When I flew from Portland OR to Amsterdam, the route went up through canada north of Hudson Bay, over greenland, iceland, and Scotland. And approaching Amsterdam from the north. This was a straight line on a gleason map.
Also if you try to fly between Perth AU and Buenos Aires, they shortest route would be over the middle of Antarctica (7800 miles). Look at what flights they offer when you try to book it, and see if the route makes more sense on a gleason map or a globe. All the flights between South America and Australia makes no sense on a globe because they are actually at opposite ends of a flat earth.
So when globe theorists argue this point with you, what do they say? That flying over Antarctica is dangerous or the atmosphere is too windy or something?
Almost none of them know of the Antarctic treaty which would make commercial flights impossible without the approval of international bureaucracy (multiple organizations). However we fly in the north polar circle so I don't see why weather or environmental concerns should be so much more of a problem in the south polar circle. Commercial jets also commonly fly in -40 to -60 degrees, im not sure what the exact limit is, but I'd like to see a aeronautical engineer explain why antartica is mechanically impossible to fly over.
I've seen a few people show me flights that allegedly skim the coast of Antarctica. Heavy investigation has gone into these flight which make the results untrustworthy. Such as the plane going off global tracking with an assumed position nearly the entire journey. Flights being canceled or unbookable as if they were simply for perception. There are some planes with long range capability that may be able to fake it by going much faster than the average commercial jet and using earth's natural jet stream wind over the ocean north of Antarctica.
Is that what most flat earthers present as their map?
It looks like an extremely long distance from L.A. to Hong Kong if traveling west.
Also, according to that map, the fastest way to get to Europe would always be to fly over the North Pole.
When I flew from Portland OR to Amsterdam, the route went up through canada north of Hudson Bay, over greenland, iceland, and Scotland. And approaching Amsterdam from the north. This was a straight line on a gleason map.
Also if you try to fly between Perth AU and Buenos Aires, they shortest route would be over the middle of Antarctica (7800 miles). Look at what flights they offer when you try to book it, and see if the route makes more sense on a gleason map or a globe. All the flights between South America and Australia makes no sense on a globe because they are actually at opposite ends of a flat earth.
So when globe theorists argue this point with you, what do they say? That flying over Antarctica is dangerous or the atmosphere is too windy or something?
Almost none of them know of the Antarctic treaty which would make commercial flights impossible without the approval of international bureaucracy (multiple organizations). However we fly in the north polar circle so I don't see why weather or environmental concerns should be so much more of a problem in the south polar circle. Commercial jets also commonly fly in -40 to -60 degrees, im not sure what the exact limit is, but I'd like to see a aeronautical engineer explain why antartica is mechanically impossible to fly over.
I've seen a few people show me flights that allegedly skim the coast of Antarctica. Heavy investigation has gone into these flight which make the results untrustworthy. Such as the plane going off global tracking with an assumed position nearly the entire journey. Flights being canceled or unbookable as if they were simply for perception. There are some planes with long range capability that may be able to fake it by going much faster than the average commercial jet and using earth's natural jet stream wind over the ocean north of Antarctica.
This guy often covers how airplane logistics prove flat earth. https://youtu.be/jcA3tEr5fa0