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posted 3 years ago by pkvi 3 years ago by pkvi +40 / -2
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– Filo76 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The voting totals only tell half the story.

The number of registered voters skyrocketed between 2018 and 2020. They artificially inflated registered voters so they could hide the fraudulent 81 million votes easier.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

OP sayng "everyone being basically okay with" is bullshit. More like "most people aren't ready to get the pitchfork and torches because they have families to support." Mass movements are tricky things.

Grow up

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

These guys are doing a lot of work: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/07/election_heroes_are_stopping_fraudulent_votingright_now.html

Is that solution? No, only part of it.

And movements are tricky things, if they weren't, every one would succeed when they mostly fail. If you have special expertise on creating a mass movement that creates social and political change, let's hear it.

As for me, I have more intestinal fortitude and did more good for the world in my time so far than most of humans on this planet, at least as measured on an individual basis, and have the scars to prove it. What have you done?

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You pull your shit back; sit on here and black pill all day long. If you were busier making the change you want, you'd couldn't post more than 2x a day. This place should be merely an outlet for bouncing ideas around, but you use it to vent.

I'm not debating the chart. I agree with you that after the Help America Vote Act and the Motor Voter Act shit has gone all to hell with voting in America.

You're just plain wrong about movements though. Some movement succeed and others fail. There is no magic formula. Some takes decades to see any payoff, some go like wildfire, others wither on the vine. If all it took was money, then Jeb Bush would be president. If all it took was a charismatic figure, then Trump would still be in office. If all it took was a good cause, then every kid with cancer wouldn't have to be on TV begging for donations. If all it took was elite support, then we'd be full steam ahead on carbon credits. If all it took was popular support, then we'd have had marijuana decriminalization a decade ago.

Anyway, what's the first part of your plan?

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– Mad_King_Kalak 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

What were we arguing about? Nothing important really, in the grand scheme of things. God bless.

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– KiloRomeo 1 point 3 years ago +3 / -2

Yeah all I'm beginning to think trump is controlled op so 🤷‍♂️

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– RentFreeCrisisAct 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Well..? We're listening...

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– RentFreeCrisisAct 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Huh?

I don't care about any of that stupid shit.

You said This world is not what you think it is

I said we're listening

Like that.

Fuck every single political twat out there without exception.

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– RentFreeCrisisAct 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Nevermind

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– tearsintherain 0 points 3 years ago +3 / -3

Vote harder

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– RentFreeCrisisAct 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I'll fix this! I'll just vote. Why bother with all of this? They can do everything by the book and change the outcome on the Electoral College level, right? The Electoral College is some bullshit I've yet to see someone explain the need for.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

See this essay by Alexander Hamilton on the topic. It covers most everything, except how it morphed from (theory) "they pick the best" to (practice) "we tell them which to pick" based on state popular vote totals. Everything else still applies.

There's more, but this is the baseline understanding.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed68.asp

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– RentFreeCrisisAct 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

So voting is meaningless. Got it. Had it.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

On an individual level, even if voting was fair, it always was merely an act of civic duty. The chance your one vote would swing an election was less than lightening striking. Given the opportunity costs, it made more "rational" sense to do something else.

However, if you don't vote, given the ability of data analysts to know that, they register you and vote for you. It makes it harder for them to cheat, at this point, if you do vote. Given that, I recommend voting at least in the general election.

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