I see constant, verifiable bits of evidence that disprove each model, yet I see a constant stream of diatribes from each side… sound familiar? Divide and conquer. It's possible that both models are false, completely.
Nobody can deny the fake footage from the ISS, the absolutely fake moon landing, the fake Tesla Roadster in space, the lasers across 20 mile stretches, the zoom ends on boats that should be completely behind the horizon, etc.
And then on the flipside, nobody can deny things like the celestial poles (a post today), the ability to grab a telescope in view another planet, etc.
It's possible we are in a physical simulation of some kind. I think pretending that we know the answer for sure, one way or another, based on bullshit and lies fed to us by the television is just a LARP.
Thoughts?
Debunkers really don't touch why NASA fakes things, do they?
As for the divide and conquer...here's a good quote on historical "flat earth"...
"The myth that people once believed the earth was flat was created by authors such as Draper and Dickson in order to exaggerate the conflict between religion and science." from here
Which is kinda odd, since many of the real scientists were religious back in the day. They still knew that science is limited in many respects as to answering very fundamental questions (like why we exist as you alluded to). But if you can figure out why you exist, you can figure out why everything exists. :)
Why can’t one think that NASA lies AND the Earth is not flat?
Narrative and counter narrative are normally both lies. There are more than two options.
I didn't say one couldn't think that. One can think whatever they want.
I really didn't say anything that warrants that question though. Pretty strange.
And if there is "more than two options", why are you foaming at the mouth to "prove" one?
“Debunkers really don't touch why NASA fakes things, do they?”
Why do they have to? Just because one thinks the flat Earth model is wrong does not mean they think NASA never lies.
“why are you foaming at the mouth to "prove" one?”
When did I ever do that? I never once tried to “prove” one. I simply pointed out that the existence to two celestial poles DISPROVES the flat Earth model. And it does.
So ok, why are you foaming at the mouth to disprove flat earth?
Seems like quite the waste of time.
Nasa, and the entire NWO establishment, fake space in order to hide the nature of our creation and existence. Not all flat earthers agree, and it is speculation since there are many things difficult or impossible to verify, but I think Biblical cosmology seems to be correct. This means we live on a Flat stationary earth with the firmament and heavens above. Some version of this was a common view worldwide until a century ago. Flat earth was taught in many US school until the rockafellers altered our curriculum to build "a nation of workers, not thinkers." In my view the reason they do it is to hide our creator and make atheism plausible. If people knew we lived on a flat domed earth you could no longer find the big bang theory or evolutionary theory possible. Atheists don't want to admit this, but humans are religious no matter what, if you don't believe in God you will find some substitute for it, and I believe this makes populations easier to control. For the religious a spinning ball insignificant earth seriously compromises their faith and understanding of God, and also makes them easier to control. I believe this is ultimately a plot by Satan to pull people away from God and Nasa is full of Satanists and the top, and useful idiots under them.
The thing that is the lynchpin for me (regardless of what the Earth is) is the behavior of occultists.
They have an active interest in the "heavens" precisely because they are prohibited from it.
Many are also UFO enthusiasts (the Reddit community HighStrangeness comes to mind). But why would aliens want to do anything with liars and deceivers?
And that's also why NASA has the fakery. They know they are prohibited access.
One factoid that encompasses this conspiracy is the Denver Airport. Not the murals, the keypad and keystone. Specifically Martin Marietta Aeronautics....pretty silly to out yourself as a Masonic/Satanic organization.
Never noticed before, but the date for the keystone is March 19, 1994. Those digits add up to 33. Big surprise.
I was fascinated by ufos and alien related content, especially since the US military had slowly been admitting to have documented interactions with ufos. I have since come to believe it's all a psyop that not only backs the globe deception, but sets up humanity to be ruled by a one world government in the future. I don't know if they will stage aliens to be enemies or saviors, but either way I think we are being primed for this outcome. Aliens are real in the sense that humans interacted with demonic entities that they simply perceived as sci-fi aliens. Even many in the UFO community believe aliens to be interdementional, which is just a sci-fi way of saying demon. This would explain why these entities would be involved with our lying psychopathic elite, because Satan's forces are trying to decieve humanity.
Have you ever checked out William 'bill' Cooper? He was involved with navy/ufo intel, and predicted 9/11. Before he was murdered for calling out 9/11, he finally said he believed aliens were actually a satanic deception after spending decades falling for it.
One other interesting proof, warner von brauns female assistant went on record saying that he told her many times that the NWO would finally be ushered in by a fake alien invasion. Though the demons and much of the tech will be real.
I have heard Bill Cooper, yes.
And now that I think of it, did you see the post Crouching Emoji, Hidden Demon? Quite excellent, and even got a few others to read it as well.
I bring this up because perhaps you hit upon something very interesting...
So these aliens are actually interdimensional demons.
Well, how do you conjure up a demon? By drawing a decidedly two dimensional sigil.
Perhaps they are interdimensional in the sense that they can enter the 3D world, but not without assistance.
And since they are lower vibration and all, it would make sense that they belong to a lower dimension.