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Browsing some of Sony, Columbia's movies.. notice Anonymous (2011). The imdb page isn't a trailer it's a 7 minute clip talking to the director Roland Emmerich with points about how Shakespeare was a fraud. Gonna check this movie out and see what they say. Why would the cabal fake this guy. (www.imdb.com)
posted 2 years ago by newfunturistic 2 years ago by newfunturistic +5 / -0
Anonymous (2011) ⭐ 6.8 | Drama, Thriller
2h 10m | 12A
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– newfunturistic [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Asking Bing AI about this a bit.

movie Anonymous (2011). What are the points they try to claim how Shakespeare was a fraud.

Searching for: Anonymous (2011 film) Shakespeare

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The movie Anonymous (2011) is a fictionalized version of the life of Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford, who is portrayed as the true author of William Shakespeare’s plays. The movie tries to claim that Shakespeare was a fraud by presenting the following points:

Edward de Vere was a brilliant poet and playwright who had to conceal his identity because of his high rank and his involvement in political intrigues. He used the pseudonym of William Shakespeare, a barely literate actor, to publish his works1

Edward de Vere had a personal and artistic relationship with Queen Elizabeth I, who was also his mother. He was the illegitimate son of Elizabeth and her lover, the Earl of Oxford. He fathered several children with Elizabeth, including the Earl of Southampton, who was his patron and lover1

Edward de Vere was the leader of a group of writers and actors who opposed the puritanical rule of the Cecils, the Queen’s advisers. He used his plays to criticize their policies and to support the Essex Rebellion, a failed attempt to overthrow them. He also revealed his true identity and his royal lineage in some of his plays, such as Hamlet and Richard III12

Edward de Vere died in 1604, before many of Shakespeare’s plays were written. He left behind a large collection of manuscripts that were later used by Ben Jonson, another playwright and friend of de Vere, to continue publishing plays under Shakespeare’s name. Jonson also tried to protect de Vere’s legacy from being exposed by the Cecils and their agents1

The movie is based on the Oxfordian theory of Shakespeare authorship, which was first proposed by J. Thomas Looney in 1920. However, this theory has been widely rejected by most scholars and historians, who consider it to be based on speculation, anachronism, and conspiracy. There is no conclusive evidence to support the claim that de Vere wrote Shakespeare’s plays, and there is plenty of evidence to support the claim that Shakespeare did3

Learn more:

  1. en.wikipedia.org
  2. imdb.com
  3. theguardian.com 1 of 30

At the imdb page of the movie is a 7 minute clip talking to the director. He talks about points like lack of proof of Shakespeare's handwriting. Got anything on that?

Searching for: Shakespeare handwriting evidence

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The director of the movie Anonymous, Roland Emmerich, is one of the proponents of the Oxfordian theory of Shakespeare authorship, which claims that Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford, was the true writer of Shakespeare’s works. In the clip, he talks about some of the arguments that support this theory, such as:

The lack of proof of Shakespeare’s handwriting. Emmerich says that there are only six signatures of Shakespeare that survive, and they are all different and illegible. He also says that there is no evidence that Shakespeare ever wrote a letter or a poem in his own hand. He contrasts this with de Vere, who left behind many letters and poems in his handwriting1

The discrepancy between Shakespeare’s biography and his works. Emmerich says that Shakespeare was a provincial actor who had little education and no travel experience. He wonders how he could have written such sophisticated and diverse plays that show a deep knowledge of history, politics, law, foreign languages, and court life. He suggests that de Vere, who was a nobleman, a scholar, a traveler, and a courtier, had a much more suitable background for writing Shakespeare’s works1

The hidden clues in the texts and the portraits. Emmerich says that there are many hints and codes in Shakespeare’s works that point to de Vere as the real author. He mentions the use of anagrams, ciphers, puns, and symbols that reveal de Vere’s identity and his relationship with Queen Elizabeth I. He also says that there are similarities between de Vere’s portrait and the Droeshout engraving of Shakespeare that appears on the First Folio1

However, these arguments are not accepted by most scholars and historians, who consider them to be based on speculation, anachronism, and conspiracy. There is no conclusive evidence to support the claim that de Vere wrote Shakespeare’s works, and there is plenty of evidence to support the claim that Shakespeare did. For example:

The lack of proof of Shakespeare’s handwriting is not surprising, given the scarcity of documents from that period. However, there are some examples of Shakespeare’s handwriting that are widely recognized by experts, such as his signatures on legal documents and his possible contribution to the manuscript of Sir Thomas More. These examples show that Shakespeare had a distinctive and legible handwriting style that was different from de Vere’s23

The discrepancy between Shakespeare’s biography and his works is not a valid reason to doubt his authorship. Shakespeare was not an uneducated or inexperienced man. He attended grammar school in Stratford-upon-Avon, where he learned Latin, rhetoric, and classical literature. He also had access to books, manuscripts, and translations that provided him with sources and information for his plays. He was a successful actor and shareholder in a leading theater company in London, where he gained exposure to various aspects of culture and society. He also traveled around England with his company, performing for different audiences and patrons3

The hidden clues in the texts and the portraits are not reliable or convincing evidence for de Vere’s authorship. They are often based on subjective interpretations, selective readings, or faulty assumptions. They also ignore or contradict other clues that support Shakespeare’s authorship, such as his name on the title pages of his works, his references to his own life and career in his sonnets and plays, and his recognition by his contemporaries and successors as the author of his works. The similarities between de Vere’s portrait and the Droeshout engraving are superficial and coincidental. They do not prove any connection or resemblance between de Vere and Shakespeare3

Therefore, the points that Emmerich tries to claim in the clip are not supported by solid evidence or logic. They are part of a controversial and minority view that challenges the established consensus on Shakespeare’s authorship.

Learn more:

  1. smithsonianmag.com
  2. en.wikipedia.org
  3. warwick.ac.uk 2 of 30

I don't know.. gonna check out the movie, see what they say. But it's like.. what else do you "know" from what they provide us, where, what you think, is "lies".. so who knows.. maybe they did that with this stuff from back then. But "why", right. Why would they fake this guy. It's not like some religion like a bible where they change things over the years.

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– newfunturistic [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Watching this.. coming up to 1hr. They're doing plays but it's kind of neat. I see some fire and witch craft, I'm there.. that seems like their luciferian agenda these days with the movies. All this shit is these cabal guys.

I look into that one..

"Macbeth, the Thane of Glamis, receives a prophecy from a trio of witches that one day he will become King of Scotland. Consumed by ambition and spurred to action by his wife, Macbeth murders his king and takes the throne for himself."

55min.. after a play Shakespeare comes out and crowd surfs. Now he's like a rock star. Think of how they puppet whoever, right. Same shit with this dude.

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