Nope. Not if you look at spend thats not classified as health care in other countries, but is in the US.
Simple example: All those admins that do random paperwork but dont see a patient? Thats not healthcare, its general administrative in the government. Boom, "cheaper" healthcare as reported to the populace on spending charts.
Theres hundreds of more things like this that arent counted as healthcare in other countries but is in the US because health care facilities have to recoup those costs instead of having a never ending slush fund available to them.
All you have to do is tear apart the UN reports that try to rationalize the spend as healthcare cost per person.
Can you imagine paying $15 for one Tylenol, $8 for a tissue or $50 for a tongue depressor?
If you have insurance, the companies bargain with the hospitals for better prices. Walk off the street barely above minimum wage with no insurance and your gonna get raped.
I noticed no stories about canada. Canada is a special sort of fucked. The government hates that the taxpayers have free healthcare so they are purposely under training, under funding, just straight up fucking good doctors.
I thought american healthcare was fucked. And the one girl at the beginning thinks its so cute that no one sues anyone. That works both ways. When people arent held liable to a minimum standard, people die, and shoulders are shrugged. No one cares, because no one is held liable.
In my case you know, poison me with freon, deny me medical care. Then on top of that they lie and cover the entire thing up. This is what they consider healthcare here? Its obvious they want people to die, only then will people be ok with paying twice for the same shitty subpar service. Once through taxes, then twice through insurance.
What the fuck is the point of free healthcare if people cant get it when they need it?
Dont even get me started on the mental care in canada, its fucking non existent. WCB telling me to see a psychologist. HAHA people who are fucking SUICIDAL cant even get the help they need unless they wait years. Fucking pathetic.
If you walk in off the street and dont have insurance, you arent seen. They will give you the location of a nearby "free clinic". The only place that will see you is the ER and even then, its not that price.
The $15 for tylenol is the rate they list as "retail". When your insurance "knocks it down" to $1, they then us that data to boast to companies to join their plan because they saved as a total average 50% (or whatever).
Now, lets say you fell and broke a hip and went to the ER and got treated without insurance. They send you a bill with these "retail rates" as they are contractually required to do (because the insurance companies want things to seem extremely expensive, remember). But then you call and go "I make $12 a month sucking quarters out of vending machines, lets setup a super low payment!" They will and are required to take $5/month forever and never collect on those bills. And, if you are savvy enough to complain about $15 for your pill, they'll take 30-50% off on the phone - usually without even the theater of talking to a manager.
This is like a store having a TV for $100, then raising it to $150 the 45 days before boxing day and then advertising the "33% discount" for the holiday when it's $99.99. The tv was never $150, except to a few idiots who bought on from November 15 to December 25.
And what does any of that have to do with the occluded costs of nonUS care?
By the way, if you actually had experience in US health care, youd know how easy it is to get white bread health professionals if you really care about that.
Everyone pays as much for heathcare. The difference is that the world hides the costs in their governments and Americans drop it on those that use it.
Nope. Healthcare in the US is much more expensive then anywhere else.
Nope. Not if you look at spend thats not classified as health care in other countries, but is in the US.
Simple example: All those admins that do random paperwork but dont see a patient? Thats not healthcare, its general administrative in the government. Boom, "cheaper" healthcare as reported to the populace on spending charts.
Theres hundreds of more things like this that arent counted as healthcare in other countries but is in the US because health care facilities have to recoup those costs instead of having a never ending slush fund available to them.
All you have to do is tear apart the UN reports that try to rationalize the spend as healthcare cost per person.
I find that hard to believe.
In other countries where the money is somewhat held accountable, I highly doubt they are paying 50$ for one tongue depressor.
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/hidden-hospital-costs/
If you have insurance, the companies bargain with the hospitals for better prices. Walk off the street barely above minimum wage with no insurance and your gonna get raped.
I noticed no stories about canada. Canada is a special sort of fucked. The government hates that the taxpayers have free healthcare so they are purposely under training, under funding, just straight up fucking good doctors.
I thought american healthcare was fucked. And the one girl at the beginning thinks its so cute that no one sues anyone. That works both ways. When people arent held liable to a minimum standard, people die, and shoulders are shrugged. No one cares, because no one is held liable.
In my case you know, poison me with freon, deny me medical care. Then on top of that they lie and cover the entire thing up. This is what they consider healthcare here? Its obvious they want people to die, only then will people be ok with paying twice for the same shitty subpar service. Once through taxes, then twice through insurance.
What the fuck is the point of free healthcare if people cant get it when they need it?
Dont even get me started on the mental care in canada, its fucking non existent. WCB telling me to see a psychologist. HAHA people who are fucking SUICIDAL cant even get the help they need unless they wait years. Fucking pathetic.
Those numbers are fake and no one pays them.
If you walk in off the street and dont have insurance, you arent seen. They will give you the location of a nearby "free clinic". The only place that will see you is the ER and even then, its not that price.
The $15 for tylenol is the rate they list as "retail". When your insurance "knocks it down" to $1, they then us that data to boast to companies to join their plan because they saved as a total average 50% (or whatever).
Now, lets say you fell and broke a hip and went to the ER and got treated without insurance. They send you a bill with these "retail rates" as they are contractually required to do (because the insurance companies want things to seem extremely expensive, remember). But then you call and go "I make $12 a month sucking quarters out of vending machines, lets setup a super low payment!" They will and are required to take $5/month forever and never collect on those bills. And, if you are savvy enough to complain about $15 for your pill, they'll take 30-50% off on the phone - usually without even the theater of talking to a manager.
This is like a store having a TV for $100, then raising it to $150 the 45 days before boxing day and then advertising the "33% discount" for the holiday when it's $99.99. The tv was never $150, except to a few idiots who bought on from November 15 to December 25.
What?
US "healthcare" is the worst in the world. That's why they get asians and indians as medical professionals.
And what does any of that have to do with the occluded costs of nonUS care?
By the way, if you actually had experience in US health care, youd know how easy it is to get white bread health professionals if you really care about that.