Some speculate that there is no southern pole star, like polaris in the north; and all stars rotate clockwise around polaris (including in the southern “hemisphere”)
Some speculate that the two ostensible rotations in the sky exist as we see them, and the view that they must be caused by a spherical rotating earth is merely mythology.
Some speculate that the motions are influenced/distorted by the firmament (aka dome) that covers the world.
In general, i think it is unscientific and silly to look the literal opposite direction of the earth to determine its shape. IF the earth is flat, then all motions of the lights in the sky are obviously the same as we see them now!
You might want to ask questions like this over on flatearthresearch as well if you are looking for more answers.
In terms of the scientific method - only hypothesis generation.
Record observations, form a hypothesis, and then test it. You know, science stuff.
That’s the fundamental trouble with most all of astronomy. You only ever have the first 2 steps. The “test”, which in science is known as an experiment, is (at least currently and for all of history) impossible. This is the reason that astronomy is largely pseudoscience/mythology/religion misrepresented as science.
Are you sure you know how the scientific method works?
Yes, and more importantly how it doesn’t work.
Most reduced, the basic process is
Observe phenomena
Hypothesize the cause of the phenomena
Validate/invalidate (ideally) the hypothesis by rigorous experiment which establishes a causal link between the hypothesized cause (dv) and the hypothesized effect (iv).
Step 3 is essentially not done at all in astronomy. Fundamentally this is why astronomy is largely nonsense. Speculation built on millennia of it.
Natural law (simply measuring/recording “what is”, not determining why or how) is still a part of science however, and so astronomy is scientific in that regard.
There are a few ideas i’ve encountered about it :
In general, i think it is unscientific and silly to look the literal opposite direction of the earth to determine its shape. IF the earth is flat, then all motions of the lights in the sky are obviously the same as we see them now!
You might want to ask questions like this over on flatearthresearch as well if you are looking for more answers.
Well, what's the use in speculation? Record observations, form a hypothesis, and then test it.
You know, science stuff.
No, Flat Earthers never do that.
Do dat. Then stare into the abyss that is your soul.
In terms of the scientific method - only hypothesis generation.
That’s the fundamental trouble with most all of astronomy. You only ever have the first 2 steps. The “test”, which in science is known as an experiment, is (at least currently and for all of history) impossible. This is the reason that astronomy is largely pseudoscience/mythology/religion misrepresented as science.
Not at all. Astronomical scientific theories are being tested, otherwise they wouldn't be scientific theories.
Are you sure you know how the scientific method works?
Not by experiment, no.
Precisely.
Yes, and more importantly how it doesn’t work.
Most reduced, the basic process is
Step 3 is essentially not done at all in astronomy. Fundamentally this is why astronomy is largely nonsense. Speculation built on millennia of it.
Natural law (simply measuring/recording “what is”, not determining why or how) is still a part of science however, and so astronomy is scientific in that regard.