I couldn’t put my finger on why I always wake up to a mountain of notifications, but rarely get many through the daytime hours. Started checking against timezones and — perhaps unsurprisingly — most of the responses I receive either shitting on the U.S. military or Ukraine come during the prime hours of GMT+2 to GMT+4 (i.e., eastern Russian / Moscow time).
I guess it kind of makes sense. Someone literally started writing Russian in response to me yesterday, lol.
No one here gives a fuck, ShillFromReddit
Oh hi Graph, nice to see you’re still floating around here too. We should really make a list of the OGs so we can identify each other once the Russian shills fully flood this place.
You and magapede are eminently identifiable
I miss magapede.
The seethe he extracted from trumptards was very rare around these parts.
He’s still here...
I haven’t seen him around for a few months.
AYO MAGAPEDE
SHOUT ME A HOLLA DUNNY
SLIDE INTO THEM DMS WITH YA NEW IDENTITY
HIT ME UP SLIME
That’s my goal ;)
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So why is that an issue? Are Russians not allowed to post here? I thought they were allies and that Oceana was our enemy. Oh wait...it’s Eurasia this time, isn’t it?
I was just pointing out that they’re out here shilling their narrative.
I don’t really think it’s an issue. This .win is dead and has long lost any ability to recover anyways. I’m more or less just yelling into the void.
Well if we're being thorough, I also notice a good chunk of the pro-Ukraine posts are made either by handshakes fresh off Reddit, or sleeper bots with several months of inactivity that suddenly got chatty in the past six weeks. Curious trend, isn't it?
Not really. Axo usually just bans anyone that disagrees with the narrative he is trying to push. Hence, you don’t really see many active users around here that cut against the prevailing grain. Most of it either tends to be lurkers or new accounts that are probably just alts of banned lurkers.
I've seen several accounts with well over a month of consistent and explicit "Russia bad" posts, so unless this mass banning has happened in just the past week, the claim doesn't seem to hold water.
And in general, the trend I'm noticing is that this sub is skeptical of the legacy media more than anything else, and since the media right now is fervently anti-Russian, this skepticism is seen as pro-Russian as a result. Though it's not just this sub, or even just this site - in just about every social network I've stumbled upon, skepticism of the mainstream narrative is reflexively taken as a pro-Russian stance. I some, I've actually seen a dozen "slava Ukraini" posts back to back, followed by complaints about Russian propaganda. So again, if that's the current standard for unbiased editorial policy, it's only natural that anything else would seem pro-Russian in comparison.
Aside from mine, I have not seen anyone else with any sort of month-long "Russia bad" streak. I welcome any tags you have though, I may have missed them since I kind of just lurk on here and only become active once every few months. Bans occur fairly frequently on here, especially in light of how low the userbase is.
I agree that this .win is skeptical of legacy media. Frankly, I agree with that view. To that end, I totally agree that MSM is largely pro-Ukraine and exhibits a bias.
That all said, a bias alone does not mean they're wrong. There are definitely some arguments against foreign over-involvement in the Russo-Ukrainian conflict. The issue is, they aren't made here. The only arguments I see getting made are flat out "Russia is innocent and was totally justified in doing this, I blame the U.S." Likewise, even if you cite sources for people on here, you will just be met with another round of getting called a shill, Jew, racial slur, or really anything that doesn't address the point you raise.
There are good arguments to be made, and good discussion to have. Unfortunately, this site is administered in a way that is certain to make that never happen.
Thank you for providing the link to the ban logs - I wasn't aware the sub had them. And in turn I have to admit, I do see a couple of accounts there that were vocally anti-Russian - but also rather aggressive and uncivil about it - before getting the boot just last week... as well as a couple of general purpose assholes that really should've just stayed in ConPro. So overall, I think in both cases they were booted for assholery rather than political reasons.
As for arguments, the spectrum here is fairly wide, even among the Russian posters I've talked with. My own stance, especially in light of some recent events, is that the conflict is an engineered prelude to a global economic restructuring, while also serving as a weapons dump for obsolete hardware - with both sides taking advantage of it. That said, there most likely are numerous casualties on the front lines, since not everyone has gotten the memo, but overall, it's a media spectacle more than anything else. And it might be for the best, if a couple of other event chains I'm monitoring turn out the way I suspect.
There's quite a few countries in Europe who would be awake during USA late night time. Also many have plenty of fluent English speakers. Ironically, the places in Europe with fewer English speakers would be eastern Europe and Russia - it's generally not a big concern to learn English beyond Germany/Poland in continental Europe. That excludes Scandinavia, who all have excellent English, and who would also be wide awake while Americans are in bed.
How many of those countries have a vested interest in altering American political discourse online though? Not Poland or Scandinavian countries. Maybe Germany for the lulz. The Russian shill farms in St. Petersburg are a fact. We know the Russians fuck with America. To what degree is open for debate.
Agreed.
That said, most other European countries do not have known troll/bot networks that are dedicated exclusively to shilling online forums. Not to mention, it would be a little weird for Western Europeans, who have historically one of the highest disapproval rates for Russia globally and fairly widespread support for Ukraine, to be making pro-Russia / anti-Ukraine comments.
Say what you will, but I think pro-Russia / anti-Ukraine content appearing predominately during Russian prime hours is a bit more than a coincidence, lol.
You're right and don't let them tell you otherwise.
I know corporis likes to do a 1am PST dump of 6 or 7 posts with nothing but partisan/pro russia posts almost every night. They do seem to be changing their tactics since more people here are catching on and calling them out.