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tylersfarley [S] 13 points ago +13 / -0

The original narrative is falling apart. If police were already chasing this guy, why did they wait an hour after he entered a school with a gun. All after killing his grandmother, which the police knew about.

Something is starting to seem very suspicious here. Seems like someone ordered the police to not go inside that school and stop the shooter.

NotLikeThis 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'd like to think no order would have prevented me from entering that school.

IGOexiled 0 points ago +1 / -1

An alternate way that the same situation doesn't add up is that two AR's and 400 bullets for an hour results in 20 dead?

What of the other 350+ bullets, the remaining 59 minutes and 40 seconds in the school where he's not shooting?

I guess kids are tiny so he missed a lot...

Hardtruths420 -6 points ago +4 / -10

There could be shenanigans.. but in all likelihood.. it's not a larger conspiracy like you're implying. Also... these situations tend to be fluid and people will report on whatever information they have at the moment... so it'd be a bit strange if the original narrative was correct in the first place...

I would think it'd be more suspect if they already know exactly what happened, in detail... when it was a chaotic shooting situation that no one anticipated.

If this was an op, it probably involved an MK victim (shooter) with the right genetic profile and drugs in their system, some type of brainwashing, and maybe a therapist or some key individual assigned to the shooter.

I don't see why you would include anyone in that type of operation other than what is absolutely necessary.

Do you know how hard it would be to stop someone from whistleblowing on that kind of an operation (one that involves dead children)... if it involved handfuls of people from the local police department, school, etc? There's no way you would risk that if you didn't need those parties involved (why would you?).

The simple explanation is that cops assigned to elementary school's are actually mostly pussies and not prepared for a real firefight with a madman that wants to kill them. That's much more likely than assuming that all of these cops were somehow in on the plan.

If this was an operation, it would have been a lightweight MKultra style brainwashing plan (or something with a single asset), not something elaborate involving a lot of people.

beardmin 9 points ago +9 / -0

LEO is hierarchical. The agent in charge at the scene can have bad info, that bad info could come from the glowing party. There, now it doesn’t need a large group of conspirators.

Bad info could be “no, hold back, we are told there’s a bomb at each entrance and that a special agent is already inside.” ...

Hardtruths420 -2 points ago +2 / -4

That's possible. If someone was in on it, it could have been whoever was in charge--maybe the chief. But again, I don't think you can rule out incompetency and fear. Without real training or field experience, most people would have hesitated to run in that building. People like to talk a tough game, but self-preservation instincts are very much real.

If the chief was involved, it'd be more likely that this would be a blackmailed individual following orders without even knowing what kind of an operation they are apart of.

Personally, I think this is coming from some type of sophisticated MKultra compartmentalized program being run off the books. If you were running such a program and genuinely thought disarmament was a worthwhile goal, you could probably find a way to justify killing such a small number of people for propaganda purposes, when the alternative would be a forceful disarmament of the population, which would certainly have mass casualties. Our government starts wars on false premises, knowing hundreds of thousands of innocents will die. So I don't think any of it is a stretch.

American culture and media has been exported all over the world, to other places that have guns. And yet the school shooting contagion only seems to happen within our borders... (despite international coverage).

That what makes me a little suspicious.

beardmin 4 points ago +4 / -0

I agree with the incompetence part.

About chief (or whoever was calling the shots): Zoom out. I’m saying the disinfo could even infect him. He has people in his ear all the time from various orgs, that he believes.

MKultra scenario can still be true with law enforcement still confused by the fog. Think we are in agreement.

Wish I could upvote your but... still a handshake. Idk how that works.

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KiloRomeo 7 points ago +7 / -0

Also let's talk about that BAMF tactical border agent that went in and got it done

GynaNumbaZero 4 points ago +5 / -1

That's also bizzaro, and on my mind.

Got shot, walked out, later died(?). Okay I think I read that, but it doesn't seem like he died anymore (?)

krypt_o 5 points ago +5 / -0

No point in arming/supplying the police for para-military operations if they're not going to do anything when the time matters.

Should start pushing to de-militarize the police because of this. Spend that money on fortifying schools, instead.

IGOexiled 3 points ago +4 / -1

All policing should be local and private. Same of courts.

NotLikeThis 3 points ago +3 / -0

I also saw and interview with the dudes grandfather. Claims Gmom is in hospital for surgery and expected to survive.


Hard to tell what's real.

Koolzero 3 points ago +3 / -0

Someone posted this on 4chan: “just learned the shooter was taken down by an off duty border patrol officer who was practicing with an fn fal at a range close to the school”

Ohdeerlordman 4 points ago +4 / -0

Imagination makes that play like a glow op. Local cops are scared of the rifleman, have no orders to enter the school and hold position. Fed is close by to tie up loose ends and be hailed as a Tibbets hero. Tale as old as time.

DavidColeIntrepid 2 points ago +2 / -0

A reality that's hard to face for many

Pics or it didn't happen

1andrac3 2 points ago +2 / -0

i thought it was off that a border unit was nearby at the time of the shooting? anyone else thing that's strange too