young Prince

always represents the person the

initiate the hero the one to whom these

adventures must naturally occur and

through regeneration and whose

enlightenment represents across the

liberation of man himself so we can add

a new group of elements involved in this

which can go even as far as Asia if we

wish to in search of a deeper and more

mystical and metaphysical meaning for

our story in this same classification

Papageno comes in also as a form of the

old deity pan the god of nature and of

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course the system symbolizing the

agitations of nature as Plutarch says

could associate with him as well as with

Isis whose part also seemingly mingles

with that of the queen of the night so

we have quick complicated situation

which calls perhaps for an

interpretation on a level of Greek

metaphysical philosophy this is

perfectly reasonable in as much as it

was dominating the illuminance of the

time particularly one born who was

brought in and consultation on the

development of the Opera and quite

possibly was very close to the soul

our Lord sir himself when on one

occasion Gaeta was told that the magic

fruit was little better than the fantasy

he replied quietly it may seem sold to

the average spectator but not to those

of us who are initiated and he seemed to

be very clear in his statement of this

point so now we have an interesting

concept to build upon the Egyptians

divided the universe into three

essential parts one was a universe of

spirit or of eternal life the abode of

the gods one was a sphere of matter

which as in the case of the Platonic

philosophy and Greece was called the

underworld and between these two was the

abode of heroes or of those who had

liberated themselves from darkness or

who have been born again through the

rights of illustris in Egypt as in many

other ancient custom countries we find

that Isis as the mother of mysteries as

the great Diana goddess of the Ephesians

the multi banya the universal mother

that this deity always represents the

mystery school itself she is the widow

whose sons become the liberators and the

Golden Hawks of life who are to save the

world

therefore the initiate was always

referred to as the son of the widow

because Isis for wearing the weeds of a

widow and the dashes upon her head

wandered about the earth mourning the

loss of her Lord the god Osiris the

mysteries then were nocturnal and

subterranean and consisted principally

of an account of the wandering of the

human soul in the underworld

during the state of mortality or

ignorance Plutarch in his king of the

nymphs gives us another example of this

drama and part of the setting would

almost agree with the great initiation

scene in the Magic Flute according to

Plutarch the cave of the nymphs who

might well be the three g-9 who appeared

to the young prince has two openings one

of which is the entrance and the other

is the exit from this entrance steps

lead downward into a crypt and opposing

upon the opposite side steps ascend to

an exit and the gate of entrance is

called Kansa and the gate of exit is

called Capricorn and the Dome of the

cave is covered with stars but the

bottom of it is rough and rocky and it

is filled with strange shadows and

wonderful and lamenting music is heard

and strange spirits move about and those

who enter into this underworld are

attacked by shadows by mysterious

monsters against whom they must contend

the victory the same situation was set

up in the catacombs under Rome in the

celebration of the ancient Mithraic

mysteries and when the Emperor Commodus

was initiated into the Midway cripes he

was attacked by phantoms and defended

himself so vigorously that he killed one

of the priests accidentally who was

disguised as a phantom the Rome and the

dramatic ritual seemingly affected the

Emperor a little too strenuously as the

ritual of this situation proceeds we see

that through the gate of birth man

descends into a dark world ruled over by

mysteries ruled

by mortality and death and in this world

which is also the world of pen the world

which we referred to in our last

discussion in which myth this toe plays

the part of the deity pad in the Magic

Flute is a more or less helpless

creature a mountebank

but does still represent the accidents

and vicissitudes of nature and of the

rustic or natural situation of primitive

mankind in the ritual of initiation

therefore man born at the gate of cancer

is immediately presented with the cup of

leaping which is a small constellation

near to cancer which is called the

constellation of the trapper or cup in

this constellation and in the symbol

error man born into matter goes to sleep

or loses all memory for the cup of leafy

is the cup of forgetfulness he therefore

by forgets his heavenly origin forgets

the world for which he came and finds

himself

strangely immersed in the mysterious

regions ruled all over the queen of the

night and the queen of the night is the

moon and later the queen of the night is

Isis but to man coming into the world at

the beginning this material world is not

a place of initiation or a place of

regeneration it is a place of terrors

and fears ruled over by the tyranny of

darkness and ignorance

therefore the queen of the night maybe

both Maria Teresa as a symbol of the

absolute sovereignty and tyranny of

matter or Isis as the ever prudent and

ever guiding mother the nurse the Hathor

the car headed one in Egypt lead souls

finally to the realization that the

periences of mortality are for the

regeneration of mom are not merely for

his destruction in any event the

wandering through the underworld carries

man into the presence of the serpent and

the danger of death the serpent appears

in the Sigurd staros

young Siegfried or Sigurd must slay it

and the slaying of the dragon or the

serpent as found in the myth of st.

George of Cappadocia also in comes into

this picture the serpent is the ancient

symbol of illusion and the struggle

between man his mind is being his life

and illusion is a very important one

even in the time of the rise of the

French mysteries during the period of

Cagliostro and saint-germain it was

pointed out that man possesses within

himself a mysterious agency which is

called the astral light the astral light

is the substance from which the Magic

Garden of King Saul was composed in the

Opera possible and the 19th century

French transcendentalist amethyst levy

refers to the astral light as a

mysterious world of beauty and flowers

beautiful blossoms radiant and inspiring

and around the stem of each flower

twisted a poisonous serpent to quite a

dramatic symbolic picture but the world

of the astral light is simply the sphere

of human imagination uncontrolled and

undirected by reason it is man subject

constantly to the delusions of his own

emotions and thinking so man seeking to

control master or even survive in the

darkness of the underworld must slay the

serpent of imagination or in this case

the severe serpent of fantasy this is

actually excellent

because it is told to us in the

teachings of the Diamond Sutra for

example that because of the phenomenal

existence engendered by the sensory

function of man the human being lives in

a world that has no existence except

that which he bestows upon it the human

being who could move serenely like the

candidate for the mistress through this

dark region and come safely to the gate

of Capricorn which leads through the

mystery of death to the mystery of

immortality this human being instead of

living a dignified and Noble existence

in the underworld and its mysterious

passage ways is actually tormented

constantly by fantasy and hallucination

fantasy in this case meaning all false

or unreasonable ends or ideas which

dominate him the fantasy of ambition the

fantasy of pride of selfishness of greed

the fantasy of passion and appetite the

fantasy of success or failure all of the

innumerable forces which deprive man of

his natural nobility may be inferred we

perhaps know a little better about this

fantasy element then was generally known

100 or 200 years ago because it is

coming strongly to us in our studies of

psychology we know that the end that the

delusions frustrations neuroses

complexes and psychosis which affect man

are nothing but delusions arising within

himself his own false estimations of

value his own misunderstandings his own

natural instincts to be selfish to

create doubt and uncertainty and his

criticism is jealousy all of these they

turning upon him like monsters destroy

his peace of mind and preventing thereby

from fulfilling the natural destiny for

which is intended the three Jean I like

the three fates of the three Dawn's

represent the dimensions of time they

also represent the intuitive powers by

means of which man is able to be

protected from these evils in one system

of interpretation they are likened to

the Three Graces faith hope and charity

through the practice of which the dread

the dragon or demon is discomforted and

the serpent is killed with the silver

tipped Spears also in this lower world

man discovers another kind of creature

for Papageno this creature has never

lived anywhere else and represents the

natural and rustic nature of primitive

man here the truth seeker discovered for

example that the world around it was

filled with people do not particularly

wish to know anything not interested in

seeking truth but interested only in

finding a lake like themselves and

settling down and living out their lives

they have no ambitions of any importance

no aspirations they do not know how to

tell the truth and in order to control

of at all a padlock must be placed upon

their lips they represent a primitive

type of materiality which also is to be

found lurking in this subterranean world

and this materiality divides itself in

the nature of man for as Gator says in

his Faust that are two souls within man

one to the heaven aspires and the other

in the Earth's aspires and many people

many interpreters have held the Papageno

represents the lower octave of the hero

himself representing compromise comfort

and all these things which would lower

the individual way from great and noble

purpose another interpretation of course

is that Papageno simply represents the

physical body which never knows what

anything is about battles constantly and

is constantly pressing forward for the

fulfillment of its physical creature

comforts and its biological urges this

body cannot and must not be acknowledged

as a leader and yet in some mysterious

way it must be present because without

the fool the uro cannot undertake his

journey and the body thereby becomes

this nominal hindrance this capering

feathered thing which contributes very

little that does make an occasional

fairly valid contribution to the general

situation if we consider therefore that

the Papageno represents simply matter

either in the physical life of man in

the materialism of the human mind or in

the rustic materialism of human society

we probably will not be too far from the

facts of the matter the body seeking

only peace comfort and security is not

heroic but may be forced to an

occasional exhibition of heroism by the

hero self that lives within it thus the

young prince wandering around in search

of his mission is presented with the

next important concept which we find in

physics Isis Korn series the great

diameter of the Ephesians and many other

of these deities actually embody or

personify or represent in the mystery

systems the world soul or the great

psychic nature which lies in the root

substance or archetypal measure of

things according to the Greek mythology

the great gods the spiritual beings the

unmoved movers are all things caused to

emanate from themselves that which is

called the self moving and the self

moving is the psychic field or the

median distance in man's nature which we

call today the soul the soul in nature

according to pythagoras is its animating

part therefore it is the animal or the

psychic energy sphere from which all of

man's sensory and even his intuitive

faculties are supported and sustained

modern psychology would define the soul

principally as mind and emotion

the ancients however would have had a

slightly different concept they did not

consider the mind as part of the soul

essentially they considered the

intellectual principle as a separate

spiritual element in nature but they did

count that part of man which is

essentially religious the emotion of

devotion a world of piety these things

pertain to the soul which Pythagoras

represented by an eighth face

symmetrical solid because he said that

the soul had eight attributes of which

the lowest or eighth was the attribute

of generation if therefore the world

sold the psychic field

which is the soul of deity would be

regarded as Isis or as the queen of the

night then the human soul would be her

daughter a part from this universal soul

Socrates the contemplative life the

attainment of the various cathartic

disciplines the relaxation of man's

pressures the overcoming of selfishness

and personal intensities and the

cultivation of the noble and serene life

of wisdom these things cause a

separation between the soul and the body

by which the soul is permitted to be

clarified to become the ruler of the

body or the master of it and is given

dominion over the corporeal nature and

its limitations thus it is said that by

death the body is violently separated

from the soul but by initiation into the

mysteries the soul is gently separated

from the body and the difference becomes

essentially part of the old rituals if

then we consider the hero to be the

spirit purpose the will of man resolve

to rescue his own soul from its

subterranean abode we can see why

entering into the regions of Sarastro

that the drama should be concluded by

what appears to be an irrelevant

ceremony in the original form of the

story there seems no reason why the

rescuing of a pnina should result in a

ritual of initiation it is not

particularly indicated as necessary the

point of course is that there is no

we out of the underworld without the

mystery of initiation there are only two

ways out of matter violent through death

gentle through wisdom that which is

violent however is a separation of the

body from the soul but is not in any

sense a relieving of the soul the burden

of worldliness death takes man out of

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