They actually do believe that the Messiah will be a worldly leader - a Caesar Augustus type world emperor - and Catholic teaching is that this "messiah" will actually be the Antichrist. He will be the "King of the Jews" and proclaim himself the second Christ, but will focus on leading all peoples into worldly things. Things will get so bad that the Jews will collectively realize they made a BIG MISTAKE and then, as a group, convert into Christianity right before the Second Coming of Christ.
This is interesting. Do you have some citations or references that lead you to believe this? Any mention of this in Revelation that corroborates this prophecy?
Eastern Heterodoxy is in constant schism, has constant excommunications, and has weird morally relativistic standards like 3 divorces is fine and contraception is okay, amongst other things. Not to mention, I am born of Western European blood, and all the Eastern Churches are separated based upon ethnicity. So what am I? Greek? Russian? Something else? It's all a huge clustermuck... No thanks! We may have heretics in the Catholic Church hierarchy, but at least the official teachings are what Christians have believed since the First Century!
Excommunications are biblical, let’s keep that going. I don’t know where you’re getting 3 divorces from but that’s wrong just to address it. Contraception is more tolerated among Roman Catholics than EO, yes some fringe accept contraception on both sides but they are minorities. Disagreements in the church? Yeah have you read the Bible that happens. That’s why church issues are settled synodally, like in the Bible.
We may have heretics in the Catholic Church hierarchy, but at least the official teachings are what Christians have believed since the First Century!
Papal infallibility, purgatory, unam sanctam, the immaculate conception of Mary, all aren’t found in the first century of the church.
There’s a reason why the papacy had to use forged documents to establish their rule. The Vatican admits it used false documents.
Your Vatican says that the Eastern Orthodox Church has the valid sacraments, and has apostolic succession. Even Rome can’t object to the fact that EO has held fast to the traditions of the apostles.
At the end of the day, the pope is a false authority, wearing a yamulka, eating unleavened bread Eucharist, with Rothschilds and the CIA running his money. It’s not looking great for your “first century” fantasy. Was Vatican 1 or Vatican 2 in the first century?
First among equals is the how the ecumenical councils agreed upon. The East and West agreed upon that in the early days of the church. Orthodox still would hold Rome as first among equals if Rome came back to the faith. Bishops with cannonical privileges is way different than having an infallible pope.
The bishop of Rome is important but not infallible.
Except many Eastern bishops ran to Rome for help when they argued with each other...
That’s how you handle synodal issues. You can appeal to other jurisdictions and they kinda act as an appellate court.
Rome would be first among equals, if they didn’t change so much from the early church. Papal infallibility is too far. We just have the different opinion perhaps. The church synodal church agreements can be the inspired direction of the Holy Spirit. We have seen time and time again the wildest popes of infamy, pirate pope, popes for sale, pope underground tunnels to a brothel, the infallibility is too much.
You just don't understand the dogma of papal infallibility. Yeah, we have had horrible popes. Yeah, we have even had popes that taught heresy. Papal infallibility only applies in very specific situations. Actually, the situation it applies to the most is when the Pope, acting as first amongst equals, is settling disputes in the Church once and for all. Look at the dogma of the Immaculate Conception - Christians, even Saints, were on both sides of that issue and debated it for centuries. A Pope finally settled it, once in for all. With synodal issues, if you have 2 camps, the Pope can settle that. Patriarch Barthomew isn't first amongst equals, so he doesn't have the power to do this. This is why the Eastern Orthodox needs to come back in communion with Rome.
I have no idea. I honestly don't care about the Eastern Heterodox.
There have been wayyyy more schisms than that if you study the history of Christendom. My point is that the Eastern Heterodox church is not as great of an alternative to Catholicism as they try to make you believe. I honestly lost a lot of respect for them after a lot of them attacked me online because of my super-orthodox Christian views...
Understood. I don't know much about the "American Orthodox Church" to be frank. But I do know enough about Church ecclesiology and history to know that I am not really interested in taking a "deep dive" into Eastern Heterodoxy. I've already written them off. But, I guess if it means anything, I will concede that apparently there is now an American ethnic church.
So the catholic church that is founded by Jews and romans says what? And I am supposed to care? Pay my taxes? Turn the other cheek? Wait 2 more weeks? Manifest the "End times" Yea sorry.....both Religions are totally fucked up and pedaristic.....
There is more evidence of a historical Jesus then there even was of historical figures like Alexander the Great. Even skeptical atheist researchers, like Bart Ehrman, acknowledge the historical existence of Jesus.
I found the site to have some good info. I bookmarked it. It is good to utilize passages in the bible to condemn the Jews since so many Jew lovers try to use bible to cuck to them.
I dont believe the Bible.........literally less than 2%. Just my opinion on it :D. His-Story was written by the victors. And the kings in charge. changed by the churches. Re written figures to be the "saviours".
Well the site the op linked does have good quotes that aren't from the Bible. Perhaps they reference the bible when describing the curse of the jews.
I agree with your skepticism of history. Beyond lies about WWII, I should explore what other mainstream historical narratives might be false. There's several thousand years of history to re-evaluate and less and less clues as time goes on.
Most sexual assault of minors occurs on government property. Schools, universities, government parks, government housing, government juvenile detentions, government endorsed human trafficking, etc.
Yes, they do. They are cursed in that they love worldly things instead of God, and will pay for this in Hell.
Over half the world Jew population followed a false messiah named Sabbatai Zevi in 1666. He told them to love worldly things.
They actually do believe that the Messiah will be a worldly leader - a Caesar Augustus type world emperor - and Catholic teaching is that this "messiah" will actually be the Antichrist. He will be the "King of the Jews" and proclaim himself the second Christ, but will focus on leading all peoples into worldly things. Things will get so bad that the Jews will collectively realize they made a BIG MISTAKE and then, as a group, convert into Christianity right before the Second Coming of Christ.
This is interesting. Do you have some citations or references that lead you to believe this? Any mention of this in Revelation that corroborates this prophecy?
It's supposed to come from this passage:
"Let Dan be a snake in the way, a serpent in the path, that biteth the horse's heels that his rider may fall backward." -Genesis 49:17
It's not Dogma, but it is a consistent belief amongst Saints that this refers to the Antichrist, who will be born of the tribe of Dan.
Look at these to get you started:
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01559a.htm
https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-antichrist
Have you ever considered the same church, the same sacraments done without the pope or the Rothschild Jewish papal bankers? Come home to orthodoxy.
Eastern Heterodoxy is in constant schism, has constant excommunications, and has weird morally relativistic standards like 3 divorces is fine and contraception is okay, amongst other things. Not to mention, I am born of Western European blood, and all the Eastern Churches are separated based upon ethnicity. So what am I? Greek? Russian? Something else? It's all a huge clustermuck... No thanks! We may have heretics in the Catholic Church hierarchy, but at least the official teachings are what Christians have believed since the First Century!
Excommunications are biblical, let’s keep that going. I don’t know where you’re getting 3 divorces from but that’s wrong just to address it. Contraception is more tolerated among Roman Catholics than EO, yes some fringe accept contraception on both sides but they are minorities. Disagreements in the church? Yeah have you read the Bible that happens. That’s why church issues are settled synodally, like in the Bible.
Papal infallibility, purgatory, unam sanctam, the immaculate conception of Mary, all aren’t found in the first century of the church.
There’s a reason why the papacy had to use forged documents to establish their rule. The Vatican admits it used false documents.
Your Vatican says that the Eastern Orthodox Church has the valid sacraments, and has apostolic succession. Even Rome can’t object to the fact that EO has held fast to the traditions of the apostles.
At the end of the day, the pope is a false authority, wearing a yamulka, eating unleavened bread Eucharist, with Rothschilds and the CIA running his money. It’s not looking great for your “first century” fantasy. Was Vatican 1 or Vatican 2 in the first century?
Even the Church Fathers the Eastern Heterodox venerate knew the Pope was the supreme ruler of the Church:
https://thecatholicstate.com/papal-supremacy-is-proven-by-the-bible-and-early-church/
First among equals is the how the ecumenical councils agreed upon. The East and West agreed upon that in the early days of the church. Orthodox still would hold Rome as first among equals if Rome came back to the faith. Bishops with cannonical privileges is way different than having an infallible pope.
The bishop of Rome is important but not infallible.
Except many Eastern bishops ran to Rome for help when they argued with each other...
And you say the Pope is "important" but you reject being in communion with him... Non-sequitur.
That’s how you handle synodal issues. You can appeal to other jurisdictions and they kinda act as an appellate court.
Rome would be first among equals, if they didn’t change so much from the early church. Papal infallibility is too far. We just have the different opinion perhaps. The church synodal church agreements can be the inspired direction of the Holy Spirit. We have seen time and time again the wildest popes of infamy, pirate pope, popes for sale, pope underground tunnels to a brothel, the infallibility is too much.
You just don't understand the dogma of papal infallibility. Yeah, we have had horrible popes. Yeah, we have even had popes that taught heresy. Papal infallibility only applies in very specific situations. Actually, the situation it applies to the most is when the Pope, acting as first amongst equals, is settling disputes in the Church once and for all. Look at the dogma of the Immaculate Conception - Christians, even Saints, were on both sides of that issue and debated it for centuries. A Pope finally settled it, once in for all. With synodal issues, if you have 2 camps, the Pope can settle that. Patriarch Barthomew isn't first amongst equals, so he doesn't have the power to do this. This is why the Eastern Orthodox needs to come back in communion with Rome.
You're welcome!
There were small groups that broke off before then, but they were very small and rather insignificant, to be honest. Read the article I sent you.
St Paul on the Jews. LOL Jew badmouthing Jews
Like Adolf Hitler (Jew) badmouthing Jews.
Same shit. Different century
So the catholic church that is founded by Jews and romans says what? And I am supposed to care? Pay my taxes? Turn the other cheek? Wait 2 more weeks? Manifest the "End times" Yea sorry.....both Religions are totally fucked up and pedaristic.....
Geez... For a group of people into conspiracy theories, and likely skeptical of what the mainstream media says, you sure don't do your homework...
https://thecatholicstate.com/the-mainstream-media-is-biased-against-catholics/#The_Media_Overstates_The_Clergy_Abuse_Problem
Says the guy who believed there was a Jesus? Cmon man really? You are swallowing the FIRST propaganda in his----story. hook line and sinker.
There is more evidence of a historical Jesus then there even was of historical figures like Alexander the Great. Even skeptical atheist researchers, like Bart Ehrman, acknowledge the historical existence of Jesus.
I found the site to have some good info. I bookmarked it. It is good to utilize passages in the bible to condemn the Jews since so many Jew lovers try to use bible to cuck to them.
I dont believe the Bible.........literally less than 2%. Just my opinion on it :D. His-Story was written by the victors. And the kings in charge. changed by the churches. Re written figures to be the "saviours".
Well the site the op linked does have good quotes that aren't from the Bible. Perhaps they reference the bible when describing the curse of the jews.
I agree with your skepticism of history. Beyond lies about WWII, I should explore what other mainstream historical narratives might be false. There's several thousand years of history to re-evaluate and less and less clues as time goes on.
GTFO with this fucking pedo cult.
Most sexual assault of minors occurs on government property. Schools, universities, government parks, government housing, government juvenile detentions, government endorsed human trafficking, etc.
So that somehow absolves your pedo cult?
I'm not a jew. Therefore I am not in a pedo cult.
Go talk to the Weinsteins and Epsteins and Woody Allens and Yoel Roths
All Abrahamic religions are pedo cults.
Just more Jewish Mainstream Media lies:
https://thecatholicstate.com/the-mainstream-media-is-biased-against-catholics/#The_Media_Overstates_The_Clergy_Abuse_Problem
How does it feel to support a satanic pedo cult?