Ah yes, I point out the holes in your argument so I must worship the government, that checks out...
As for the ocean, yes, it curves. You "can't see it" because you are right beside it so it barely registers.
Here's a little experiment to try at home: take a tennis ball and a soccer ball.
Hold the tennis ball so that the top is level with your eye and about meter (3ft) away. Notice the curve?
Now do the same with the soccer ball. Notice the different curve? Does it seem more flat or more round than the smaller sphere?
Now do the same with the earth. It is larger than either ball by a ridiculous amount. Therefore, the curve you observe is more flat by a ridiculous amount. In fact, it appears so flat that some people can't tell the difference between the curve and a flat line.
But it's just matter of perspective. If you hold the soccer ball further away than the tennis ball, they appear to have the same curve. By the exact same token, if you get far enough away from the earth, it will also have the same curve.
Now, I'll admit that it's hard to get far enough away to see the curve of the earth, but that's not really relevant here. What is relevant is that I just offered a completely reasonable explanation of what you observed, using the globe model.
I didn't reference government data, potentially doctored photos, or even some random video. Nothing I said need be taken on faith (unless you want to argue the shape of sports balls). I'm not even (technically) relying on math that would need to be proven. I've given you a simple, falsifiable, experiment whose conclusion can be extended to predict something neither of us has directly observed (unless you've been to space). If you can show that the curve of the tennis ball appears flatter than (or the same as) the soccer ball at the same distance, I'll admit I can't explain your observation.
Otherwise, how about you admit that the globe model adequately explains your observation?
I see what you are saying. I don't know the shape of the earth. I would argue many globe believers haven't seen it with their own eyes. So they are blindly believing the globe model (heliocentrism). So who is more wrong? Who is more right?
Ah yes, I point out the holes in your argument so I must worship the government, that checks out...
As for the ocean, yes, it curves. You "can't see it" because you are right beside it so it barely registers.
Here's a little experiment to try at home: take a tennis ball and a soccer ball.
Hold the tennis ball so that the top is level with your eye and about meter (3ft) away. Notice the curve?
Now do the same with the soccer ball. Notice the different curve? Does it seem more flat or more round than the smaller sphere?
Now do the same with the earth. It is larger than either ball by a ridiculous amount. Therefore, the curve you observe is more flat by a ridiculous amount. In fact, it appears so flat that some people can't tell the difference between the curve and a flat line.
But it's just matter of perspective. If you hold the soccer ball further away than the tennis ball, they appear to have the same curve. By the exact same token, if you get far enough away from the earth, it will also have the same curve.
Now, I'll admit that it's hard to get far enough away to see the curve of the earth, but that's not really relevant here. What is relevant is that I just offered a completely reasonable explanation of what you observed, using the globe model.
I didn't reference government data, potentially doctored photos, or even some random video. Nothing I said need be taken on faith (unless you want to argue the shape of sports balls). I'm not even (technically) relying on math that would need to be proven. I've given you a simple, falsifiable, experiment whose conclusion can be extended to predict something neither of us has directly observed (unless you've been to space). If you can show that the curve of the tennis ball appears flatter than (or the same as) the soccer ball at the same distance, I'll admit I can't explain your observation.
Otherwise, how about you admit that the globe model adequately explains your observation?
I see what you are saying. I don't know the shape of the earth. I would argue many globe believers haven't seen it with their own eyes. So they are blindly believing the globe model (heliocentrism). So who is more wrong? Who is more right?