"everyone successful is some kind of swindler" deal.
That was not the case even few decades ago. Jobs and Wozniak become successful really creating something useful. Jobs later become one of that swindlers, and even contrived to betray Wozniak, but that was already after they become successful. That thing completely eliminated today. It could be another rabbit hole, but it is really nearly impossible to become successful nowdays. You could earn for living that way, even get some decent money selling your business to some corporation, but you will not be allowed to become something like Apple. As soon as you will rise to some level, you will be given a proposal you could not decline or will have to swindle like others.
Asians may not be the most imaginative bunch, but they at least know to value technical education, particularly compared to the omnipresent image of the lame nerd in western pop-culture.
True, but that pop-culture is made by whom?
Respectively, the same can be said of how white American culture nowadays idolizes ultra-macho gun-wielding rednecks
So the culture is the key.
Russian idolization of oligarchs and the "gopnik" culture adopted by lower class teens.
It is a cultural, yes. We still have a lot of that kind shit on TV as series and movies.
Overall, if white people have been fed a poison pill, it was a pill they still took on their own.
Yes, that is the point. And if you try to take away that poison, they resist. IDK if there is a way out from that pit.
Question for the ages. In recent history, the most notable cases of culturally dead-end nations turning around, are in Asia - with Japan, China and India leading the charge, and Turkey and now Iran following suit. I mean, before the US-led post-WWII reformations, the Japanese workforce had a reputation for laziness and poor quality - and now look at them go. The same is apparently happening right now in China, with regard to their manufactured goods. And of course, there's the phenomenon of how every other tech tutorial online is made by an Indian. So at least we know the turnaround is possible in theory. The next step would be to see what cultural and socio-economic cornerstones exist in these countries, that can be emulated elsewhere.
If only it is not one a shot thing. Say, you could become great if you initially was lazy, but something forced you to take yourself in hands, but is it possible when you already was great in something, but somehow lost that ablity.
Also there is that thing with reward for your labour. If you work hard all the time and as soon as you get a decent reward that reward is depreciated, you inevitably lose the motivation to repeat that senseless thing again. Same is with civilisation - when it work hard for a century and in the end rewarded with "140 characters in twitter instead of flying cars" and just another stupid generation of smartphones instead of personal termonuclear reactors and spending vacations cruising over Solar system planets, despite all techonlogy necessary is created, when somebody else still decide that you will get smartphone instead of flying cars, then there is no much reason to continue. What is the point to invent and develop, if somebody else eventually will not allow you to use that as you want, will license, limit or even prohibit nearly everything you do?
That was not the case even few decades ago. Jobs and Wozniak become successful really creating something useful. Jobs later become one of that swindlers, and even contrived to betray Wozniak, but that was already after they become successful. That thing completely eliminated today. It could be another rabbit hole, but it is really nearly impossible to become successful nowdays. You could earn for living that way, even get some decent money selling your business to some corporation, but you will not be allowed to become something like Apple. As soon as you will rise to some level, you will be given a proposal you could not decline or will have to swindle like others.
True, but that pop-culture is made by whom?
So the culture is the key.
It is a cultural, yes. We still have a lot of that kind shit on TV as series and movies.
Yes, that is the point. And if you try to take away that poison, they resist. IDK if there is a way out from that pit.
Question for the ages. In recent history, the most notable cases of culturally dead-end nations turning around, are in Asia - with Japan, China and India leading the charge, and Turkey and now Iran following suit. I mean, before the US-led post-WWII reformations, the Japanese workforce had a reputation for laziness and poor quality - and now look at them go. The same is apparently happening right now in China, with regard to their manufactured goods. And of course, there's the phenomenon of how every other tech tutorial online is made by an Indian. So at least we know the turnaround is possible in theory. The next step would be to see what cultural and socio-economic cornerstones exist in these countries, that can be emulated elsewhere.
If only it is not one a shot thing. Say, you could become great if you initially was lazy, but something forced you to take yourself in hands, but is it possible when you already was great in something, but somehow lost that ablity.
Also there is that thing with reward for your labour. If you work hard all the time and as soon as you get a decent reward that reward is depreciated, you inevitably lose the motivation to repeat that senseless thing again. Same is with civilisation - when it work hard for a century and in the end rewarded with "140 characters in twitter instead of flying cars" and just another stupid generation of smartphones instead of personal termonuclear reactors and spending vacations cruising over Solar system planets, despite all techonlogy necessary is created, when somebody else still decide that you will get smartphone instead of flying cars, then there is no much reason to continue. What is the point to invent and develop, if somebody else eventually will not allow you to use that as you want, will license, limit or even prohibit nearly everything you do?