If our transgressions and sins be upon us, and we pine away in them, how should we live?
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“And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.” (Joshua 24:15)
Even speaking as a (and I hate using this term nowadays) Christian...I am not really sure how this has anything to do with conspiracies.
Is this not more Evangelical? Not that I think there is much of a distinction, but, my interactions with Catholics seemed to be less random quotes and screaming at non-believers in the hope that they will convert them through random chance.
Though my experience with both Catholics and Protestants in the West were, universally soul destroying so I may be missing something.
Anyway good point, this has nothing to do with the purpose of this forum and I wish those who supposedly follow the Faith were a bit more considerate of what they are actually doing.
O...ok?
The destructions we see prepared in these conspiracies are the left arm of the Lord lifted against the wicked inhabitants of the earth who will not repent. We're meant to read these verses as a warning to prepare a great sacrifice of our will and our sins for an offering of righteousness unto God and and as an emblem of our love for Him (or face destruction at the day of his judgment) In return God promised to bless us to know his will, He will heal our lives and traumas, and allow us to live after the manner of happiness if accompanied by sacrifice.
Not true. God doesn't produce the effects of evil in people's ives, they do by their actions. And by our actions others suffer. The effects of sin are like the weather we expose ourselves to by where we choose to travel. We become cut off from God and are left to the buffetings of Satan. What other punishment is there for the ignorant heathen that know not his laws and covenants?
What do you guys make of this Silver Jews verse, ive always wondered if its considered true. If not, this will be David Berman's first lie.
Adam was not the first man
though the Bible tells us so
There was one created before him,
whose name we do not know
He also lived in the garden
But he had no mouth or eyes
One day Adam came to kill him
And he died beneath these skies
What is he talking about here? Anyone know?
I love you anyway! If you had a band, you'd be the Horse Shit Jews
You tongue-kiss your momma with that mouth?
If your false god didn't take pleasure in death then why did it make so many animals that have to hunt and kill for food? Seems like he loves death and violence to me.
Because when Adam disobeyed God, death was brought into all of creation.
It's an open question theological whether entropy existed before the fall of man. Death might not have existed for humans, the first fully human ancestors we had at least, but I am with Thomas Aquinas here, that death existed before the fall for plants and animals, and entropy existed for ancient stars, etc. etc.
Bullshit.
If that were true then sin is more powerful than your god if it can change all of creation. LOL
Death is the wage of sin. God himself came down here to earth to us, to die for our sinns, so those with faith could be brought to faith. So death has been defeated, now we wait in patience.
You still haven't explained how Adam eating fruit from a tree caused animals to start hunting and killing.
Do explain!
Adam was given charge over all of creation. Once Adam disobeyed God, that affected all the creation that Adam was put in charge of, which includes the animals. As a reminder, animals has been made for us, not the other way around.
Bullshit.
You're trying to tell me that Adam had magic powers! LOL
High school must be difficult. Try being less you.
The only powers Adam had, is the ones he been given from God himself. The life of someone with faith in the death and resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, is worth a lot more than the life of some animals, to God. So this is the way things had to be. God is right, God always been right, and God will always be right, the sooner you come to this understanding, the better.
"bad stuff happen so no god" is not a very convincing argument.
How about kids with cancer? Thats a pretty good argument against. Unless those kids are karmic pariahs or something, but watch a St. Judes commercial and thst seems really unlikely.
If karma is a real thing, then you can be an asshole to everyone you ever meet, and justify it as you being the agent of bad karma to those you're an asshole too. You could kick a small child and say he deserved it for some shit that the soul did in a previous life.
And if bad stuff happening is an argument for the nonexistence of God, how about good stuff, or is that all random too?
I don't know. That post was in no way a declaration of knowledge in any way, shape, or form. And yes, thats why karma seems shitty. Why do i have to pay for something and i don't know what it is? Seems to easily manipulated. Again, who could say?
Karma is just a way that non-Christians deal with the "problem of evil", which is (admittedly) what theologians will admit is the best argument for the non-existence of God.
Logically, karma a shitty way to respond to the problem of evil, and it's shoehorned into things as a way to also explain aspects of reincarnation.
Im leaning towards that being the way. Reincarnation. It just makes sense.
Reincarnation? One of the issues with it, is that there isn't very much evidence for past lives. That is, when people say that they used to be specific people, or even more generically, that they had a certain profession or lived in a certain place/time, the facts they give are either generalizable such than anyone can look it up and claim such things, or when under hypnosis they claim certain things, those can't be verified.
There is evidence for "inherited memory" but there is also scientific evidence that genetics plays a role here as much as anything else, because they have been able to make the offspring of certain mice afraid of certain things by implanting that strongly enough in the parents such that they pass it on.
It is a convincing argument against the god of the bible, who claims to be all powerful.
It's a solid argument, but not a convincing one.
The fallacy of the argument, though, is the unfounded belief that a biblical God would WANT everything sugary sweet.
First, God would have to end free will in order to end suffering caused by our fellow man. He could have made us like robots, only able to do good.
Secondly, just like suffering towards a goal makes it more meaningful when you achieve it (ask any victorious athlete who trained hard for a victory) suffering turns us towards God. After all, if God was responsible for the creation of the universe, then nothing is possible without his passive or active will.