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"I spent about half an hour today chatting with a high level employee at NYCDOHMH and I'm still kind of processing it, but my main takeaway was that if we let these people continue to call the shots we are going to be dealing with restrictions for a very very very long time." (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by axolotl_peyotl 3 years ago by axolotl_peyotl +21 / -0
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– axolotl_peyotl [S] 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

The thinking is that we don't know the long term effects of covid, so we need to continue protecting people. But won't we not know the long term effects for a very long time? Are we going to continue these restrictions for 20 years? No clear answer to that.

I asked about the cab mask mandate. I was told we need to protect people. I asked until when? Forever? No answer. I asked point blank, People think it's forever. Is it forever? No answer.

This person was desperate for the under-5 vaccine, & was happy toddlers continued to be masked. Don't you know dozens of vaccinated people who got covid, I asked. She did. So why are you so desperate for this vaccine? She told me the vaccine reduces chances of long covid. What?

But the pediatric vaccine efficacy was so low, I said. I told her that there were 0 hospitalizations in the control arm of the ped vaccine trials. She didn't know that. Wtf. This person works in public health and didn't know the ped vaccine reduced deaths from 0 to 0?

There is a continued sense of aggrievement, that we'd be in a different & better place if we had all acted properly. If we had focused on getting comfortable masks and normalized masking. According to her, wearing a mask wasn't a big deal, why couldn't more people do it?

This was actually shocking to me. We live in NYC. Everyone wore masks everywhere, even outdoors, for a year!! And now no one does, because masks suck. But according to PH, if we had just done a little better at "normalizing" masks, we'd all still be voluntarily wearing them.

But that wasn't even the most shocking part. This person was telling me, over and over again, that it was so interesting talking to me because she hadn't met a single other person with my views. She admitted she was in an echo chamber. This is a huge problem.

People in PH still think they are doing god's work, protecting people who are too dumb to make their own decisions, & if we had all just acted a little better the pandemic would be over. And they think that everyone agrees with them. It is completely divorced from reality.

And after I typed this out I read this amazing article by @VPrasadMDMPH, in which he makes the point I'm making but way more eloquently. It's normal people vs experts and the experts are really screwing this up.

Memorial Day Travel: Experts vs. Americans

Americans are Rational & Experts Embarrass Themselves with Irrational Advice

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– Mrexreturns 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

It's shocking really.

You know what?

This is a communist revolution. Sane people should not treat this as a pandemic but something similar to the Cultural Revolution of Communist China or the Khmer Rouge.

In both cases, it marked the indignant end of those civilizations after respectively a DECADE or 4 years. And they ended because they got a RUDE AWAKENING. And even as they end, the nations they are in are already broken to the point that they will stay like this for the rest of the world's history.

The Chinese will forever be marked as bug men, and Cambodia is forever a country resembling those of Mad Max.

We're all next. Everyone needs to understand what is happening before the elite breaks them to the point that we all head into becoming just like them.

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– Junionthepipeline 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

New york city dept of medical/mental health most likley. I guess they are still playing pandemic

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– Mrexreturns 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Like Hong Kong and China still are. You still have to mask in Japan.

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