Sedevacantism is a doctrinal position within traditionalist Catholicism, which holds that the present occupier of the Holy See is not a valid pope due to the pope's espousal of one or more heresies and that therefore, for lack of a valid pope, the See of Rome is vacant.
I would agree with that. What is their position on Latin Mass? Was the last true pope before Vatican II?
The last true pope was Pope Pius XII who died in 1958. Everyone from 1958 on has been an Antipope and that includes John XXIII (1958-1963), Paul VI (1963-1978), John Paul I (1978), John Paul II (1978-2005), Benedict XVI (2005-2013), and Francis I (2013-current).
In that Third Secret of Fatima documentary I linked above it goes over what happened in the Papal Enclave in 1958 with the election of a new Pope. Pope Pius XII did not publicly teach heresies and he was a validly elected Pope. Antipope John XXIII, who became "Pope" in 1958 when Pius XII died was a Freemason and was a heretic prior to his elevation to the Papacy. He opened The Second Vatican Council in 1962 (it ran until 1965) and the entire Catholic religion was changed. Lots of doctrinal matters, major teachings, salvation dogma, most sacraments, ordinations of Priests, etc. This was prophesied to happen. Just watch that "Third Secret of Fatima" documentary above it really explains a lot. It's 2.5 hours but you can get the gist of where the documentary is going in the first 10-15 minutes. The documentary is from 2013, but it is not outdated and is the best documentary on the topic of Our Lady of Fatima.
There was a recent debate on Sedevacantism that recently took place. I would recommend watching it. There are many "Catholics" that claim Sedevacantism is a heresy and is not actually Catholicism. You have to devote a lot of time to fully understand everything. I recommend you research all of this stuff yourself. vaticancatholic.com is the best resource for this. Tons of articles, very in-depth, videos, books, and podcasts going back decades. The Brothers that run that website are absolute scholars. If you look them up on Wikipedia you will find that they are Holocaust deniers. They have an article about that on their website.
There are basically 3 types of "Catholics." If you go on Wikipedia you will see that there are over 1 billion "Catholics" worldwide. Almost all of these people are those that follow and accept the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965) and they attend the "Novus Ordo Mass" which was promulgated in 1969. This is probably 96-99+% of "Catholics" worldwide. E. Michael Jones attends a Novus Ordo Mass and accepts Vatican II. LifeSite News is also in this group. Most people you see that claim to be "Catholic" are in this group.
The second group is the Latin Mass "Catholics." I, and other sedevacantists, refer to these people as "false traditionalists." This group ranges a lot in ideology. Groups would include SSPX, people like Dr. Taylor Marshall, various Latin Masses offered at Novus Ordo Parishes, Bp. Richard Williamson, FSSP, and others. This group is generally critical of Vatican II and might disagree with certain aspects of it, but overall they have to hang onto Vatican II because they are going to "Masses" with Vatican II ordained "Priests" (New Rite of Ordination of Paul VI in 1968) so they can't really reject Vatican II completely. There are probably millions of people like this worldwide. Not sure how many are in the United States. Virtually all "Latin Masses" in the United States are filled with people like this. Sedevacantist's consider all of these people to be heretics because they accept Vatican II and it's Antipopes despite attending the Latin Mass.
The smallest group is Sedevacantist Catholics who are best represented by Most Holy Family Monastery (vaticancatholic.com), CMRI, Novus Ordo Watch, SSPV, and a few others. CMRI has Latin Masses with Priests who were ordained in the traditional rite of ordination. The Vatican II rite of ordination was invalid, so 99.9% of "Catholic Priests" who were ordained after 1968 are actually not Priests because they are invalidly ordained. It might be difficult to find a validly ordained Priest depending on where you live. This is an article on the New Rite of Ordination. Unfortunately most Latin Masses in the United States are done by "Priests" ordained in this New Rite. So virtually all Latin Masses are invalid: https://vaticancatholic.com/new-rite-of-ordination-invalid/
Also nice username. There's a few shills on here promoting the black Israelite and Jesus was black farce. They don't shut up even when confronted with direct sources, I think it's the new disinformation campaign.
I never made the gab migration so there's a lot I missed. I'm going to check out those links, thank you. Robert Sepher introduced me to the idea but the Bible supports the idea best through the declarations the Lord made Himself. "Through your offspring all the nations of the earth will be blessed" (Genesis 12:3) Who explored the far corners of the Earth and brought their faith with them? Who shared the Light of the World with the pagans, who builds infrastructure and shares technologies that improve quality of life? Just wanted to share my thinking before I looked at your evidence.
Yeah I view the Scythian's as one of the most covered up things of history. Mainly because I guess the jews don't want us to know our origins and how the bulk of Europeans descend from Scythian's. And then also the Scythian origins being in ancient Israel. I learned a lot of this stuff from Robert Sepehr too. He is jewish and satanic, not sure if you know the full extent of that, but he has some absolutely amazing videos on post-flood migrations of people.
Yeah the Christian Identity theology is interesting. That Genesis 12:3 prophecy was definitely fulfilled. Also there was another prophecy about Israelites going by Isaac (Sacae, Sac's Sons, Saxon, etc.), so that's interesting too. I mostly look at just the historical evidence purely though because the Christian Identity theology gets a little wacky at times and very heretical in certain regards. So my Catholicism just overrides the theological heresies of Christian Identity. But yeah the history is all mostly correct when you verify everything.
Antipope Benedict was evil and he is in Hell now.
https://vaticancatholic.com/benedict-xvi-dies-at-95/
https://vaticancatholic.com/anti-pope-benedict-xvi/
https://vaticancatholic.com/this-video-shows-how-benedict-xvi-was-mentioned-in-biblical-prophecy/
Become Sedevacantist Catholic. This documentary explains what has happened with Catholicism in the 20th century: https://vaticancatholic.com/third-secret-of-fatima/
I would agree with that. What is their position on Latin Mass? Was the last true pope before Vatican II?
The last true pope was Pope Pius XII who died in 1958. Everyone from 1958 on has been an Antipope and that includes John XXIII (1958-1963), Paul VI (1963-1978), John Paul I (1978), John Paul II (1978-2005), Benedict XVI (2005-2013), and Francis I (2013-current).
So we have been almost 65 years without a Pope. Also it is noteworthy to mention that there have been MANY Antipopes throughout history: https://vaticancatholic.com/list-of-antipopes-in-history/
In that Third Secret of Fatima documentary I linked above it goes over what happened in the Papal Enclave in 1958 with the election of a new Pope. Pope Pius XII did not publicly teach heresies and he was a validly elected Pope. Antipope John XXIII, who became "Pope" in 1958 when Pius XII died was a Freemason and was a heretic prior to his elevation to the Papacy. He opened The Second Vatican Council in 1962 (it ran until 1965) and the entire Catholic religion was changed. Lots of doctrinal matters, major teachings, salvation dogma, most sacraments, ordinations of Priests, etc. This was prophesied to happen. Just watch that "Third Secret of Fatima" documentary above it really explains a lot. It's 2.5 hours but you can get the gist of where the documentary is going in the first 10-15 minutes. The documentary is from 2013, but it is not outdated and is the best documentary on the topic of Our Lady of Fatima.
There was a recent debate on Sedevacantism that recently took place. I would recommend watching it. There are many "Catholics" that claim Sedevacantism is a heresy and is not actually Catholicism. You have to devote a lot of time to fully understand everything. I recommend you research all of this stuff yourself. vaticancatholic.com is the best resource for this. Tons of articles, very in-depth, videos, books, and podcasts going back decades. The Brothers that run that website are absolute scholars. If you look them up on Wikipedia you will find that they are Holocaust deniers. They have an article about that on their website.
Sedevacantism Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIauJB2_y1c
There are basically 3 types of "Catholics." If you go on Wikipedia you will see that there are over 1 billion "Catholics" worldwide. Almost all of these people are those that follow and accept the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965) and they attend the "Novus Ordo Mass" which was promulgated in 1969. This is probably 96-99+% of "Catholics" worldwide. E. Michael Jones attends a Novus Ordo Mass and accepts Vatican II. LifeSite News is also in this group. Most people you see that claim to be "Catholic" are in this group.
The second group is the Latin Mass "Catholics." I, and other sedevacantists, refer to these people as "false traditionalists." This group ranges a lot in ideology. Groups would include SSPX, people like Dr. Taylor Marshall, various Latin Masses offered at Novus Ordo Parishes, Bp. Richard Williamson, FSSP, and others. This group is generally critical of Vatican II and might disagree with certain aspects of it, but overall they have to hang onto Vatican II because they are going to "Masses" with Vatican II ordained "Priests" (New Rite of Ordination of Paul VI in 1968) so they can't really reject Vatican II completely. There are probably millions of people like this worldwide. Not sure how many are in the United States. Virtually all "Latin Masses" in the United States are filled with people like this. Sedevacantist's consider all of these people to be heretics because they accept Vatican II and it's Antipopes despite attending the Latin Mass.
The smallest group is Sedevacantist Catholics who are best represented by Most Holy Family Monastery (vaticancatholic.com), CMRI, Novus Ordo Watch, SSPV, and a few others. CMRI has Latin Masses with Priests who were ordained in the traditional rite of ordination. The Vatican II rite of ordination was invalid, so 99.9% of "Catholic Priests" who were ordained after 1968 are actually not Priests because they are invalidly ordained. It might be difficult to find a validly ordained Priest depending on where you live. This is an article on the New Rite of Ordination. Unfortunately most Latin Masses in the United States are done by "Priests" ordained in this New Rite. So virtually all Latin Masses are invalid: https://vaticancatholic.com/new-rite-of-ordination-invalid/
Also nice username. There's a few shills on here promoting the black Israelite and Jesus was black farce. They don't shut up even when confronted with direct sources, I think it's the new disinformation campaign.
Thanks. Not sure if you know who Adam Green (Know More News) is. You should read this thread I had on Gab: https://gab.com/ScythianIsraelite/posts/109527611750784357
I never made the gab migration so there's a lot I missed. I'm going to check out those links, thank you. Robert Sepher introduced me to the idea but the Bible supports the idea best through the declarations the Lord made Himself. "Through your offspring all the nations of the earth will be blessed" (Genesis 12:3) Who explored the far corners of the Earth and brought their faith with them? Who shared the Light of the World with the pagans, who builds infrastructure and shares technologies that improve quality of life? Just wanted to share my thinking before I looked at your evidence.
Yeah I view the Scythian's as one of the most covered up things of history. Mainly because I guess the jews don't want us to know our origins and how the bulk of Europeans descend from Scythian's. And then also the Scythian origins being in ancient Israel. I learned a lot of this stuff from Robert Sepehr too. He is jewish and satanic, not sure if you know the full extent of that, but he has some absolutely amazing videos on post-flood migrations of people.
Yeah the Christian Identity theology is interesting. That Genesis 12:3 prophecy was definitely fulfilled. Also there was another prophecy about Israelites going by Isaac (Sacae, Sac's Sons, Saxon, etc.), so that's interesting too. I mostly look at just the historical evidence purely though because the Christian Identity theology gets a little wacky at times and very heretical in certain regards. So my Catholicism just overrides the theological heresies of Christian Identity. But yeah the history is all mostly correct when you verify everything.