I'm simply asking you what is holding the sun and earth in their orbits and trajectory. Seems the mainstream gravity answer has quite low odds of describing earth and sun happening to end up as we observe them. And I would think there is an up and down relative to the center of the "universe" in heliocentric model. There are also supposed pictures of the universe and one can use x y and z to determine up and down directions relative to reference point.
Once again, a quick Google search reveals depictions, pictures, and even animations of the entire observable universe. For calling me uninformed, it is quite ironic that you don't know or are ignorant to what the modern "science" says. I recommend at least doing a Google search before calling someone names if you may be incorrect. So one can find the center of it and reference it for cardinal directions and "up" or "down" . Flat earther or globe earther , there is public domain "science" that gives everyone the same foundational indoctrination.
Do you even realize that you constantly move the goalposts? You claimed there were pictures of "the universe". There are no such pictures.
You claim that there is a "center of the universe". There is no such thing.
You are extremely ignorant about the subject. You half understand words and then make up a narrative around it out of your ignorance without even trying to find out what those words mean.
So, again:
There is no center of the universe.
There is no up and down in space.
Are you confusing universe and galaxy maybe? North and south are used to describe orientation in a galaxy.
Okay, what more do you have to add that hasn't been said by NASA and the government and "scientists"? Is there anything that is so compelling that would convert someone from flat earth geocentrism to globe earth heliocentrism? Even though those very people already know the standard globe indoctrination that every modern human receives? That is the key. We already know the current globe narrative and think differently and it is bizarre that people give pavlovian response to defend the globe even though they are refuting people who already know about the globe and have moved beyond it. Like COVID. Many people thought jabb good becuz science & experts say so. Some thought differently and were ostracized. Moral of story: think critically for yourself even if it's unpopular. Maybe thinking outside the box is a good thing...
I'm simply asking you what is holding the sun and earth in their orbits and trajectory. Seems the mainstream gravity answer has quite low odds of describing earth and sun happening to end up as we observe them. And I would think there is an up and down relative to the center of the "universe" in heliocentric model. There are also supposed pictures of the universe and one can use x y and z to determine up and down directions relative to reference point.
Words have meaning.
Why does it seem like that to you? Is it just a feelling or based on facts?
The center of the universe? What do you mean by that? Who has ever propoosed that there is such a thing?
There is no such thing. You are extremely uninformed. Where do you even get these ideas from?
Once again, a quick Google search reveals depictions, pictures, and even animations of the entire observable universe. For calling me uninformed, it is quite ironic that you don't know or are ignorant to what the modern "science" says. I recommend at least doing a Google search before calling someone names if you may be incorrect. So one can find the center of it and reference it for cardinal directions and "up" or "down" . Flat earther or globe earther , there is public domain "science" that gives everyone the same foundational indoctrination.
Do you even realize that you constantly move the goalposts? You claimed there were pictures of "the universe". There are no such pictures.
You claim that there is a "center of the universe". There is no such thing.
You are extremely ignorant about the subject. You half understand words and then make up a narrative around it out of your ignorance without even trying to find out what those words mean.
So, again:
There is no center of the universe.
There is no up and down in space.
Are you confusing universe and galaxy maybe? North and south are used to describe orientation in a galaxy.
Okay, what more do you have to add that hasn't been said by NASA and the government and "scientists"? Is there anything that is so compelling that would convert someone from flat earth geocentrism to globe earth heliocentrism? Even though those very people already know the standard globe indoctrination that every modern human receives? That is the key. We already know the current globe narrative and think differently and it is bizarre that people give pavlovian response to defend the globe even though they are refuting people who already know about the globe and have moved beyond it. Like COVID. Many people thought jabb good becuz science & experts say so. Some thought differently and were ostracized. Moral of story: think critically for yourself even if it's unpopular. Maybe thinking outside the box is a good thing...