I'm allowed to have personal beliefs man. Its not like I don't have logical arguments for it. Its not like I haven't had experiences that lead me to believing God is real. But demanding "proof" like I can just cite you a paper and prove it just kinda makes you sound like a fedora tipping redditor. I guess I used to be a fedora tipping redditor myself back when I was 20 too.
Closest thing I think I can get to some sort of direct "proof" is this book.
If you'd like to actually have a discussion on why I believe God is real I'm all for that. I don't mind having my beliefs challenged. What doesn't kill me makes me stronger sort of thing.
I'm not looking to debate and I'm not looking to call names. I'm just looking to talk. I'm sorry if I came off that way. I was just trying to explain some of my personal history coming from being an ex-atheist myself, because I've been there before. I'm absolutely not trying to say that I am any better than you.
I'm not necessarily like... "for" or "against" the idea of "god" existing. I've just come to believe that thats how the "world" works from what I've researched and observed. I'm not really sure how to even make the argument. I usually prefer more of a Q n A type of thing where I'd be asked questions and respond to them with how I think things work. "God" is a vast topic because I believe that God is all things, including you and me and the rocks and the trees. I think I might try to list off some things I believe and see if we can go from there.
This is going to be word salad, but what I mean by "God" is that there is some overarching interconnected consciousness / intelligence. I don't believe that "God" is some bearded dude sitting in a chair watching you masturbate. I believe that we are all parts of God experiencing himself in infinite because God is all things. I think that God is all things because I can see reflections of everyones experiences in everyone and everything else. We all experience the same things, only in different circumstances, different amounts.
We humans experience things of a higher order than other entities because we understand more. An animal still feels emotions, its just doesn't really understand them. Its pure experience. There have been experiments on plants that show that they experience emotions as well. If even things without brain can experience emotions, where can we really draw the line with whats "living", whats conscious?
I could say more but I think thats enough for now, I'll see what you have to say to this and see if we can go anywhere from here. Thank you for your talk and making me use my brain for once.
I'm allowed to have personal beliefs man. Its not like I don't have logical arguments for it. Its not like I haven't had experiences that lead me to believing God is real. But demanding "proof" like I can just cite you a paper and prove it just kinda makes you sound like a fedora tipping redditor. I guess I used to be a fedora tipping redditor myself back when I was 20 too.
Closest thing I think I can get to some sort of direct "proof" is this book.
Spiritual Science PDF - https://files.catbox.moe/47j3l4.pdf
Spiritual Science Audiobook - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mwlxr-xcjs
If you'd like to actually have a discussion on why I believe God is real I'm all for that. I don't mind having my beliefs challenged. What doesn't kill me makes me stronger sort of thing.
I'm not looking to debate and I'm not looking to call names. I'm just looking to talk. I'm sorry if I came off that way. I was just trying to explain some of my personal history coming from being an ex-atheist myself, because I've been there before. I'm absolutely not trying to say that I am any better than you.
I'm not necessarily like... "for" or "against" the idea of "god" existing. I've just come to believe that thats how the "world" works from what I've researched and observed. I'm not really sure how to even make the argument. I usually prefer more of a Q n A type of thing where I'd be asked questions and respond to them with how I think things work. "God" is a vast topic because I believe that God is all things, including you and me and the rocks and the trees. I think I might try to list off some things I believe and see if we can go from there.
This is going to be word salad, but what I mean by "God" is that there is some overarching interconnected consciousness / intelligence. I don't believe that "God" is some bearded dude sitting in a chair watching you masturbate. I believe that we are all parts of God experiencing himself in infinite because God is all things. I think that God is all things because I can see reflections of everyones experiences in everyone and everything else. We all experience the same things, only in different circumstances, different amounts.
We humans experience things of a higher order than other entities because we understand more. An animal still feels emotions, its just doesn't really understand them. Its pure experience. There have been experiments on plants that show that they experience emotions as well. If even things without brain can experience emotions, where can we really draw the line with whats "living", whats conscious?
I could say more but I think thats enough for now, I'll see what you have to say to this and see if we can go anywhere from here. Thank you for your talk and making me use my brain for once.