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posted 3 years ago by GynaNumbaZero 3 years ago by GynaNumbaZero +7 / -4
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– CrazyRussian 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

That videos was some bullshit, obviously. You can't make a video of hypersonic rocket with smartphone camera. It will hit target before you will have any clue it is approaching to point a camera to the sky. Even footage of some very advanced surveillance camera that occasioanlly was targeted at trajectory of hypersonic missile will have only few frames with blurry images of rocket, because it is around 3 miles per second and rocket will travel significant distance during camera exposition time. All you will find on that frames will be just a long blurry dash instead of rocket, even from long distance.

I think it will be possible to make a video of arriving hypersonic with one of that high-speed cameras that is used to film the bullets that hit objects. And only if you know beforehand the direction of flight.

US is defensless because US still don't have quick enough and long-range antimissile systems to intercept them. And it seems that even for conventional missiles US antimissile systems suck a lot. Even according to official Ukrainian propaganda, Ukrainian military still using S300 to shot incoming missiles, with some success. I think the case when enemy missile was hit by a new system provided by the West will occupy news for weeks, if not for months, like with every single case when that HIMARS crap was not shot down and somehow reach the target.

US MIC is strange thing. They make enormously overpriced stuff that give a very moderate results. Military equipment is overpriced in any country, but by rate of money spent to usefulness US MIC is definitely occupy the very top without any observable competitors.

Also, it is a mistery, when US MIC just drop very promising projects and return to something conventional. With all that DARPA stuff, mindblowing patents, and unlimited financing, US MIC already have to produce phasers, photon torpedoes and antigravity aerial vehicles, but all we have is just a rumors about some 40yr old TR-3b thing that was never seen in any of numerious US wars abroad and even in domestic army training manoeuvres. 40 years is not enough to finally make weapon army worthly?

Or did US lost all their advanced technologies along with blueprints of Saturn V and Lunar module? Did they stored all valuable secret tech docs in one box and lost it somehow?

Something is definitely wrong with US MIC, so it is not a surpise that it degrades more and more. Switching from producing weaponry to money laundering for their bosses could not end with something good.

Or the quality of all that modern woke engineers who can't decide what gender they are since university and who replaced old-school intolerant racist white engineers in MIC gives expected results.

And/or that's all done with US by TPTB with some purpose.

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– CrazyRussian 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You can have one hypersonic missile with a little payload that may hit a stationary target

Kinzhals, Kh-15, Zircons are all guidable during all trajectory. That was the main goal for their creation. They developed to hit moving targets since the beginning, that was the main idea - to make an insanely fast missile that could make evolutions at that speed and avoid any possible countermeasures. Creating missile body that will sustain hypersonic speeds was not a hardest task. Guiding was the main problem. Principles of controlling supersonic aircraft is very different from those of conventional plane. Same with difference between supersonic and hypersonic flight. You can't just take supersonic guided missile and put more fast engine on it. That will not work.

And about a little payload. Hypersonic is not only payload, it is also a projectile with enormous momentum that will easily penetrate nearly everything. So, you have a destruction from the blast and a penetrative destruction from the projectile itself, that is very useful for sinking large ships.

Or like 10000 conventional missiles... For the same price.

Really, hypersonics are not 10000 more expensive than conventional missile, but OK.

It is proven that conventional missiles could be intercepted, and any large military ship have antimissile system on bosrd. So, while you trying to hit aircraft carrier with tons of conventional missiles, enemy will have enough time to detect the source and rise fighters into the air to destroy it.

So, no, it is not "same thing for same price". Either you spend 1 expensive hypersonic with guaranteed result and you are safe, or you spend 10000 conventional missiles with a possibility that target will hit back.

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