All yiu get is lame excuses and deflections
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I will say that I have seen with my own eyes that proof that what we are being told is a lie. I know that the math of the world size doesn't work correctly. If that means it flat I could debate it, maybe it is just larger than they say. Something isn't right with what they are selling though.
There are times that you can see the sun and moon in the same sky and its obvious that the Sun's light is hitting the moon and yet you still can't see a full moon. That just doesn't work it what science is selling.
In the day shade is colder, but at night shade is warmer. Take a thermometer and check it out. Meaning the moon has a cooling effect. I don't know how that works with modern science either.
So, I know we are being lied to, but how far that goes we may never know in this life.