It is important for our purposes to be clear on definitions.
there are a great many definitions for “gravitation” available to choose from.
I am only aware of the correct one, which is that massive objects attract other massive objects relative to their mass. This is only a definition, and fits the definition of 'definition', whereas theories (e.g. Higgs, field mediation, etc) are proposed mechanisms.
If it existed, it would be capable of routinely doing things impossible [...]
Disregarding your qualifier at the end of this statement, the problem is that it does exactly this, and nobody knows why - fun fact. Another fun fact: gravity must act faster than the speed of light, as light takes 8.3 minutes to reach us, and it was proven decades ago that orbiting systems are unstable beyond just a couple epochs if the bodies orbit 'afterimages' of each other (i.e. if you make the systems obey the 'speed limit').
I am gathering that you've clued into the fact that gravitation does in fact problems, but aren't understanding the actual problems, nor their implications, and thus went into left field.
Thus the mystery of why 0 progress has been made on understanding this magical pseudo-force over 3+ centuries and counting is solved. It doesn’t exist to discover or experimentally validate.
Again, you've clued into a problem, but drew conclusions too early. You are right that there has been no significant progress, but it isn't just gravity. Every major physics-related field has had no significant progress. We still know nothing more about electricity, light, magnetism, any of the other major forces, radioactivity, etc, and there are a number of major problems still in chemistry as well. If your conclusions were correctly drawn, then the rest of the disciplines would be empty as well, but we know they are not - instead, they have been deliberately (((stifled))). Ask for more if interested.
Life should get in the way! No pardons ought be required!
It is important for our purposes to be clear on definitions.
Agreed, which is why i have been very explicit and straightforward about them. If you need any clarification on them, please ask!
I am only aware of the correct one
Lol, if only it were so simple ;)
which is that massive objects attract other massive objects relative to their mass
That is the newtonian definition yes, from the “law” of universal gravitation. It has generally not been used for 70+ years. Modern physicists do not think there is any attraction between objects, nor define gravitation that way.
the problem is that it does exactly this, and nobody knows why
So it is believed! But belief has no place in knowledge, least of all science. It is known as “bias” and is a 4 letter word ;)
gravity must act faster than the speed of light
Indeed, one of the many impossible things it must do. If it were real, that is!
Because it isn’t real, it doesn’t have to do any of those things - and doesn’t.
but aren't understanding the actual problems
I understand many of them pretty well, but i could always learn more!
instead, they have been deliberately (((stifled))). Ask for more if interested.
In general i think we are in agreement on this. I am very much asking for more, and would like to subscribe to the newsletter!
Some of what we are discussing has relevance to what i call aether-mcarthyism, an example of the “stifling” above. No one ever seems to consider the military / national security significance of physics ;)
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It is important for our purposes to be clear on definitions.
I am only aware of the correct one, which is that massive objects attract other massive objects relative to their mass. This is only a definition, and fits the definition of 'definition', whereas theories (e.g. Higgs, field mediation, etc) are proposed mechanisms.
Disregarding your qualifier at the end of this statement, the problem is that it does exactly this, and nobody knows why - fun fact. Another fun fact: gravity must act faster than the speed of light, as light takes 8.3 minutes to reach us, and it was proven decades ago that orbiting systems are unstable beyond just a couple epochs if the bodies orbit 'afterimages' of each other (i.e. if you make the systems obey the 'speed limit').
I am gathering that you've clued into the fact that gravitation does in fact problems, but aren't understanding the actual problems, nor their implications, and thus went into left field.
Again, you've clued into a problem, but drew conclusions too early. You are right that there has been no significant progress, but it isn't just gravity. Every major physics-related field has had no significant progress. We still know nothing more about electricity, light, magnetism, any of the other major forces, radioactivity, etc, and there are a number of major problems still in chemistry as well. If your conclusions were correctly drawn, then the rest of the disciplines would be empty as well, but we know they are not - instead, they have been deliberately (((stifled))). Ask for more if interested.
Life should get in the way! No pardons ought be required!
Agreed, which is why i have been very explicit and straightforward about them. If you need any clarification on them, please ask!
Lol, if only it were so simple ;)
That is the newtonian definition yes, from the “law” of universal gravitation. It has generally not been used for 70+ years. Modern physicists do not think there is any attraction between objects, nor define gravitation that way.
So it is believed! But belief has no place in knowledge, least of all science. It is known as “bias” and is a 4 letter word ;)
Indeed, one of the many impossible things it must do. If it were real, that is!
Because it isn’t real, it doesn’t have to do any of those things - and doesn’t.
I understand many of them pretty well, but i could always learn more!
In general i think we are in agreement on this. I am very much asking for more, and would like to subscribe to the newsletter!
Some of what we are discussing has relevance to what i call aether-mcarthyism, an example of the “stifling” above. No one ever seems to consider the military / national security significance of physics ;)