Just a friendly reminder that the bible makes it candidly clear that evil principalities are being allowed to rule over the world right now, that things will get extremely bad (WAY worse than they are now), and then a final battle will happen. To each their own discussing how they feel about the plan but that IS the plan per the bible. The plan is NOT that the evil principalities will be stopped by man or God before they take over the world and do a bunch of horrific shit everywhere.
Where does it say that.. Please Dont give me Ephesians 'For we wrestle not' .. I have asked this before on other boards before I got banned from everywhere and the same picture came into focus.. Christianity and Satanism are one.. Jesus is Lucifer , Lucifer is Jesus.. Look at how 'Christians have reacted in here' Hopeless GIVE INTO EVIL wait for GOD..
Israel had been conquered and oppressed by a foreign king, who had a general named Sisera. A prophet of God told one of the judges of Israel to fight against Sisera. The judge won the battle and Sisera fled, hiding in a random woman’s tent. This random woman pretended to take him in and hide him from the Israelites, the after Sisera fell asleep, she drove a tent stake through his head.
A PROPHET OF GOD .. Well, who are the current 'Propehts of GOD' and what are they advising? Because THINGS ARE NOT GETTING BETTER.. Food availability is direct threat to the point WE NEED TO SEE THIS AS A THREAT requiring KINETIC RESOLVE NOW! .. Who is calling for this?? Nobody..
So in your logic.. What do you suggest the people of America do right now? Because I know the answer and it is why We are taxed, people raped and ripped stripped and ruined. .. So I know what your answer will be.. My advice to you turn off all the clickbait conspiraPorn online because it defies GOD since you're waiting for him to do something about it EDIT and .. SINCE GOD EMPOWERS THE STATE . MSM and BIG TECH maybe you should listen to their advice GET VAXXED etc.. GOD PUT THEM THERE to rule over YOU respect his wishes (Not trying to MOCK.. but that's your logic)
Turn off the clickbait conspiraporn because it defies God since you're waiting on Him to do something...
Subscribing to conspiracy theories and "waiting on God" are not mutually exclusive. God is not only perfectly capable of using ordinary people to accomplish His will, it's His primary way of operating in the world. If, for example, Q is right that there is a group of good guys working together to stop tyrannical governments, and these good guys end up being successful, then that's how God chose to work. (spoiler alert; Q is legit)
This idea of human action being incompatible with relying on God is related to the phenomenon of people being confused when Christians give thanks to God for a successful surgery; instead of, you know, thanking the surgeon. Christians realize that without God the surgeon wouldn't have the intelligence to pursue surgery in the first place. Furthermore, any doctor or surgeon has a hundred stories of patients who were goners for sure... who then "miraculously" recovered. That right there is God using individual people plus a touch of His own power to accomplish what humans alone could not. It's a matter of whether or not you can perceive God working.
God empowers the state... so you should get vaxxed... God put them there to rule over you
Another common misconception. Let's look at what the Bible says:
"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: for he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour." Romans 13:1-7
This is the passage that most people turn to to argue that God says we should always submit to whatever governments tell us to do. Yet this is not what the passage says; note that it defines rulers as those who are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Logically, then, any government that promotes evil and punishes good is not a minister of God and not a legitimate ruler. But let's say this argument doesn't work for you. Even then this doesn't mean I should get vaxxed, because Big Tech, Big Pharma, and MSM are not the government. They're in bed with the government for sure, but they can't make law, they are not legislative bodies, therefore even with current law I don't have to "listen to their advice and get vaxxed". Obeying law and listening to someone's advice are not the same thing.
But let's say that tomorrow Congress passed a law mandating that everyone get vaxxed. I still don't have to obey what they say. Why? Because in America there is a power higher than Congress, the SC, and the President: The Constitution. This document makes it abundantly clear that our current government does not have the authority to do the tenth of what it's doing right now; it's operating well outside it's bounds. Throw in the fact that the current admin rigs and steal elections, and civil disobedience is not only biblical but constitutional as well. And it should go without saying that the Bible is a higher authority than the Constitution as well, so if the government mandated that I do something against God's Word then I have the right and duty as a Christian to refuse.
Also, prophets don’t exist anymore, God stopped using them when Christ came to earth. Apostles likewise weren’t a thing after the early church got established. The only church officers established in the NT are pastors and deacons.
Joel Osteen and people like him can claim the title of pastor as much as they want. Their teachings and actions directly contradict the Bible. Paul himself said that if he himself were to teach any other message than the gospel of Christ, that he should be cast out of the church and accursed.
I agree that there are way too many fake preachers and fake Christians out there, but the solution is to read the Bible say that you know what it says for yourself, then find preachers and churches that faithfully follow the Bible themselves. They're out there, trust me.
The Joel Osteens and the rest of the hair spray evangelicals are easy to spot as frauds.. But what is even more sad is Christians put up with them instead of putting them in their place JUST LIKE THEY DO with the current call to action that YOU PEOPLE INSTEAD ARE STANDING DOWN.. WAITING On GOD who gave you common sense to realize you need to take action that you wont because WAITING ON GOD -- BLess the rape pillage tyrants and let them fistfuck civilization MIND Set.. Muslims don;t even put up with the EVIL Christians allow to proliferate
He does and He will completely obliterate it also but people tend to forget that means a lot of people die and unfortunately many aren't really concerned about their souls so that means hell dude, real non stop hell so it's best to be careful what you're asking. Do not mistake God's patience for inaction.
So, people that take KINETIC action against public corruption are going to hell in your view? Everytime I ask this online I get responses like yours. Non-ANSWERS
No you don't go to hell for violence, you go to hell because of hatred in your heart against God. You are missing the point of what I'm trying to say when I say God's in control and He deals with evil in a way we aren't able so we go to Him to fight the battles. If someone comes up to kill me and my family, be sure I will try to kill them first, as I'm praying for God's help dude, believe that.
Just a friendly reminder that the bible makes it candidly clear that evil principalities are being allowed to rule over the world right now, that things will get extremely bad (WAY worse than they are now), and then a final battle will happen. To each their own discussing how they feel about the plan but that IS the plan per the bible. The plan is NOT that the evil principalities will be stopped by man or God before they take over the world and do a bunch of horrific shit everywhere.
Where does it say that.. Please Dont give me Ephesians 'For we wrestle not' .. I have asked this before on other boards before I got banned from everywhere and the same picture came into focus.. Christianity and Satanism are one.. Jesus is Lucifer , Lucifer is Jesus.. Look at how 'Christians have reacted in here' Hopeless GIVE INTO EVIL wait for GOD..
"Victory contra tyrants" is a good biblical essay of dealing with tyrants:
https://constitution.org/1-Activism/vct/vind.htm
tldr: find a legitimate lesser official who isn't corrupt and rally around them ( using authorized force if necessary ) to take down the big guys.
Judges 4 has what you’re looking for.
In a nutshell, What does Judges4 imply?
Israel had been conquered and oppressed by a foreign king, who had a general named Sisera. A prophet of God told one of the judges of Israel to fight against Sisera. The judge won the battle and Sisera fled, hiding in a random woman’s tent. This random woman pretended to take him in and hide him from the Israelites, the after Sisera fell asleep, she drove a tent stake through his head.
A PROPHET OF GOD .. Well, who are the current 'Propehts of GOD' and what are they advising? Because THINGS ARE NOT GETTING BETTER.. Food availability is direct threat to the point WE NEED TO SEE THIS AS A THREAT requiring KINETIC RESOLVE NOW! .. Who is calling for this?? Nobody..
Prophets of God (the legit ones) only speak from God when God tells them to speak. They don’t speak of their own accord.
God is not pleased when the wicked rule, but He also punishes them and removes them from power on His timetable, not ours.
So in your logic.. What do you suggest the people of America do right now? Because I know the answer and it is why We are taxed, people raped and ripped stripped and ruined. .. So I know what your answer will be.. My advice to you turn off all the clickbait conspiraPorn online because it defies GOD since you're waiting for him to do something about it EDIT and .. SINCE GOD EMPOWERS THE STATE . MSM and BIG TECH maybe you should listen to their advice GET VAXXED etc.. GOD PUT THEM THERE to rule over YOU respect his wishes (Not trying to MOCK.. but that's your logic)
OK, a lot to unpack here.
Subscribing to conspiracy theories and "waiting on God" are not mutually exclusive. God is not only perfectly capable of using ordinary people to accomplish His will, it's His primary way of operating in the world. If, for example, Q is right that there is a group of good guys working together to stop tyrannical governments, and these good guys end up being successful, then that's how God chose to work. (spoiler alert; Q is legit)
This idea of human action being incompatible with relying on God is related to the phenomenon of people being confused when Christians give thanks to God for a successful surgery; instead of, you know, thanking the surgeon. Christians realize that without God the surgeon wouldn't have the intelligence to pursue surgery in the first place. Furthermore, any doctor or surgeon has a hundred stories of patients who were goners for sure... who then "miraculously" recovered. That right there is God using individual people plus a touch of His own power to accomplish what humans alone could not. It's a matter of whether or not you can perceive God working.
Another common misconception. Let's look at what the Bible says:
"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: for he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour." Romans 13:1-7
This is the passage that most people turn to to argue that God says we should always submit to whatever governments tell us to do. Yet this is not what the passage says; note that it defines rulers as those who are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Logically, then, any government that promotes evil and punishes good is not a minister of God and not a legitimate ruler. But let's say this argument doesn't work for you. Even then this doesn't mean I should get vaxxed, because Big Tech, Big Pharma, and MSM are not the government. They're in bed with the government for sure, but they can't make law, they are not legislative bodies, therefore even with current law I don't have to "listen to their advice and get vaxxed". Obeying law and listening to someone's advice are not the same thing.
But let's say that tomorrow Congress passed a law mandating that everyone get vaxxed. I still don't have to obey what they say. Why? Because in America there is a power higher than Congress, the SC, and the President: The Constitution. This document makes it abundantly clear that our current government does not have the authority to do the tenth of what it's doing right now; it's operating well outside it's bounds. Throw in the fact that the current admin rigs and steal elections, and civil disobedience is not only biblical but constitutional as well. And it should go without saying that the Bible is a higher authority than the Constitution as well, so if the government mandated that I do something against God's Word then I have the right and duty as a Christian to refuse.
Also, prophets don’t exist anymore, God stopped using them when Christ came to earth. Apostles likewise weren’t a thing after the early church got established. The only church officers established in the NT are pastors and deacons.
Like Joel Osteen? and after the show is over out comes the cocaine and hookers preachers?? You have no idea how bad it really is
Joel Osteen and people like him can claim the title of pastor as much as they want. Their teachings and actions directly contradict the Bible. Paul himself said that if he himself were to teach any other message than the gospel of Christ, that he should be cast out of the church and accursed.
I agree that there are way too many fake preachers and fake Christians out there, but the solution is to read the Bible say that you know what it says for yourself, then find preachers and churches that faithfully follow the Bible themselves. They're out there, trust me.
The Joel Osteens and the rest of the hair spray evangelicals are easy to spot as frauds.. But what is even more sad is Christians put up with them instead of putting them in their place JUST LIKE THEY DO with the current call to action that YOU PEOPLE INSTEAD ARE STANDING DOWN.. WAITING On GOD who gave you common sense to realize you need to take action that you wont because WAITING ON GOD -- BLess the rape pillage tyrants and let them fistfuck civilization MIND Set.. Muslims don;t even put up with the EVIL Christians allow to proliferate
Dust in the Wind. You are nothing but...Kansas always sucked.
Carry on my wayward son.
Have you found a straight answer? All I can find is GOD hates corruption BUT DO NOTHING
He does and He will completely obliterate it also but people tend to forget that means a lot of people die and unfortunately many aren't really concerned about their souls so that means hell dude, real non stop hell so it's best to be careful what you're asking. Do not mistake God's patience for inaction.
So, people that take KINETIC action against public corruption are going to hell in your view? Everytime I ask this online I get responses like yours. Non-ANSWERS
No you don't go to hell for violence, you go to hell because of hatred in your heart against God. You are missing the point of what I'm trying to say when I say God's in control and He deals with evil in a way we aren't able so we go to Him to fight the battles. If someone comes up to kill me and my family, be sure I will try to kill them first, as I'm praying for God's help dude, believe that.
What is the Bible's SPECIFIC advice on taking action against Public CORRUPTION and Oppressive tyrants?
What did Jesus do?
Can;t seem to get a straight answer from anybody when asked this question